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SassyEuro2

Sat 03/12/16 12:25 PM

just like some trump supporters beating the crap out of an immigrant doesn't mean that trumps campaign endorses such behavior, he would actually have to say he was cool with it(Which he did) ,,,but that's another topic

Hhhaaaa... Also a lie.

Are you talking about the guy from Mexico who works for TELEMUNDO.. laugh

who recused to leave & wouldn't stop screaming & security thru him out.?

Or he BIG fat black man from BLM, who was also screaming & refused to leave & security had to knock him down & then throw him out.?

I watched ALL the footage from all angles and his fake laying on the floor, asthma attack.

Geez..you much really be scared.

And it is another attempt to spin to & continue hijacking the thread the OP's thread because you don't like the topic !

msharmony

Sat 03/12/16 12:29 PM

no, I am clear on what I am talking about

those who didn't come to stroke his ego who were verbal enough for other ATTENDEES to resort to mob violence which Trump had no issue with and condoned

those who are in dire straights on the streets being brutalized by trump supports and Trump praising their passion

IM talking about Trump saying he will legally represent someone if they 'hurt someone'

I'm talking about Trump declaring he could SHOOT Someone and have the supporters not bat an eye

lol

Trump doesn't invite violence,,,

hysterical laugh

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

Edited by msharmony on Sat 03/12/16 12:31 PM

SassyEuro2

Sat 03/12/16 12:38 PM

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

We went through all this.
We posted links to you & quotes & video. YOU were proven WRONG.
Trump never said that.
.
Repeating yourself doesn't make it true & will not turn people away from him... ALL the drama makes him more popular & powerful.

Self defeating much ?

Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sat 03/12/16 01:03 PM

Conrad_73

Sat 03/12/16 12:43 PM

well,well,well,guess who?
Terrorist Bill Ayers at the Trump-Ralley!

http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/03/uh-oh-look-which-obama-buddy-we-spotted-at-last-nights-chicago-trump-protest/

Swine got nerve!

http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/03/breaking-thousands-riot-in-chicago-over-trump-rally/

The real estate mogul himself on Thursday night said he doesn’t “condone” the violent behavior at his campaign events.

Folks, this is getting out of hand. Whatever your personal opinions on Donald Trump may be — clearly, Americans are polarized on this — you’ve got to hand it to Trump for coming out and declaring he doesn’t condone this violence. That’s more than our current president has done in addressing the likes of Black Lives Matter. In fact, one can’t deny the president’s role in getting our country to this current level of division and polarization

msharmony

Sun 03/13/16 08:56 AM

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

actually you didn't, but keep believing the ridiculous....

and I know nothing I say will turn his more extreme and ridiculous supporters away,, certainly not,, even he knows,, he could commit MURDER and they would still rationalize and defend

Conrad_73

Sun 03/13/16 08:59 AM

BLM ought to be proud being financed by a felonious White Nazicollaborator! laugh

metalwing

Sun 03/13/16 09:03 AM

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

The facts are that BLM, MoveOn.org, and Berners are showing up at Trump rallies for the sole purpose of denying free speech and to cause trouble. They need their azzes kicked.

msharmony

Sun 03/13/16 09:07 AM

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

The facts are that BLM, MoveOn.org, and Berners are showing up at Trump rallies for the sole purpose of denying free speech and to cause trouble. They need their azzes kicked.

rhetoric

how does a citizen deny free speech exactly?

using free speech doesn't 'deny' anyone else the ability to do the same

but lets throw logic out the window, and cling to the sensational rhetoric

yes, lets get violent,, THATS The trump supporter way,, cause he doesn't incite people to BE VIOLENT

laugh

Edited by msharmony on Sun 03/13/16 09:09 AM

metalwing

Sun 03/13/16 09:15 AM

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

The facts are that BLM, MoveOn.org, and Berners are showing up at Trump rallies for the sole purpose of denying free speech and to cause trouble. They need their azzes kicked.

Perhaps you don't watch the news but groups, all over the nation, have been showing up at Republician rallies and even some Democratic rallies and shouting down or even taking over the podium for the express purpose of denying the speaker the ability to express the view which was the purpose of having the rally in the first place. This is denying free speech and it is abhorrent. Liberals have been using this technique for quite a while to silence the opposition.

Your position on this matter is either ignorant or vile.

Conrad_73

Sun 03/13/16 09:15 AM

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261912/black-lives-matter-banning-racial-segregation-daniel-greenfield

Robxbox73

Sun 03/13/16 09:24 AM

hard to read past the first blatant and biased lie

"Black Lives Matter, a group which openly supports violence to attain its goals of socialism, cheers the shutdown. "

there are people who support blm and post on social media, hats not representative of the whole group, and cheering a shutdown isn't the same as advocating for violence

and this:
"Black Lives Matter is an organization of intimidation. It openly advocates violence to achieve its ends. That’s not true of Donald Trump"

seriously?

When a protester interrupted his speech at a rally in Michigan, he encouraged his audience members to force the protester out.“Get him out,” Mr. Trump said, CBS reported. “Try not to hurt him. If you do, I’ll defend you in court.”

a black man, reportedly started chanting Black Lives Matter at a rally in Birmingham, Alabama on Saturday. In a video captured by CNN reporter Jeremy Diamond, rally attendees swarm around the man, kicking and punching him as he curls up on the ground. Trump was asked to weigh in on his supporters’ actions on Fox & Friends Sunday morning. “Maybe he should have been roughed up,” he said. “It was disgusting what he was doing.”

Two men in Boston said they ambushed and brutally beat a homeless Latino man because they were “inspired” by Trump, who later explained his supporters “are very passionate” and “love this country.”

he doesn't advocate for violence though huh?

jeesh, what are people smoking?

we are talking about violent BLM,organized Violence,not some disconnected Kooks!
Spin it all you want,doesn't change the Facts!

Oh man its been spinning for a while... I don't think we're in a democratic nation any more Toto!

msharmony

Sun 03/13/16 09:28 AM

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

The facts are that BLM, MoveOn.org, and Berners are showing up at Trump rallies for the sole purpose of denying free speech and to cause trouble. They need their azzes kicked.

shouting down the podium?

wth does that even mean?

there are hundreds of people, supporters shouting out, but somehow, those who aren't supporters shouting prevents the speaker at the podium from carrying on?

smh

denying free speech would be jumping up there and putting a muzzle on him

if he can carry on speaking, as he does , for instance , when someone yells out derogatory names for a fellow candidate, or praise for him,,,,,,his speech is in no way 'denied'

Conrad_73

Sun 03/13/16 09:42 AM

BLM was created to further the elitist, socialist-fascist aims of George Soros and his minions. Their members have been hoodwinked into thinking that they are doing something about the sometimes true, and mostly fictitious racism of society in general, and the police in particular.via FB

metalwing

Sun 03/13/16 09:48 AM

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

The facts are that BLM, MoveOn.org, and Berners are showing up at Trump rallies for the sole purpose of denying free speech and to cause trouble. They need their azzes kicked.

As I said, maybe you should watch the news ...

If you disrupt a speech, it is speech denied.
If you shout down a speech, it is speech denied.
If you cause enough turmoil so that a speech gets canceled, it is speech denied.

MLK had his speech denied. One would think you could understand that.

msharmony

Sun 03/13/16 09:50 AM

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

The facts are that BLM, MoveOn.org, and Berners are showing up at Trump rallies for the sole purpose of denying free speech and to cause trouble. They need their azzes kicked.

its neither

your understanding of 'free speech' , well,,,,, laugh

msharmony

Sun 03/13/16 09:55 AM

I am scared too, of americans who are crazy enough to rationalize every vile act against 'others', while claiming its the 'others' who are a threat

laugh

The facts are that BLM, MoveOn.org, and Berners are showing up at Trump rallies for the sole purpose of denying free speech and to cause trouble. They need their azzes kicked.

lmao

ok. now is 'speech denied' a legal term, constitutional?

I would like to research this theory further...... oh and perhaps some links to examples of when Trump has had his speech 'denied',,,,,that would be helpful too,,,,

since its been all over the news and groups,,,

Edited by msharmony on Sun 03/13/16 09:54 AM

Kindlightheart

Sun 03/13/16 10:03 AM

Chicago must be cursed...perhaps before the end of this election the movie stars and rock stars can do a remake of "the night Chicago died"....before they all leave the country...then they can donate all the money it makes into a welfare program ...lol... laugh

Conrad_73

Sun 03/13/16 10:09 AM

I really like how my friend puts it on Facebook:

All right, I am going to say it. Yes, Black Lives Matter! ut where are those [screaming] and rioting people when one of my friends get[s] killed by their black neighbor. Is it only black lives matter when they are killed by other races – but when my friend get[s] kill[ed] by another black man his life didn’t matter? No outrage, no screaming, no marches, no [destructive] riots, no federal investigation, no comment from the president – nothing!!

I am going to say it, murder is murder and should be the same no matter who commits it. In the end my friend is still dead and I have to watch his family weep while lowering his lifeless body in a box, down a dark hole.

Am I missing something?

The logic here is unassailable. But most are afraid to say it — especially if they’re not black — because it will seem racist.

Yet the error of racism, as I’ve said many times, is elevating race to the most important or only relevant factor in human relationships. Individualism is the best and only mental vaccine against racism.

The Black Lives Matter movement was formed in response to the belief that all or most police action is racist in nature. It’s a sweeping and unjust generalization in itself. Many facts shoot holes in the fallacy, including the fact that much (if not most) violence against blacks is done by other black people, and many police officers are not white, but are, in fact, black, Hispanic, Asian or any number of races (or mixes).

The deeper implication here is that blacks are — by definition — victims, merely by the fact of their race; while whites are — by definition — victimizers, merely by the definition of their race.

It’s a convenient and self-serving attribution for those who (whether white, black or of any other race) make victimization the central purpose of their lives. But it does nothing to advance actual justice. Actual, objective justice is served only by reference to the facts of a particular situation. This includes viewing people primarily as individuals, not as members of any particular race.

The purpose of a “Black Lives Matter” movement is no different than the purpose of a “White Lives Matter” movement or any other kind of movement where race is elevated to the only relevant or important factor: the fostering of unearned guilt. Because that movement’s explicit nature and intentions are collectivist, rather than individualist, “Black Lives Matter” is about as non-racist an organization as any white supremacy group.

When a Black Lives Matter protester disrupts a political campaign rally, it’s an unspoken (if not spoken) dare: “If you disagree with me, that must mean you don’t believe black lives matter; which means you’re a racist. So go ahead. Criticize me. I dare you.”

That’s why I admire my friend (who happens to be white) for writing what he did. Thank goodness it’s still legal to do so, in our increasingly coercive and walking-on-eggshells society.

In psychology we call the guilt-inducing methods of Black Lives Matter “emotional reasoning.” I’ll bet you didn’t know that cognitive psychotherapists consider emotional reasoning indicative of a mental disorder. It does not make me racist to say so. Because when someone accuses you of something without proof or evidence, and puts you on the defensive the moment you attempt to prove them wrong, then the error is for having accepted the unfounded assertion in the first place.

“You’re racist. What? You’re disputing me? That proves how racist you are!”

In logic, you cannot prove a negative. You cannot prove that you’re “not racist.” The onus of proof is on the one making the claim. Black Lives Matter organizers see no need to offer proof or evidence — and they’re counting on you to fall for it. It’s the politics and psychology of intimidation, plain and simple.

If the Obama years taught us nothing else, they have shown us how people who support policies of socialism, wealth redistribution, and general government control over the economy have no credible arguments in support of their policies, and — more significantly — do not think or feel they do. If they did, they would not have to call everyone racist who disagrees with them. If Joe Biden (an old white man) ends up as the next president, carrying on and expanding Obama’s policies, what will they call you when you disagree with these policies then? Anti-geriatric?

The double standard is at work when the most recent shooting in Virginia is contrasted with the June shooting in Charleston SC. In the Charleston shooting, the killer was a white supremacist racist who openly killed black people for this reason. Of course that was a vicious and ugly act of racism. But the Virginia shooting — every bit as cold-blooded and racially motivated — was committed by a black, gay man against whites, because he hates heterosexual whites. We’re supposed to sympathize with his plight, even if not necessarily condone his actions, while the Charleston shooter is (rightly) condemned as an inexcusable, hateful brute who deserves whatever he gets.

Why the difference? It’s because of what my reader said.

The moment you start treating black lives as either more or less important than anyone else’s life is the moment you have become a racist.

https://drhurd.com/2015/08/29/do-black-lives-matter-or-do-lives-matter/

msharmony

Sun 03/13/16 10:25 AM

the double standard is the reason for BLM

I have explained it as simply as I could multiple times in an analogy'

say a man has four kids, one who is a step child

at the dinner table he fills everyones plate but the step child

and when the step child says, 'I need to eat',, he snidely replies 'everyone needs to eat'

that implies that he wants to ignore that although he professes that 'everyone needs to eat', his actions don't indicate that he cares if SHE eats

the justice system handles CRIMINALS, who take lives,, its then called murder and someone is held accountable

problem is that there is so much less accountability IF that life is a black one

..hence ' black lives matter' (there is an implied 'too')

black killing white is much more likely to be deemed a death penalty offense than the other way around

unarmed blacks stopped or confronted by police are much more likely to be killed with immunity

seeming to indicate that black lives are not VALUED the way others are

Conrad_73

Sun 03/13/16 10:46 AM

a Heads-Up!
It's BLM and the Lefties who rioted,Not Trump-Supporters!
BTW,MoveOn,Soros' Brainchild has promised more Violence of that sort in the Future,it's right on their Website!

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