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Topic: Wearing Unearned Metals Is Free Speech
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SassyEuro2

Fri 01/15/16 02:42 PM


Ao'll be damn.......it's quite Arm to the teeth.......what kind of sistuation was......then i'd think all he need is not a medal but expossion prevention body armor..... yes..... it's free speech....he need to defending more~ if it was me, i won't use any defence solution but the mighty magazine < Duck and cover > yes.......no doubt to it......he only got 3/8 effect protect solution last speech if that medal is big enough.....drinker


I understand you completely. bigsmile
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shahrokh1352

Fri 01/15/16 02:58 PM

hi
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Conrad_73

Sat 01/16/16 01:21 AM






that's funny, that's EXACTLY how I view Trump,,,,

isn't perception interesting?


I suppose so, but I'm not a fan of Trump, so that doesn't affect me. He's got a big mouth and in my opinion he's a loose cannon BUT.. he did MAKE the money he has.. like him or not, he built his business and worked to get to where... by doing.. not bullshitting people

What he did not do was reply on and expect people to donate money to him in order to bankroll his lifestyle, then classify himself as a man of God... to avoid taxes. as Sharpton has done.

But maybe I'm wrong... Since him and I are both in NYC, please tell me exactly what church the good minister preaches to his flock at each Sunday and I will be more then happy to stop in and listen to him spread the word of the almighty... then I will be glad to retract that using the "cloth" as a tax thing I mentioned.





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Trunp was BORN WEALTHY,,,his inheritance bankrolled him and his lifestyle from birth, he hasn't lost it, but he didn't build it HIMSELF



Sharpton was a minister for much of his youth, ordained at 10 and still presides over funerals, two of the latest being Mike Brown and Etta James












I asked you what church the good minister preaches from every Sunday to his flock in order to warrant that tax exemption



pastors and priests preach every sunday

Sharpton is a Reverend and minister



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msharmony

Sat 01/16/16 12:05 PM

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Lpdon

Sat 01/16/16 12:40 PM




I know people get all sensitive about certain occupations

buy lying is lying and a protected form of speech as it should be



or else social network memberships would be MUCH MUCH SMALLER<,lol



unless one is lying under oath or on a contract or impersonating a government employee or officer,,,,


Lying to gain profit is called fraud, plain and simple. These guys use those awards, medals and fake SEAL claims to get free drinks, vacations ect.

That is a crime.



not so plain or simple

fraud has to leave the victim in worse condition and the victims actions have to be reasonably expected

someone getting someone a drink has not left them in a worse condition, nor is it REASONABLE to give someone a drink for free without accepting the risk that they have lied

unless they whip out a military ID to get a discount,,,


being impressed with the metals and awards someone achieves is subjective and your own risk,,,



Not necessarily. I get people for fraud, embezzlement and obtaining money under false pretenses and here in Nevada that would qualify as fraud and would also violate the new Stolen Valor act. This guy was appealing something that happened before the new law went into effect.

This is far from something else. Free speech only goes so far.
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Conrad_73

Sat 01/16/16 12:45 PM

laugh laugh laugh

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Lpdon

Sat 01/16/16 12:45 PM




It's Stolen Valor regardless what the Idiots call it!

Next time I see any kids trick or treating dressed up as policemen, or soldiers, or even firemen, I'll make sure to cause them to feel horrible for stealing valor.

Next time I see a movie where an actor is dressed up in a military uniform with all sorts of medals, decorations, and ribbons, I'll make sure to write a nasty note to Hollywood decrying them.
I'll be especially harsh if it's not a biopic.



I don't see any trick or treaters wearing Medals of honor or purple hearts.

But if they are trying to pass them selves off as a service member and getting the free perks that come with it, that is fraud.



no, its not

fraud would be showing a fake military ID to receive military discounts

lying about your accomplishments in the service to someone who then gives you something free without ASKING for military id,, is just naivety and run of the mill lying,,


Really? Go to You tube and type in Don Shipley. He investigates Stolen Valor and False Seals claims. He explains what it is very well. He does investigations for major companies like the Mirage who give veterans special privilege's like the Dolphin experience.

That here in Nevada there is also a law called defrauding an innkeeper and this would qualify for that as well if your getting services from a business and you don't pay for them by theft or fraud.
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SassyEuro2

Sat 01/16/16 01:24 PM





It's Stolen Valor regardless what the Idiots call it!

Next time I see any kids trick or treating dressed up as policemen, or soldiers, or even firemen, I'll make sure to cause them to feel horrible for stealing valor.

Next time I see a movie where an actor is dressed up in a military uniform with all sorts of medals, decorations, and ribbons, I'll make sure to write a nasty note to Hollywood decrying them.
I'll be especially harsh if it's not a biopic.



I don't see any trick or treaters wearing Medals of honor or purple hearts.

But if they are trying to pass them selves off as a service member and getting the free perks that come with it, that is fraud.



no, its not

fraud would be showing a fake military ID to receive military discounts

lying about your accomplishments in the service to someone who then gives you something free without ASKING for military id,, is just naivety and run of the mill lying,,


Really? Go to You tube and type in Don Shipley. He investigates Stolen Valor and False Seals claims. He explains what it is very well. He does investigations for major companies like the Mirage who give veterans special privilege's like the Dolphin experience.

That here in Nevada there is also a law called defrauding an innkeeper and this would qualify for that as well if your getting services from a business and you don't pay for them by theft or fraud.



Don Shipley smitten loving this guy.
Too many videos to choose from laugh
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msharmony

Sat 01/16/16 02:23 PM





I know people get all sensitive about certain occupations

buy lying is lying and a protected form of speech as it should be



or else social network memberships would be MUCH MUCH SMALLER<,lol



unless one is lying under oath or on a contract or impersonating a government employee or officer,,,,


Lying to gain profit is called fraud, plain and simple. These guys use those awards, medals and fake SEAL claims to get free drinks, vacations ect.

That is a crime.



not so plain or simple

fraud has to leave the victim in worse condition and the victims actions have to be reasonably expected

someone getting someone a drink has not left them in a worse condition, nor is it REASONABLE to give someone a drink for free without accepting the risk that they have lied

unless they whip out a military ID to get a discount,,,


being impressed with the metals and awards someone achieves is subjective and your own risk,,,



Not necessarily. I get people for fraud, embezzlement and obtaining money under false pretenses and here in Nevada that would qualify as fraud and would also violate the new Stolen Valor act. This guy was appealing something that happened before the new law went into effect.

This is far from something else. Free speech only goes so far.


people can WEAR what they want to wear, with the exception of military uniforms

and they can LIE however they wish to as well

if it does not deprive or harm someone else

and the law doesn't generally equate 'harm' with things like deciding personally to give someone special preference


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msharmony

Sat 01/16/16 02:27 PM





It's Stolen Valor regardless what the Idiots call it!

Next time I see any kids trick or treating dressed up as policemen, or soldiers, or even firemen, I'll make sure to cause them to feel horrible for stealing valor.

Next time I see a movie where an actor is dressed up in a military uniform with all sorts of medals, decorations, and ribbons, I'll make sure to write a nasty note to Hollywood decrying them.
I'll be especially harsh if it's not a biopic.



I don't see any trick or treaters wearing Medals of honor or purple hearts.

But if they are trying to pass them selves off as a service member and getting the free perks that come with it, that is fraud.



no, its not

fraud would be showing a fake military ID to receive military discounts

lying about your accomplishments in the service to someone who then gives you something free without ASKING for military id,, is just naivety and run of the mill lying,,


Really? Go to You tube and type in Don Shipley. He investigates Stolen Valor and False Seals claims. He explains what it is very well. He does investigations for major companies like the Mirage who give veterans special privilege's like the Dolphin experience.

That here in Nevada there is also a law called defrauding an innkeeper and this would qualify for that as well if your getting services from a business and you don't pay for them by theft or fraud.


this appears to be a revised version signed into law by OBAMA in 2013, previously it wasn't so

and I believe the previous bill was more constitutional,,,because I agree that people choosing to believe a lie ,, if its not HARMFUL to their person or neglectful of their rights,

is their problem
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alleoops

Sat 01/16/16 02:35 PM



Ao'll be damn.......it's quite Arm to the teeth.......what kind of sistuation was......then i'd think all he need is not a medal but expossion prevention body armor..... yes..... it's free speech....he need to defending more~ if it was me, i won't use any defence solution but the mighty magazine < Duck and cover > yes.......no doubt to it......he only got 3/8 effect protect solution last speech if that medal is big enough.....drinker


I understand you completely. bigsmile


I agree with him too.:thumbsup: