SassyEuro2 stated >>>
And where is all this proof? I have waiting since 1975.
Lke many sciences it is an INEXACT Science.
Sadly, lots of conditioning. Been happening for 50 yrs
* Took Nazi Germany a long time too. It is a slow process, so the public excepts without revolution *
From - the 10% story, parades, rainbows, adoption, gay marriage... it just keeps going.... until we reach the point that we see like NOW on forums ... but nation wide & then globally.

" If you don't like it, believe it, tolerate & except. Then something is wrong with YOU. "

Intersex
Intersex is a group of conditions where there is a discrepancy between the external genitals and the internal genitals (the testes and ovaries).

The older term for this condition, hermaphroditism, came from joining the names of a Greek god and goddess, Hermes and Aphrodite. Hermes was a god of male sexuality (among other things) and Aphrodite a goddess of female sexuality, love, and beauty.

Although the older terms are still included in this article for reference, they have been replaced by most experts (and patients and families) because they are misleading, confusing, and insensitive. Increasingly this group of conditions is being called disorders of sex development (DSDs).
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001669.htm

Having something as simple as a testosterone or a hormone blood count run can provide a pubescent teenager with quite a lot of answers --- 'IF' and only 'IF' the child is allowed to have access to medical staff that could assist them; but sadly most of these incidents just cause 'HORROR' and such negative knee-jerk reactions that the pubescent teenager just fakes their confusion or lives in fear of being discovered {still in this the 21st century}.

But for the 'Intersexed' babies; all this most recent discoveries have evolved from the emerging onset of our 'BabyBoomers' and Alzheimer's and the funding that has been set aside for studying what is going on in our brains!



Now these babies are having a full spectrum blood draw; and choices are being made based on 'Medical Knowledge'...not on what some doctor flipped a coin and made a choice because he decided what he was looking at fit his 'IDEAL' of what was correct for that baby!

Good Lord...this and the topic keeps getting pulled into having sex with animals!!! Rather sad that this is the very reason that other countries are so far advanced in their medical studies then the USA and our 'Right Leaning Conservative' mindset that seem bent on controlling funding!

Doesn't matter much until it's your baby - your niece or nephew - your grand child...

Having something as simple as a testosterone or a hormone blood count run can provide a pubescent teenager with quite a lot of answers --- 'IF' and only 'IF' the child is allowed to have access to medical staff that could assist them; but sadly most of these incidents just cause 'HORROR' and such negative knee-jerk reactions that the pubescent teenager just fakes their confusion or lives in fear of being discovered {still in this the 21st century}.

But for the 'Intersexed' babies; all this most recent discoveries have evolved from the emerging onset of our 'BabyBoomers' and Alzheimer's and the funding that has been set aside for studying what is going on in our brains!



Now these babies are having a full spectrum blood draw; and choices are being made based on 'Medical Knowledge'...not on what some doctor flipped a coin and made a choice because he decided what he was looking at fit his 'IDEAL' of what was correct for that baby!

Good Lord...this and the topic keeps getting pulled into having sex with animals!!! Rather sad that this is the very reason that other countries are so far advanced in their medical studies then the USA and our 'Right Leaning Conservative' mindset that seem bent on controlling funding!

Doesn't matter much until it's your baby - your niece or nephew - your grand child...

again, people with both sex organs isn't the
point here, they actually have a reason for the
confusion...

This is analysis based on 17 studies from Europe.. Much more advanced than we are... hahaha

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11444668/Study-on-penises-reveals-the-average-size-...-and-its-smaller-than-you-think.html

Preach Moe.....anyone with a smidgeon of any sense knows that whats being talked about is normal male and female children who may be getting inundated with LBGTQRSTWXYZ crap when, in reality, they should be concentrating on reading, writing, and arithmetic.
And I love it when someone injects "science" into the argument...."science" cant make up its damn mind if cholesterol is good or bad for you.....and we want it deciding our childrens genders? When anyone with a lick of common sense can determine gender with a quick glance between the legs? It really IS that simple......unless its agenda driven....then the agenda drivers love to inundate us with as much "info" as possible and hopefully prevail in the confusion. Its actually laughable to me.

remember this movie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFs80rf9D4Q

Having something as simple as a testosterone or a hormone blood count run can provide a pubescent teenager with quite a lot of answers --- 'IF' and only 'IF' the child is allowed to have access to medical staff that could assist them; but sadly most of these incidents just cause 'HORROR' and such negative knee-jerk reactions that the pubescent teenager just fakes their confusion or lives in fear of being discovered {still in this the 21st century}.

But for the 'Intersexed' babies; all this most recent discoveries have evolved from the emerging onset of our 'BabyBoomers' and Alzheimer's and the funding that has been set aside for studying what is going on in our brains!



Now these babies are having a full spectrum blood draw; and choices are being made based on 'Medical Knowledge'...not on what some doctor flipped a coin and made a choice because he decided what he was looking at fit his 'IDEAL' of what was correct for that baby!

Good Lord...this and the topic keeps getting pulled into having sex with animals!!! Rather sad that this is the very reason that other countries are so far advanced in their medical studies then the USA and our 'Right Leaning Conservative' mindset that seem bent on controlling funding!

Doesn't matter much until it's your baby - your niece or nephew - your grand child...

Yes I do... We should spend a billion dollars a year studying why .00001% of the population can't decide on whether they want to be a dog or cat....

huh... and it sounds silly when you put it like that...

Gender species fluidly- ..

Just for today I will bark, because tomorrow I may want to meow.

SassyEuro stated >>> Oh it is about saving babies now?
You want to bring the Pro lifers on this thread? That was on another thread. rofl * Come one & come all *

Intersex - We have been there & done that, on another thread. Extensive blood work means & proves NOTHING. It is TOO complicated for blood work to determine. TOO many factors. It is a VERY SMALL percentage of the population.

Conservatives - Are NOT controlling scientific research. Americans are behind because we have been behind in ALL academics for DECADES.
Giving away money to special interest groups that LIBERALS want us to take care of for FIVE generations. .
* Might have lost a lot of American Scientific minds then *

Conservatives are definitely are NOT ' controlling funding '... IF WE were, YOU wouldn't have ANY banana

Gender species fluidly- ..

Just for today I will bark, because tomorrow I may want to meow.

well, as long as your happy barking/meowing...thats all that matters is that your happy...

the other 7 billion people can just deal with it, our opinions mean nothing to compared to one persons happiness... even tho we have no idea what your barking/meowing about...

What will happen with all the blue and pink lil knit caps the maternity wards have stockpiled?


"" Nine intersex and transgender people,
including the Trans Alliance Society, have filed
a complaint with the B.C. Human Rights
Tribunal to remove gender from birth
certificates.
Morgane Oger, society chair and a trans
woman, said by removing the gender markers
off birth certificates, intersex, trans, and
gender nonconforming residents will no longer
be born into discrimination.
“We’re trying to get it so that if you want to
find out somebody’s gender, you ask them
and you can ask them to declare it,” she said.
“You can ask them to have some sort of
process to talk about who they are, but you
don’t tell them to come up with a document
based on a two-second inspection at birth.”
Oger said the tribunal has agreed to review
the complaint and is hopeful it goes
somewhere, but knows they’re asking for a big
administrative change.""
http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2015/05/24/remove-gender-from-birth-docs-group