Topic: 'Hitler Was Right' Posters : UK Campus
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mightymoe

Sun 11/01/15 01:36 AM


http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler-myths.htm

when Idiots on Campus and elsewhere chant that Hitler "Was Right" it is in one Context,and one Context only,it refers to the Extermination of Jews,and other "Undesirables"!

http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm


it would seem that way, thats what he's famous for... i'd be willing to bet it's the muslims behind it as well...
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Lpdon

Sun 11/01/15 01:05 AM


Ok, before I post a comment, and people flip out, let's be clear here. Hitler was a bad man. The Nazis were bad men. Killing 6 million Jews was heinous and attempting to dominate the world was a deadly aspiration that resulted in the deaths of millions more. Ok? Nazis bad.

NOW, the poster DOESN'T say anything about the above. The poster DOESN'T say kill anyone, beat anyone, tattoo numbers into their arms, or dominate the world. It literally has a picture of Hitler and the phrase 'Hitler Was Right'.

So, Hitler is universally regarded as the first modern politician to campaign for office using the airplane. At the time he was considered almost God-like for being able to appear in widely distant cities on the same day to give a speech.

He's considered to be the 'father' of the German highway system on which the U.S. 'interstate' highway system was modeled.

Approved manufacture of the volkswagen car.

So was being a visionary campaigner, highway engineer, or vehicle sponsor wrong?

I completely understand why the poster would upset people, but is it REALLY a hate crime? The article claims the poster is anti-semitic, but Jews are not mentioned or seen anywhere on the poster! The ONLY anti-semitic comments mentioned in the article were scrawled across a window ledge, not even written on one of the posters.

Does it really require the forensic resources of the police department to dust for prints and review CCTV footage and try to arrest someone for an OPINION? Right now, that's all it is for whomever slapped them up.

WHEN the system eventually churns up a suspect and charges him/her with these 'crimes' the REAL racist/prejudiced groups will hold them up as proof that the 'immigrants' have taken over, and the government is owned by the minorities. THAT's when the townsfolk with the pitchforks and burning torches come out of the woodwork.

Simply removing the posters and not even giving them the time of day would have been a far more effective strategy in my opinion. Don't give them the TV/newspaper/radio time they're obviously looking for.


Your 100% right. Hitler was a sick, evil POS but he was by no means dumb.

He made a couple of costly mistakes, and it is scary to think how the war would have turned out if he didn't.

First mistake he had some brilliant military and civilian leaders and didn't listen to them and I think there would have been a different outcome if he had.

Also not waiting a few years for Germany to be fully prepared and armed for war. He could have had a fully armed and equipped Army, Navy and Air Force if he waited.

His biggest mistake was Operation Barbarossa he should have kept the treaty with Russia. Spreading the war across so many fronts and to divert so many resources into fighting Russia was a waste and cost him the war.

He should also pressed his allies mostly Japan from attacking countries not already involved in the war. Japan brought the USA into the war, and FDR was a major pu$$y and planned to stay out of the war. Hitler was furious that Japan did that but had to honor the treaty.

Anyone who says Nazi Germany wasn't a superpower does not know their history at all. They controlled the majority of Europe and other parts of the world. It took three superpowers plus France to really defeat them.
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Lpdon

Sun 11/01/15 01:09 AM



he also took a small, war torn nation that had just lost a major world war and turned into a super power of the time... if it wasn't for a couple of mistakes, we all could be speaking German right now... but all people remember about him is his ethnic cleansing...


Again, an erroneous reading of politicized History. He did nothing of the kind. He started with a Germany after WW1 that had NOT been physically damaged by that war, whose factories were intact, and whose people were still basically strong, but desperate and persecuted by the idiocy of the rest of Europe. He propagandized the hell out of what his party did do, and exaggerated it again and again.

The mistakes he made weren't small, and weren't limited to murder.

What I remember him for, is handing control of all of Eastern Europe over to Communism for half a century, and crippling his adopted country for the duration.

If you admire an economy built almost entirely on Government spending, that's fine, but I doubt you'll find many modern supporters for that.


Germany was in dire straights after WW1. Financially ruined for the reparations they were paying out, massive unemployment, food shortages, practically no Army, Navy or Air Force. Germany's factories may not have been damaged but they were crippled because of restrictions put on them after the war. The NSDAP took a country in shambles and made it a superpower.
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SassyEuro2

Sun 11/01/15 01:21 AM

JaiGi,

QUOTE:
Bad analogy or comparison.


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They weren't recent migrants to the point of invasion & didn't have a hand out or a criminal/rape culture.

Right on both counts but indulge me a bit.

Lets start with bad analogy:
Tell me what I missed on Hitler's viewpoint because I never got beyond his 'Aryan Supremacy' line of thought and his thinking that Jews would sabotage the Nazi war effort. Were these enough to trash the Chosen People? Or was it the fact that the economy was held by these capitalists: 'merciless moneylenders'?

Neither.. It was a " Blame game". Weak people love a hero & an enemy.

We in India also have an influential segment in our society called Marwaris: hailing from the desert state of Rajasthan. The earlier gen started off as moneylenders; the next gen moved in as trade during British era and today's gen have among them leading business leaders of this country.

So my viewpoint depends on whether I have taken a loan from a Marwari at exorbitant rates after providing security or whether I am having a decent job working in their organization.

Hitler viewed them not as Capitalists but as moneylenders 'raping' the German economy. A Hate that stemmed among Germans during a weak economy; and from such perceived injuries.

No, Jews were not running Germany. And 'the money lenders' is a stereotype that dates back to ancient times, when 'accountants' were one of the few (slave) jobs a Jew could do, that was not manual slave labor & they were less likely to be killed.
Jewish men, were 'literate' & the majority of The Roman Empire was NOT.

That was the analogy part. Hitler didn't care for the Jews, nor did Europe of those times, raise their voice when this got noticed. The prevailing thought was: 'the Jews had it coming'.

Read Hitler's Mein Khamp. If something is simple & repeated often enough (like a slogan), people will believe it. I also believe there was an underlying jealousy of the 'Jewish people's' resilience & success. Saying, the 'Jews had it coming' is a illogical rationale for their evil. Kind of like a man sexually abusing women & children & saying the victim 'liked it, needed it, wanted it'. And the poor excuse for so called Christians * cough* that believe The Jews killed their Lord & Saviour... ACH! No! A true Christian knows Christ died to fulfill prophecy & pay for our sins...& technically it was the Romans.

Now switch to "invasion" and criminal culture".
Those Syrians coming out with their families are working class faced with the choice of leaving behind their ancestral lands or exposing their familes to the threat of chemical bombs. These people, like most Asian people; don't have guns in their homes. Arming these people does not turn them overnight to an army able to fight the professional military and government in their country.

I didn't say, ' Invasion culture'. And an invasion does not have to be weaponized or militarized.
But from a host country & to the world they are being invaded. It is a great influx of people in a short amount of time. People who have NO desire, nor will they assimilate.

Move forward to the raising incidence of criminal behavior by Syrian boys. It's typical juvenile brain at work. Their brain is not programmed to view women in skirts. For that matter, Indian people in general, the blue collared working class and some segments of youth; are also not used to seeing women in skirts. It hits their brain as forbidden fruits "now packaged in skirts"; a lifetime opportunity. This has nothing to do with religion. It's plain juvenile tendencies; insufficient to cordon them off and send them back to chemical bombs or to some gas chamber.

Hhhaa... What!? Your joking right? Do you really believe that all all the crimes are committed by teenage boys, who have no self control & are being tempted? I will not mince words here & we are way off topic. Simply put. Muslim men have NO respect for women & Non Muslim women are in their own words 'are fair game' especially single women are targets.
* Why weren't you on any threads about Europe or the Rape epidemic thread? Or Europe arming themselves ( especially women) .. About 5 other threads. Are you seriously trying to convince people that ANY negativity towards Muslims is the same as Anti Semitism in Nazi Germany.. !! "

In other words, the view that the boys are 'handing out' a criminal culture is out of context. It's simply a matter of disciplining them and authorities in the host countries can send out very strong messages.

Again. Not boys. All the males. And how, is a host country going to do that to a religion/culture that will NOT except that their men are guilty. Because, in their mind they are not.
What is out of context is that Europe is their HOST & many are acting as CRIMINALS & it should NOT be tolerated.. You know, kind of like Muslims have zero tolerance for homosexualy & toss them off a cliff (if available), or all tall building.
Enough said.

There is a pattern in history: and that pattern is visible as analogies when we compare historical 'processes' not just the end results.
The strife between the German Jew and the German Aryan or German Slav is comparable with the Syrian Shia and the Syrian Sunni.

There is NO comparison, you have failed to make one successfully.

You know all this but yet you paint what is not America and what is not white culture 'under a broad brush'.

What broad brush have I painted?
That American is muti cultural & muti religious? Yes. And we like it. What we don't like is for allowances to be made for ANYONE, especially if it effects us as a whole.


Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sun 11/01/15 01:40 AM
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Conrad_73

Sun 11/01/15 01:27 AM



http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler-myths.htm

when Idiots on Campus and elsewhere chant that Hitler "Was Right" it is in one Context,and one Context only,it refers to the Extermination of Jews,and other "Undesirables"!

http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm


it would seem that way, thats what he's famous for... i'd be willing to bet it's the muslims behind it as well...
you can bet there are!
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JaiGi

Sun 11/01/15 02:49 AM




http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler-myths.htm

when Idiots on Campus and elsewhere chant that Hitler "Was Right" it is in one Context,and one Context only,it refers to the Extermination of Jews,and other "Undesirables"!

http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm


it would seem that way, thats what he's famous for... i'd be willing to bet it's the muslims behind it as well...
you can bet there are!


haha haha ha;
With you and MM in the forums i can't help myself bray like a donkey
haha; haha ha
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Conrad_73

Sun 11/01/15 03:52 AM





http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler-myths.htm

when Idiots on Campus and elsewhere chant that Hitler "Was Right" it is in one Context,and one Context only,it refers to the Extermination of Jews,and other "Undesirables"!

http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm


it would seem that way, thats what he's famous for... i'd be willing to bet it's the muslims behind it as well...
you can bet there are!


haha haha ha;
With you and MM in the forums i can't help myself bray like a donkey
haha; haha ha


Been living down a Spiderhole for the last few Decades,have you?
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mightymoe

Sun 11/01/15 04:03 AM






http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler-myths.htm

when Idiots on Campus and elsewhere chant that Hitler "Was Right" it is in one Context,and one Context only,it refers to the Extermination of Jews,and other "Undesirables"!

http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm


it would seem that way, thats what he's famous for... i'd be willing to bet it's the muslims behind it as well...
you can bet there are!


haha haha ha;
With you and MM in the forums i can't help myself bray like a donkey
haha; haha ha


Been living down a Spiderhole for the last few Decades,have you?


i just looked it up, a muslim teacher was fired for posting something very similar on twitter about a month ago...

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/472944/hitler-was-right-poster-birmingham-university-anti-semitism-jew-britain-uk
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1onlyaname

Sun 11/01/15 06:11 AM

Bin laden waa a monster. Shot in middle of night in front of his wife n kids. No terrorist guarding him. Gaddifi was a monster. Libya had highest standard of living now a hell hole. Hussain was a monster no WMD found. Iraq is a well known American lie. Now Iraq is complete hell hole. Assad an eye doctor is now a monster. We are great at creating monsters. Was Hilter a monster? USA n UK killed over million Iraqis with bull crap sanctions who is the next monster??
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IgorFrankensteen

Sun 11/01/15 06:30 AM




he also took a small, war torn nation that had just lost a major world war and turned into a super power of the time... if it wasn't for a couple of mistakes, we all could be speaking German right now... but all people remember about him is his ethnic cleansing...


Again, an erroneous reading of politicized History. He did nothing of the kind. He started with a Germany after WW1 that had NOT been physically damaged by that war, whose factories were intact, and whose people were still basically strong, but desperate and persecuted by the idiocy of the rest of Europe. He propagandized the hell out of what his party did do, and exaggerated it again and again.

The mistakes he made weren't small, and weren't limited to murder.

What I remember him for, is handing control of all of Eastern Europe over to Communism for half a century, and crippling his adopted country for the duration.

If you admire an economy built almost entirely on Government spending, that's fine, but I doubt you'll find many modern supporters for that.


Germany was in dire straights after WW1. Financially ruined for the reparations they were paying out, massive unemployment, food shortages, practically no Army, Navy or Air Force. Germany's factories may not have been damaged but they were crippled because of restrictions put on them after the war. The NSDAP took a country in shambles and made it a superpower.


If you define "superpower" as "invades and occupies immediately neighboring countries for a few years before being torn to shreds" as being a "superpower," then fine.

I don't follow your reasoning, or your definitions.

As for all those "limitations" you imagine Germany had on them after WW1, you are again mistaken, due to poor quality History being taught to you. Not your fault, but you do need to upgrade your texts.

Just think of this one thing: if the various European nations who put all those sanctions on Germany after WW1 had actually FOLLOWED THROUGH on them, then Germany would never have been able to build a single tank, plane, or submarine. That should get you to think a little bit more logically, long enough to recognize that it wasn't Hitler's "brilliance" or "creativity" that led to WW2, it was his willingness to lie, cheat, steal, murder, and to ignore the rule of international law, during a time when the rest of Europe was so caught up with trying to cope with the Great Depression and the post WW1 plagues, that they took their eyes off the ball.
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1onlyaname

Sun 11/01/15 06:52 AM

Seems to be still happening today. Russia seems to be reminding the USA to stop lieing cheating stealing murdering invading countries breaking international law. I don't see Hilter in charge here is he??
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Conrad_73

Sun 11/01/15 07:33 AM


Seems to be still happening today. Russia seems to be reminding the USA to stop lieing cheating stealing murdering invading countries breaking international law. I don't see Hilter in charge here is he??
Nope just Adolph Putin!
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1onlyaname

Sun 11/01/15 07:56 AM

Yes zionists hate putin lol I admire putin striaght forward words n action. I don't care for the USA isis to rule the world. Moscow following the laws. Americans and Europeans not use to that.
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Conrad_73

Sun 11/01/15 08:18 AM


Yes zionists hate putin lol I admire putin striaght forward words n action. I don't care for the USA isis to rule the world. Moscow following the laws. Americans and Europeans not use to that.

Holy Moly,Putin following the Law!:laughing:
Best one I heard for today!
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mightymoe

Sun 11/01/15 09:03 AM





he also took a small, war torn nation that had just lost a major world war and turned into a super power of the time... if it wasn't for a couple of mistakes, we all could be speaking German right now... but all people remember about him is his ethnic cleansing...


Again, an erroneous reading of politicized History. He did nothing of the kind. He started with a Germany after WW1 that had NOT been physically damaged by that war, whose factories were intact, and whose people were still basically strong, but desperate and persecuted by the idiocy of the rest of Europe. He propagandized the hell out of what his party did do, and exaggerated it again and again.

The mistakes he made weren't small, and weren't limited to murder.

What I remember him for, is handing control of all of Eastern Europe over to Communism for half a century, and crippling his adopted country for the duration.

If you admire an economy built almost entirely on Government spending, that's fine, but I doubt you'll find many modern supporters for that.


Germany was in dire straights after WW1. Financially ruined for the reparations they were paying out, massive unemployment, food shortages, practically no Army, Navy or Air Force. Germany's factories may not have been damaged but they were crippled because of restrictions put on them after the war. The NSDAP took a country in shambles and made it a superpower.


If you define "superpower" as "invades and occupies immediately neighboring countries for a few years before being torn to shreds" as being a "superpower," then fine.

I don't follow your reasoning, or your definitions.

As for all those "limitations" you imagine Germany had on them after WW1, you are again mistaken, due to poor quality History being taught to you. Not your fault, but you do need to upgrade your texts.

Just think of this one thing: if the various European nations who put all those sanctions on Germany after WW1 had actually FOLLOWED THROUGH on them, then Germany would never have been able to build a single tank, plane, or submarine. That should get you to think a little bit more logically, long enough to recognize that it wasn't Hitler's "brilliance" or "creativity" that led to WW2, it was his willingness to lie, cheat, steal, murder, and to ignore the rule of international law, during a time when the rest of Europe was so caught up with trying to cope with the Great Depression and the post WW1 plagues, that they took their eyes off the ball.


whoa yea, the Europeans fault..sign of a good leader, getting the job done in bad circumstances...
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Conrad_73

Sun 11/01/15 10:41 AM

an Empire to last a thousand years!laugh
How long did it last?
A measly 12 years 3 months and 9 days!:laughing:
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Lpdon

Sun 11/01/15 04:25 PM


Bin laden waa a monster. Shot in middle of night in front of his wife n kids. No terrorist guarding him. Gaddifi was a monster. Libya had highest standard of living now a hell hole. Hussain was a monster no WMD found. Iraq is a well known American lie. Now Iraq is complete hell hole. Assad an eye doctor is now a monster. We are great at creating monsters. Was Hilter a monster? USA n UK killed over million Iraqis with bull crap sanctions who is the next monster??


Actually there were two terrorists and two of his sons guarding him, including one we took into custody the night of the raid.

Libya was a hell hole and a state sponsor of terrorism.

Iraq had WMD's, I am guessing you missed the news reports of ISIS obtaining Saddam's WMD stockpiles the US didn't destroy. Where do you think they are getting their chemical weapons they are using on people?

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mightymoe

Sun 11/01/15 05:05 PM


an Empire to last a thousand years!laugh
How long did it last?
A measly 12 years 3 months and 9 days!:laughing:


same thing as saying "hope and change"...