Well there goes the neighborhood..

This isn't about discrimination it is about setting up another fiasco.

This sexist/homophobic garbage is so much tripe it would be funny if it were not so ridiculous.

There are a lot of qualities that determine fitness for duty and who could and should be in in a combat theater and the best professional to do the job. Size and brute strength has not been and never will be the single factor; and if that were the case some of the smaller size male Marines would have never been in the Ranks either.

Those who think that men and women can not train together, fight together, and yes live together with out sexualizing each other are the same kind of perverts that say the few that use sexual abuse of children as and irresistible urge as justification. Many men, and women, understand the sacrifices of privacy in situations they either choose to serve together or are forced to by circumstances to endure and just as often over come the enemy. Are they aware of gender, well duh yea, but so are the those who have served for generations and were attracted to same gender and did not act on that either. At least at not such a level as to impede the mission. And those in command and leadership positions will tell you, any day of the week, it is not the gender of the soldier but their ability to put the mission first.

I dare say, from experience, that it does not downgrade the ability of either gender; except for those few bad apples that want it to be used for their own selfish advantage over others. And in fact actually make the units stronger both mentally and physically. And in some ways smaller soldiers weather male or female are actually better at certain tactics, and surviving certain situations. This has been proven historically over and over. In militias all over the world.

If you actually have been in real combat or life and death situations females are just as fierce and just as capable as males to resist and overwhelm as men.

I dare say I am a much better marksman, able to defend myself by tactics and self defense/attack/survival skills as the majority of men. And I know my ability to think and survive my situation on my wits, stamina, cunning, and experience is better than many men.

You know, I would LOVE for you to meet a few friends of mine (all female) who served in front line type positions (such as with marine infantry units). Everyone is entitled their individual opinion, but you really do need to wake up and realize that you are in the 21st century now, not the dark ages. Discrimination IS being put to rest, slowly but surely, this is not going to stop.

You know, I would LOVE for you to meet a few friends of mine (all female) who served in front line type positions (such as with marine infantry units). Everyone is entitled their individual opinion, but you really do need to wake up and realize that you are in the 21st century now, not the dark ages. Discrimination IS being put to rest, slowly but surely, this is not going to stop.

Well, I spent my time in Paris Island, combat training and Camp Lejeune and there was a reason the men and women were separated. Don't get me wrong, the woman trained hard, that is for sure. And they were tough as they could be. But fact is they would get there *** kicked in the hand to hand combat training if the training was male / Female.Which would more the likely mean failure on the battle field, which in turn leads to death.. for her. And it puts the other Marines in danger.

PC... No... Fact... yes.

This sexist/homophobic garbage is so much tripe it would be funny if it were not so ridiculous.

There are a lot of qualities that determine fitness for duty and who could and should be in in a combat theater and the best professional to do the job. Size and brute strength has not been and never will be the single factor; and if that were the case some of the smaller size male Marines would have never been in the Ranks either.

Those who think that men and women can not train together, fight together, and yes live together with out sexualizing each other are the same kind of perverts that say the few that use sexual abuse of children as and irresistible urge as justification. Many men, and women, understand the sacrifices of privacy in situations they either choose to serve together or are forced to by circumstances to endure and just as often over come the enemy. Are they aware of gender, well duh yea, but so are the those who have served for generations and were attracted to same gender and did not act on that either. At least at not such a level as to impede the mission. And those in command and leadership positions will tell you, any day of the week, it is not the gender of the soldier but their ability to put the mission first.

I dare say, from experience, that it does not downgrade the ability of either gender; except for those few bad apples that want it to be used for their own selfish advantage over others. And in fact actually make the units stronger both mentally and physically. And in some ways smaller soldiers weather male or female are actually better at certain tactics, and surviving certain situations. This has been proven historically over and over. In militias all over the world.

If you actually have been in real combat or life and death situations females are just as fierce and just as capable as males to resist and overwhelm as men.

I dare say I am a much better marksman, able to defend myself by tactics and self defense/attack/survival skills as the majority of men. And I know my ability to think and survive my situation on my wits, stamina, cunning, and experience is better than many men.

at the base seems to be whether we have a blanket belief in men being stronger than women or not...

in the past, I have believed in INDIVIDUAL assessment,
for instance, I believe that the 'monster' theory whenever a male puts his hands on a woman aggressively is BUNK,, unless woman is just as much a 'monster' when she does the same to a man


I believe if you are grown and put your hands on someone, you don't get to be a 'victim' if they return the favor, whatever sex you are


,,,consistent with that, it seems to me that IF and when they find females that can truly hang with the boys,,, there shouldn't be a reason to exclude THAT female,,,

This sexist/homophobic garbage is so much tripe it would be funny if it were not so ridiculous.

There are a lot of qualities that determine fitness for duty and who could and should be in in a combat theater and the best professional to do the job. Size and brute strength has not been and never will be the single factor; and if that were the case some of the smaller size male Marines would have never been in the Ranks either.

Those who think that men and women can not train together, fight together, and yes live together with out sexualizing each other are the same kind of perverts that say the few that use sexual abuse of children as and irresistible urge as justification. Many men, and women, understand the sacrifices of privacy in situations they either choose to serve together or are forced to by circumstances to endure and just as often over come the enemy. Are they aware of gender, well duh yea, but so are the those who have served for generations and were attracted to same gender and did not act on that either. At least at not such a level as to impede the mission. And those in command and leadership positions will tell you, any day of the week, it is not the gender of the soldier but their ability to put the mission first.

I dare say, from experience, that it does not downgrade the ability of either gender; except for those few bad apples that want it to be used for their own selfish advantage over others. And in fact actually make the units stronger both mentally and physically. And in some ways smaller soldiers weather male or female are actually better at certain tactics, and surviving certain situations. This has been proven historically over and over. In militias all over the world.

If you actually have been in real combat or life and death situations females are just as fierce and just as capable as males to resist and overwhelm as men.

I dare say I am a much better marksman, able to defend myself by tactics and self defense/attack/survival skills as the majority of men. And I know my ability to think and survive my situation on my wits, stamina, cunning, and experience is better than many men.

at the base seems to be whether we have a blanket belief in men being stronger than women or not...

in the past, I have believed in INDIVIDUAL assessment,
for instance, I believe that the 'monster' theory whenever a male puts his hands on a woman aggressively is BUNK,, unless woman is just as much a 'monster' when she does the same to a man


I believe if you are grown and put your hands on someone, you don't get to be a 'victim' if they return the favor, whatever sex you are


,,,consistent with that, it seems to me that IF and when they find females that can truly hang with the boys,,, there shouldn't be a reason to exclude THAT female,,,

my guess would be because MEN set the rules,,lol

my guess would be because MEN set the rules,,lol

in time,,,

and its not so much about women being 'equal', as it is about individuals being assessed individually,,