Topic: Smug liberal moralisers
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TawtStrat

Sun 04/20/14 07:31 AM

What do you think about people that go on about their moral values and things that other people do that they consider to be bad when they add some lame disclaimer such as, "Only He can judge", or "I'm only talking about my personal feelings and not actually having a go at anyone else"?
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red6mist

Sun 04/20/14 08:33 AM

Americans do this the most I find. I guess they haven't got the guts to just come right out and say what they want to say.
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red6mist

Sun 04/20/14 08:51 AM

I'm terrible aren't I.
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kc0003

Sun 04/20/14 11:33 AM


Americans do this the most I find. I guess they haven't got the guts to just come right out and say what they want to say.


it's pussification of america, we have been force fed this idea of political correctness. one cannot offend others by speaking the truth or offering an opinion that may or may not be popular. god forbid anyone should have their feelings hurt or even worse, be made to feel like they are not in with the cool crowd.

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new2area2012

Sun 04/20/14 11:35 AM



Americans do this the most I find. I guess they haven't got the guts to just come right out and say what they want to say.


it's pussification of america, we have been force fed this idea of political correctness. one cannot offend others by speaking the truth or offering an opinion that may or may not be popular. god forbid anyone should have their feelings hurt or even worse, be made to feel like they are not in with the cool crowd.




Well said... :angel:
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Dodo_David

Sun 04/20/14 03:10 PM




Americans do this the most I find. I guess they haven't got the guts to just come right out and say what they want to say.


it's pussification of america, we have been force fed this idea of political correctness. one cannot offend others by speaking the truth or offering an opinion that may or may not be popular. god forbid anyone should have their feelings hurt or even worse, be made to feel like they are not in with the cool crowd.




Well said... :angel:


I agree. Even on this site it isn't unusual for a person to be put down for expressing a minority opinion.
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soufiehere

Sun 04/20/14 03:14 PM


What do you think about people that go on about their moral values and things that other people do that they consider to be bad when they add some lame disclaimer such as, "Only He can judge", or "I'm only talking about my personal feelings and not actually having a go at anyone else"?

And this has what to do with being a 'liberal'?
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kc0003

Sun 04/20/14 03:16 PM



What do you think about people that go on about their moral values and things that other people do that they consider to be bad when they add some lame disclaimer such as, "Only He can judge", or "I'm only talking about my personal feelings and not actually having a go at anyone else"?

And this has what to do with being a 'liberal'?

i'm not sure either...
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Dodo_David

Sun 04/20/14 03:18 PM



What do you think about people that go on about their moral values and things that other people do that they consider to be bad when they add some lame disclaimer such as, "Only He can judge", or "I'm only talking about my personal feelings and not actually having a go at anyone else"?

And this has what to do with being a 'liberal'?


It doesn't have anything to do with being either liberal or conservative.
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FearandLoathing

Sun 04/20/14 03:18 PM



Americans do this the most I find. I guess they haven't got the guts to just come right out and say what they want to say.


it's pussification of america, we have been force fed this idea of political correctness. one cannot offend others by speaking the truth or offering an opinion that may or may not be popular. god forbid anyone should have their feelings hurt or even worse, be made to feel like they are not in with the cool crowd.




Created by voting hysteria in the 80's to 90's...Like a lot of the problems we suffer from now.

My question is that does a question like this make you better than them? Or equal?
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Dodo_David

Sun 04/20/14 04:42 PM


Americans do this the most I find. I guess they haven't got the guts to just come right out and say what they want to say.


If you say so, Inspector Clouseau.
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TawtStrat

Sun 04/20/14 06:46 PM

What it has to do with being a liberal is that liberalism is the doctrine that there is no single "conception of the good". If you hold that society should be a liberal society you are prioritising liberal values over all of the other values.
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sweetestgirl11

Sun 04/20/14 07:07 PM


What do you think about people that go on about their moral values and things that other people do that they consider to be bad when they add some lame disclaimer such as, "Only He can judge", or "I'm only talking about my personal feelings and not actually having a go at anyone else"?


I think people who have values that differ from your own have the right to state that and deserve the same kind of tolerance that one hopes they would have for others. It is the one who is being intolerant that looks bad regardless of which side of the fence they sit on morality-wise.

I think it is nice that people draw a distinction between their opinion and that they do not mean things as a personal attack (" having a go at anyone else)"
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TawtStrat

Sun 04/20/14 08:51 PM



What do you think about people that go on about their moral values and things that other people do that they consider to be bad when they add some lame disclaimer such as, "Only He can judge", or "I'm only talking about my personal feelings and not actually having a go at anyone else"?


I think people who have values that differ from your own have the right to state that and deserve the same kind of tolerance that one hopes they would have for others. It is the one who is being intolerant that looks bad regardless of which side of the fence they sit on morality-wise.

I think it is nice that people draw a distinction between their opinion and that they do not mean things as a personal attack (" having a go at anyone else)"


Kind of BS though. "I hate racism, sexism, homophobia, etc but my saying so in no way is a personal attack against anyone".

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AthenaRose2

Mon 04/21/14 01:14 AM



Americans do this the most I find. I guess they haven't got the guts to just come right out and say what they want to say.


it's pussification of america, we have been force fed this idea of political correctness. one cannot offend others by speaking the truth or offering an opinion that may or may not be popular. god forbid anyone should have their feelings hurt or even worse, be made to feel like they are not in with the cool crowd.


what The cool crowd hurts people's feelings and makes them feel alienated?

How cool is that? huh

Just asking...
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Conrad_73

Mon 04/21/14 01:30 AM

One must never fail to pronounce moral judgment.

Nothing can corrupt and disintegrate a culture or a man's character as thoroughly as does the precept of moral agnosticism, the idea that one must never pass moral judgment on others, that one must be morally tolerant of anything, that the good consists of never distinguishing good from evil.

It is obvious who profits and who loses by such a precept. It is not justice or equal treatment that you grant to men when you abstain equally from praising men's virtues and from condemning men's vices. When your impartial attitude declares, in effect, that neither the good nor the evil may expect anything from you,whom do you betray and whom do you encourage?

But to pronounce moral judgment is an enormous responsibility. To be a judge, one must possess an unimpeachable character; one need not be omniscient or infallible, and it is not an issue of errors of knowledge; one needs an unbreached integrity, that is, the absence of any indulgence in conscious, willful evil. Just as a judge in a court of law may err, when the evidence is inconclusive, but may not evade the evidence available, nor accept bribes, nor allow any personal feeling, emotion, desire or fear to obstruct his mind's judgment of the facts of reality,so every rational person must maintain an equally strict and solemn integrity in the courtroom within his own mind, where the responsibility is more awesome than in a public tribunal, because he, the judge, is the only one to know when he has been impeached.
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The man who refuses to judge, who neither agrees nor disagrees, who declares that there are no absolutes and believes that he escapes responsibility, is the man responsible for all the blood that is now spilled in the world. Reality is an absolute, existence is an absolute, a speck of dust is an absolute and so is a human life . . .

There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil. The man who is wrong still retains some respect for truth, if only by accepting the responsibility of choice. But the man in the middle is the knave who blanks out the truth in order to pretend that no choice or values exist.


Galt's Speech,
For the New Intellectual,

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/moral_judgment.html

Nothing to do with Liberals or Conservatives,but everything with an Individual's Moral Rectitude!
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 04/21/14 01:32 AM