DIY help please!

I want a mesh fencing along the side of my driveway, kind of as shown in the drawing.
I'm using these poleholders that you can/should screw into the bricks, then wooden standing pools and the mesh panels attached to them.

So a rather see-through construction which is what I want as it can storm like crazy over here. I do want to grow climbing roses against it.

Now the handyman says he cannot screw that into the bricks. Why I don't know. I guess he doesn't have a proper drill for it.
He wanted to do it with steel cable and then put some 20cm long in the ground, in between the bricks.

That had me flabbergabbered as me's thinking, how's that going to hold it up?

Now I was thinking as alternative to screwing (bolting) it in the bricks, maybe using ground anchors (see photo), but again, is that going to be strong & solid?
Especially considering the heavy storms we get here?
These anchors are 6mm (otherwise they won't fit in between the bricks) and 23cm long.

What do you think? Is that going to work?? It has to be able to withstand heavy gale force as in 10-12 Beaufort.

HERE THE PHOTOS:

THE DESIGN:


THE ANCHOR:


THE POLE HOLDERS:

Any time you put up a fence it's almost like putting up a sail on a boat, even if it's a "mesh" fence. Adding the climbing plants will give it even more wind resistance. With the kind of gale force winds your talking about, those "anchors" aren't going to hold very well, and your fence will soon be bending in the direction of the wind.

The posts (poles) should be buried in a concrete block, if it's going to hold up .... just like any other regular fencing job ... otherwise it's like camping , where you hold the tent into the ground with little v spikes ( anchors ) ....

I was never employed to install fencing but what you describe makes me think there is a bit more to the job.

One thing, check the freeze depth in your area.
Dig some holes with a post hole digger to that depth.
Mix up a bag of concrete (you will probably meed more than 1 bag and the sand by ratio for all the holes.
Pour the concrete mix into the holes and insert the poles, posts you want to use. I would probably go with mesh fencing metal poles.

The Fencing you describe sounds like Roll Fencing.


If you do it right, you can backfill the poles with dirt so you can't see the concrete.
Plus, using concrete and metal poles will keep it lightweight but strong against wind damage. By sinking the concrete into a hole deeper than the freeze depth will prevent the pole anchors from uplifting during the winter.


I've installed this type of fence around my own yard as a dog fence. My boys helped me and it only took a couple days. The hardest part was stretching the fence for a tight install (we used a come-a-long)

Hardware/Home Improvment stores usually stock a wide range of wire mesh fencing and poles. Not only in style but in height. The also sell sand and concrete.
You can install the poles without a concrete base is your ground is normally firm and your freeze depth is rather shallow. Install the poles with a sledgehammer and a plumb.

Anyway, perhaps someone who actually installs fences for a living can point you in the right direction?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2fzat-H6M4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttYtTEsQXOU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbAUKCRwyuc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8t_70xZlTQ

If you are dead set to use 4x4s you could carefully insert the metal bracket into the concrete before it fully sets. Making sure the bracket is plumb and oriented to the direction you want.
After the concrete sets, insert the post and bury the base in back-fill.

Then use hardware to attach the fencing. You would need to calculate the arc of the bend near the driveway so the fence doesn't bind against the pole. But that's do-able.

This would allow you to remove the posts and fencing at will (just back fill the post holes with the brackets) try to remember to set the top edge of the bracket below grade so back-filled you can still mow over it and nobody will trip on it.

Try to remember untreated metal will rust and untreated wood will rot.

Thanks for your help, guys!
I didn't think those anchors would work. I still don't understand why he cannot simply drill in the bricks.
I don't want to use concrete to set the poles as I live in a rental. I want the whole lot to be removable in case I move house.

At least I know I will have to find another handyman for this job. (dammit!)

Thank you!!

@Tom... it's not mesh on a roll but panels. These cannot bend and also don't need stretching.
It's galvanised steel that shouldn't rust for years, the wood is impregnated and if not sitting in soil they should last a good time too.
I might treat or stain them upon arrival to give extra protection though.

That's what I was afraid of too when I heard the handyman explain how he wanted to fix the lot.
Thank you! Not going for those anchors as I want a solid construction.

If you are not wanting to dig down for the poles to go into the ground, another option would be to make legs that go out to the sides. Usually 1/3 of the post is underground so if it is a 6 foot post above ground then you want at least 2 feet under ground. So I would do the same with the legs, make them about 2 foot out on either side (talk to your neighbor since they will be going out on their land also). Instead of concrete you can also use gravel and pack it down.

You talk about drilling bricks, some bricks are only strong as they come but will crumble when you try drilling them. Maybe that is why the contractor does not want to drill them? You should be able to find bricks with the holes already in them though.

Paving bricks are only about three inches into the ground. They will not make a good enough anchor for a four foot fence in gale force winds.

Good point. One of these handymen ppl I've contacted are going to come over to see what's needed and possibly agree on a fixed price. I will ask him then.

The bricks themselves can't go anywhere, but what I've been thinking of is that you can't use very long screws/bolts because I think the bricks won't be that thick (not certain). So you can't go for instance 8cm deep as then you're likely through the brick and in the soil. The bricks of the driveway are thick, they're incredibly heavy too, but this constructions is to be placed at the side, in the gutter, which has different bricks.
Wait and see.
I had not expected this to be so problematic...

Well, it is done! I decided to just go for it.
I do intend to have a climbing rose on it in spring, thinking that during the season with most storms it'll be bare still, as in no / few leafs so not much of a windcatcher. I hope. If it's too much I'll remove it and put plants in pots in front of it instead.
I did have him put in 2 extra poles than I'd initially planned for more stability.

There wasn't time to put on the decking caps so I told the handyman I'd do that myself. Bummer is that it's raining so the tops got very wet. Cannot put decking caps on wet wood, it will instigate rot, so I'll have to wait, maybe as long as springtime :/

I am going to put 2 strings of warm white Christmas colour lights through/on it. I might leave them there permanently. They have solar panels which is great.

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