These 2 murder sprees were 47 yrs ago.
Technically, some perps have done their time. Good behavior.. Blah blah blah...
My opinion has not changed in 1/2 a century. Shame on you California, for stopping the death penalty. Look at what it cost you.
* Wow, has it been that long. Not too many countries have the death penalty anymore. But 47 years is barbaric, death would be peace for this human. Forty seven years and Justice could not reform this person. California is an progressive State... and they failed?
And that is something new Cali.. failed at something...
I honestly think Death would have been too easy for what these people did and
had no remorse...It is one thing to do something as horrible as this and have remorse and show it in their actions...
Totally different for someone or several people to do something like this and show nothing...So IMHO the slow torture of being imprisoned like an animal is no more punishment than what the loved ones of the victims feel each and everyday
I endorse your sentiments Rains.The time served gives them ample opportunity to show that they had some human sentiment.Sometimes it takes years to acknowledge ones mistakes.It would appear they have never openly acknowledged their remorse.Whilst the death penalty is in itself barbaric at times it is too good for some people and possibly deprives them of the opportunity to express remorse.Incarceration costs the community but as the saying goes sometimes you have to pay for what you want.Quite often what we get free we don't value.
They murdered on three known occasions (others are suspected to be victims of the Manson Family, Van Hauten has not cooperated in any of those investigations BTW) and tried to cut a baby out of a pregnant woman's stomach. They should have been fried years ago.
The point I was trying to make was that some people change.Frying people does not allow this to happen although it does prevent them from re offending.Executing them is also too soft on them,I don't believe that the anguish and pain involved in execution ( unless it was a botched effort) is anywhere close to what they deserve.I acknowledge that a criminal expressing remorse does not right the wrong but it is surprising how often the family of victims take comfort in hearing remorse expressed.There is no simple or universally acceptable way of dealing with these matters.
It is a well documented FACT that a psychopath and a sociopath cant not change. They can't feel remorse, empathy or even sympathy.
We can word play virtually anything. We can call prison 'rehabilitation', but it is not. We can call a political party, 'progressive', as if all progress is a good thing.
Geez. Diseases are progressive.
So are societies on a downward spiral.
Justice however is justice. And victims of crime & their families & society as a whole deserve that.
And prevention of future crimes is our/ societies obligation.
I have as much compassion, empathy, sympathy for the perp as they had for their victim. I don't want or need to hear ' I am sorry, I changed'. And neither does the family of the victim.. they want and are entitled to swift justice.
Where was this skanks compassion as Sharon Tate begged and pleaded to just give her two weeks to live so she could deliver her baby then they could do whatever they wanted to her. Where was the compassion as they tried to cut the baby from Tate's body?
People this sick are the reason we have the death penalty and life imprisonment.
Charles Manson and his so called family have committed so much evil. There are the 7 victims that are definitely victims of his plus the attempted assassination of President Ford. Not to mention all of the other murders and crimes they haven't proven yet.
Last I read they are still finding bodies every so often out at one of the ranches.......
Yes. I read all that too. And I remember.. The screaming & chanting in & out of the court room, shaving their heads, cutting themselves, yelling & insulting & threatening the judge, lawyers, police.... Everyone. I was young.
