Yes, but that's about men ...

I don't think nice girls finish last per say. Depends on what you understand to be 'nice' and 'finishing'...
I sometimes feel that, what I understand to be nice girls, end up in a relationship sooner.

Difficult question, it's not black and white. I don't even know what I am myself. Part of me is a nice girl but I do come with a rather erm .. naughty side, and that is quite a substantial part of me. Biggest problem I experience in finding love is that I don't want a 100% nice man nor a 100% 'bad' man.

This issue about nice guys has been around before. What i was thinking is...do you think nice girls finish last as well?

A lifetime of being nice has only brought me disappoinments and
frustration - I think there is something to that 'finishing last'
idea.

But you can't change things - I have tried and can't change myself
so - have to suck it up.

Nice guys simply lack the balls to go for what they want. However, a man who has kindness, humor, can and will get pissed and just deal, can forgive and ask for forgiveness, can embrace his own sexual nature and not feel taboo.......that kind of guy will get the girl he wants.......or the girl that surprises him will snag him. So phuck nice guys.

Have merci sir!..haven't nice guys taken it dry long enough?



Yes your right!:

Infamous qoute,

"Azzholeism is not a destination
but a life time Journey"

~Pony~

Yes woman like a chip or an edge.
but you have to WANT to do it for you.

Imfamous quote:

"Whyever would one give woman hand
when you were gifted two"

~Pony~

would you really want to be with someone who expects you to change?

tried to change to be 'harder' for my own sake, Sweetest

I think the whole idea that "nice guys/girls finish last" and everything associated with it is a bit more complicated than usually gets mentioned in a forum like this.

The most common observation, is that the word "nice" has a negative connotation to it, especially relative to males. It's very common for manipulative, petty, selfish, emotionally stunted males to declare themselves to be "nice," because they follow a series of calculated steps which they imagine will force their target woman to like them. They are often seen to wail or rant to the effect that they "did everything right" but got dumped anyway. They want to treat the world like a giant vending machine.

In short, they aren't nice at all, they just lie and say that they are.

The mess that's mentioned rarely if at all, is that the saying "nice guys finish last" is most commonly used as an excuse for rapacious people to act in an entirely selfish and callous manner, and blame their thoughtlessness and even cruelty on society at large. It is favored by cheaters, thieves, liars, scammers, and anyone else who wants to ignore the concept of honor.

Male or female.....its all about balance.....
Bit of nice.....bit of bad.....
Bit of kind.....bit of tough.....
Bit of gentle.....bit of rough.....
Bit of good.....bit of naughty
Bit of leading.....bit of following.....

Meeting in the middle for a happy relationship.....

congratulations for your new little ones!