Topic: the change from sabbath to Sunday biblical or not?
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leo0077

Fri 04/10/15 04:30 PM

Hi to all the friends here.
Now how much do we know about this are we obedient to the command of God or are we following the command of men?
Which is the true day of Godly worship?
Jews, Muslim's, worship God on sabbad, Catholic's and the rest worship on Sunday. There can only be one day for worship. According to the bible.set a side by God.?what what what what what
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seeks_love_of_heart

Fri 04/10/15 04:52 PM

I have no idea what sabbad is, maybe a Saturday according to Jews, some day of Worship??. But being a Muslim man i know that we Muslims worship to 1 true God, Allah alone. And the word Allah is even mentioned in old testament as Eloh-him. Elohim is a Hebrew word and Allah is an Arabic word and Hebrew and Arabic are both sister languages.

However, we Muslims deny to share any deity or any one with the 1 true God. For example we would never say Jesus is God or son of God. rather we would say Jesus is messenger of God. Like wise we believe Moses was the messenger of God as well. So after believing in 1 true God we strictly prohibit from polytheism. You may disagree with me though.

And we believe all three semetic and Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) have same motive to believe in one true God. The only different is people have added or subtracted things into Judaism and Christianity so the obedience to people got into it otherwise the religion with Jesus (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) came and with Moses (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) came was just like the Islam is to believe in one true God.

So we worship the God (Allah) alone. The question may arise how can i say that Islam is not being tempted. The answer is Allah has Himself promised to take care of scripture of Islam. So the scripture of Islam is not tempted yes you may say some of Muslims may not be following true Islam but it does not mean that Islam has faults, rather it means the fault was in that Muslim himself.

But as compared to that Bible of Christians and Jews both are tempered with and added and subtracted with. As we know that new testament was in Hebrew which was then converted to Greek and then transferred again into Hebrew, and once a human hands are touched to scripture they are bound to get tempered with.
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seeks_love_of_heart

Fri 04/10/15 04:52 PM

I have no idea what sabbad is, maybe a Saturday according to Jews, some day of Worship??. But being a Muslim man i know that we Muslims worship to 1 true God, Allah alone. And the word Allah is even mentioned in old testament as Eloh-him. Elohim is a Hebrew word and Allah is an Arabic word and Hebrew and Arabic are both sister languages.

However, we Muslims deny to share any deity or any one with the 1 true God. For example we would never say Jesus is God or son of God. rather we would say Jesus is messenger of God. Like wise we believe Moses was the messenger of God as well. So after believing in 1 true God we strictly prohibit from polytheism. You may disagree with me though.

And we believe all three semetic and Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) have same motive to believe in one true God. The only different is people have added or subtracted things into Judaism and Christianity so the obedience to people got into it otherwise the religion with Jesus (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) came and with Moses (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) came was just like the Islam is to believe in one true God.

So we worship the God (Allah) alone. The question may arise how can i say that Islam is not being tempted. The answer is Allah has Himself promised to take care of scripture of Islam. So the scripture of Islam is not tempted yes you may say some of Muslims may not be following true Islam but it does not mean that Islam has faults, rather it means the fault was in that Muslim himself.

But as compared to that Bible of Christians and Jews both are tempered with and added and subtracted with. As we know that new testament was in Hebrew which was then converted to Greek and then transferred again into Hebrew, and once a human hands are touched to scripture they are bound to get tempered with.
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VelocityRaptor

Fri 04/10/15 05:26 PM

Pretty sure Sabbath is Saturday just from language basis.

But the true day of Godly worship is every day :thumbsup:
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SheikOfLaBroquerie

Fri 04/10/15 05:29 PM

In the early four century at the Counsel Of Nicaea, The Church decided to change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.

While Jews still celebrate the Sabbath from Friday at sunset till Saturday at sunset, most of Christendom still uses the Papal Decreed new Sunday-Sabbath. Muslims use Friday at midday as time for weekly principal prayer for the community together.

It's important to note while Muslims are mindful that Allah created the Heavens and the Earth in six days, it is not the assumption that God NEEDED to rest on the seventh day.

The True God doesn't 'NEED' to rest or sleep or take-a-load-off or catch-his-breath or break-a-sweat.

The True God suffers want for nothing and can not be overwhelmed !
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Ladywind7

Fri 04/10/15 05:42 PM


Hi to all the friends here.
Now how much do we know about this are we obedient to the command of God or are we following the command of men?
Which is the true day of Godly worship?
Jews, Muslim's, worship God on sabbad, Catholic's and the rest worship on Sunday. There can only be one day for worship. According to the bible.set a side by God.?what what what what what


Saturday or Sunday. Does it really matter as long as you set one day aside for God?
The young poster got it right, everyday is the day to worship God.
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cheechako

Fri 04/10/15 05:47 PM


Hi to all the friends here.
Now how much do we know about this are we obedient to the command of God or are we following the command of men?
Which is the true day of Godly worship?
Jews, Muslim's, worship God on sabbad, Catholic's and the rest worship on Sunday. There can only be one day for worship. According to the bible.set a side by God.?what what what what what

The Sabbath in the bible is from sundown to sundown, the last day of the week. Friday evening to Saturday evening is the only day I am aware of, that anyone observes. That would make sunday the first day of the week and not the Sabbath.
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cheechako

Fri 04/10/15 05:48 PM

Definitely a commandment of men, not God.
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SheikOfLaBroquerie

Fri 04/10/15 05:50 PM


[ With Regards Ladywinds Comment ]

Yes...

And, it needs to be emphasized that the purpose is not only for worship, but for us to be mindful that all creation was made in a mere six days of time by our perception.

God didn't create the World we live in in some mind-numbing long drawn-out timeless expanse of countless millions of years.





Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Fri 04/10/15 05:53 PM
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Dodo_David

Fri 04/10/15 07:01 PM

The Day of Rest that God required of the Israelites is from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.
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CowboyGH

Fri 04/10/15 07:21 PM

not specifically a 7th day adventist or pentatcostal... but the sabbath wouth technically be Saturday as God blessed the 7th day and thus by our calculations would be Saturday.
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realcarebear

Fri 04/10/15 07:25 PM



Hi to all the friends here.
Now how much do we know about this are we obedient to the command of God or are we following the command of men?
Which is the true day of Godly worship?
Jews, Muslim's, worship God on sabbad, Catholic's and the rest worship on Sunday. There can only be one day for worship. According to the bible.set a side by God.?what what what what what


Saturday or Sunday. Does it really matter as long as you set one day aside for God?
The young poster got it right, everyday is the day to worship God.



To me it is a big deal. Its one of Gods commandments. REMEMBER the sabbath day and keep it holy.
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leo0077

Fri 04/10/15 07:35 PM


Hi to all the friends here.
Now how much do we know about this are we obedient to the command of God or are we following the command of men?
Which is the true day of Godly worship?
Jews, Muslim's, worship God on sabbad, Catholic's and the rest worship on Sunday. There can only be one day for worship. According to the bible.set a side by God.?what what what what what

St John. 4:22 Jesus speaking "ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

All tho we don't like some truths of the bible or the fact that Jesus is the only son of God is OK I don't think he has a problem if we consider him a massanger of God that was his role too. our teaching as children depending on where we are thought we have a mind set according to our seroundings and teachers. Still that is not a scuse not to seek the truth of God till we mature.
To worship in one day or another is part of sa!vation God made it very clear.
The messenger Jeus Christ made it very clear. There was no church established then, the messangerJesus did not changed it the disciples did not change it.
It was changed if I'm not mistaken by Constantine after the first century. According to history. So is it "valid" does God approve of this change?
According to biblical teaching the sabbath or (Saturday) starts at sun down Friday till sun down sabbath (Saturday).

Mery the mother of the messenger Jesus. Observed the sabbath (Saturday)
St Luc, 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested on the sabbath day according to the commandment.
This verse is talking about the ladies and Merry the mother of Jesus with them.

The idea here as given by the teacher (Massanger) is that God chose a group of people in this case hebrws, Jews, Israelites, or whatever we call them or they call themselves, to be the example for the world. Now days we don't even have to fallow them we got the bible and other books related that teach us the truth so we have no excuse.
And yes every day we should worship God at least thank him for another bless day but he is going to hold us accountable specifically for observing the seventh day sabbath day. (Saturday) not Sunday.

St Mark. 2:27; And he said unto them, the sabbath was made for man. Not man for the sabbath. (Saturday)


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CowboyGH

Fri 04/10/15 07:42 PM




Hi to all the friends here.
Now how much do we know about this are we obedient to the command of God or are we following the command of men?
Which is the true day of Godly worship?
Jews, Muslim's, worship God on sabbad, Catholic's and the rest worship on Sunday. There can only be one day for worship. According to the bible.set a side by God.?what what what what what


Saturday or Sunday. Does it really matter as long as you set one day aside for God?
The young poster got it right, everyday is the day to worship God.



To me it is a big deal. Its one of Gods commandments. REMEMBER the sabbath day and keep it holy.


Again, not specifically a 7th day adventist or penticostal.. but by all technicalities the Sabbath would be on Saturday as that's that 7th day of the week.
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SheikOfLaBroquerie

Fri 04/10/15 07:43 PM


not specifically a 7th day adventist or pentatcostal... but the sabbath would technically be Saturday as God blessed the 7th day and thus by our calculations would be Saturday.



smile2 So, what day would resume being the Sabbath since Joshua asked in prayer for the Sun to stand still in battle. (Joshua 10: 12-14)
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CowboyGH

Fri 04/10/15 07:47 PM



not specifically a 7th day adventist or pentatcostal... but the sabbath would technically be Saturday as God blessed the 7th day and thus by our calculations would be Saturday.



smile2 So, what day would resume being the Sabbath since Joshua asked in prayer for the Sun to stand still in battle. (Joshua 10: 12-14)


Don't know specifically.. as the calender we have now is not the same calender they celebrated then. Don't know what specifically the Sabbath is Sun/Sat, ect.
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yellowrose10

Fri 04/10/15 07:53 PM




not specifically a 7th day adventist or pentatcostal... but the sabbath would technically be Saturday as God blessed the 7th day and thus by our calculations would be Saturday.



smile2 So, what day would resume being the Sabbath since Joshua asked in prayer for the Sun to stand still in battle. (Joshua 10: 12-14)


Don't know specifically.. as the calender we have now is not the same calender they celebrated then. Don't know what specifically the Sabbath is Sun/Sat, ect.


I was just about to ask how do we know what day the Sabbath is in modern day. Not trying to debate it. It's an honest question that I don't know
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SassyEuro

Fri 04/10/15 08:00 PM


Hi to all the friends here.
Now how much do we know about this are we obedient to the command of God or are we following the command of men?
Which is the true day of Godly worship?
Jews, Muslim's, worship God on sabbad, Catholic's and the rest worship on Sunday. There can only be one day for worship. According to the bible.set a side by God.?what what what what what


It is and always will be, Sundown Friday to Sundown Saturday.
" Remember the Sabbath Day To Keep it Holy "

God does not change for man or for the convince & control issues of the Vactician or any ( supposed organized, tax exempt organization). :angel:
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SheikOfLaBroquerie

Fri 04/10/15 08:03 PM

What Day Is The True Original Sabbath... ?

Really, nobody can know just because of the verses I quoted from (Joshua 10: 12-14)

Apparently, God Almighty stopped the Earth from turning for almost one full day, at Joshua's request in prayer.

So, when is the Sabbath, NOW ? spock
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yellowrose10

Fri 04/10/15 08:23 PM


What Day Is The True Original Sabbath... ?

Really, nobody can know just because of the verses I quoted from (Joshua 10: 12-14)

Apparently, God Almighty stopped the Earth from turning for almost one full day, at Joshua's request in prayer.

So, when is the Sabbath, NOW ? spock


So I am not the only one who doesn't know? Woo hoo!

What if it is really our Monday? I think that might be the point Ladywind might be making?

So who is to say one day or the other is right?

Now I am more confused. I have always observed it on Sunday...but who knows