What exactly is that?

I have been a "conservative" Republican for many years. When I was of voting age, my first vote went to Ronald Reagan.
Through the years I have always voted pretty much down the Republican ticket.
This year, when the primaries started, I was looking at Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio(I am from Florida) and also considering Ted Cruz.

Well Jeb stumbled badly and I realized he wasn't going anywhere.

Marco Rubio seemed like a good choice but I was weary of his whole amnesty plan. Although he tried to run from it, his statement "until the border is secure, America isn't ready for it" did not alleviate my fears...does that mean once it's secure you'll give amnesty to illegals?

Then of course there is Ted Cruz, I started to consider him but I realized he would lie and change just to suit whatever came that day.
This was so apparent when during the Trump rally in Chicago it was disrupted by protesters who were clearly Occupy WallStreet, Black Lives Matter and other such left-wing radicals who promoted the violence.
Cruz went on to say it was all Trump's fault which was the deciding factor for me against Lying Ted.

But what I really don't like about Cruz and you can add Bush and Rubio to this, Is that they claim "Trump is not a true conservative"

What does that mean? Because I may agree with only 18 of the their 20 positions, maybe I disagree with their abortion stance, does that make me a Democrat?
Should I call myself a liberal because I believe a woman should have the right to choose in the first trimester?

Where do they get off on defining what a "TRUE" conservative is?

The more and more I really listened to Trump (not the media or pundits view), I realized he is the only one who can straighten out the mess from the last 8 years.

I guess I'm not a "TRUE conservative" because I don't fit some of Cruz's extreme views.

I guess I'm not a "TRUE conservative" because I don't fit some of Cruz's extreme views

He is Canadian.

Go in peace my son... Your not the problem

I guess the real question is why do they think the Republican party has to be run by a conservative? Should all moderate and liberal(if there are any)Republicans switch over to the Democrats?

This riff between the two parties has always been & then escalates pre election.
BUT.. This time it is a circus, for everyone.

This LOYALTY to your or a party is absurd.. And everyone seems to be pushing it. (Rebubs & Dems).

Imagine if in real life people acted like this. " Agree with me completely & sign this pledge ".
B@llshit.

Vote or not vote. Follow your instincts.

I don't know.
I would imagine it means something more like "Trump is not a consistent conservative."

I mean

That's pretty consistent.
If some years you voted straight down the ticket democrat, some years you voted partially democrat, partially republican but registered as democrat, partially or wholly libertarian, partially or wholly independent, partially or wholly green party, partially or wholly centrist, then you wouldn't really be a "true" (consistent) conservative.


Maybe.
If for the last 50 years or whatever you agreed with 18 of their 20 positions, and voted democrat for all of them, then you would be considered a democrat, especially if you were registered every year as a democrat.

Trump hasn't always been a republican.
He's backed democrats, independents, republicans.
He's not consistent in who he has supported with his wealth and power. He's helped people with liberal ideas, centrist ideas, and conservative ideas.

It's always been whatever is in Trump's best interest.
If he can get something from supporting a democrat, he'll act like a democrat, give money to democrats.
If he can get something from supporting a republican, he'll act like a republican, give money to republicans.

In general public perception rich white guy = republican.
If Trump attempted to get the democrat nomination he would have failed miserably. Running as an independent has never been taken all that seriously. Dem vs. Repub has more legitimacy. Can't run Dem, so that leaves one option.

He's not a "true conservative" because he's using the republican party as a means to an end, his best chance at promoting himself, not because he truly believes, or has consistently supported, the republican party.


Where do you get off saying they can't define what a "TRUE" conservative is?
No difference.
It's all opinion.
"They" just get paid for it and/or have a better pulpit than a dating site forum and/or a greater perception of legitimacy and authority.


That's been said about pretty much every single candidate that ever ran for president by their supporters. Most evident with sensationalized crises.

Other than that, there is no such thing as "straightening out."
We are not on any kind of "path" to anywhere in particular.
That's the big lie from liberals. The idea of "progress" that we can "straighten out" a path to an enlightened utopian future.
It's why the republicans and democrats are no different as parties.
They both believe in a path to somewhere, progress towards something.

There is only change.
All change has positive and negative consequences.
There is absolutely no way to remove negative consequences.
No matter how much you think you've mitigated the negative all you are doing is changing the consequences to ones you don't know.

There is only change that is forced from the top down (government/elite), the bottom up (social/mob), and its velocity (technology/war).

There is no "straightening out," there is only "what's next."

In the 1970's I was about less government interference in my life which made me a liberal, now it makes me a conservative.

Kind of funny how what's liberal and conservative can turn a 180 degrees without changing your perspective on a given topic. But it can take minutes to change whether people categorize you as a liberal or conservative.

I was against the war in Vietnam which made me a liberal to some. Because I registered for the draft, even though I was still a Canadian citizen, I was considered a conservative by some including some of the draft dodgers who fled to MY home country.
I had long hair well past my shoulders which made some people categorize me as a "liberal hippy". When I spoke out against the people who spit on the guys coming back from Vietnam I was categorized as a conservative by some people.

I didn't care then and I don't care now how people categorize me. I won't change my views based on a label or to be an acceptable republican or democratic sheep who won't question any part of a parties platform. I won't be a group think zealot to be part of a political party.

I was for Governor Bush as well before Mr. Trump jumped in, I also really liked Senator Cruz, that is until ALL of the BS and lies he has pulled. This guy is trying to destroy the Republican Party. Forcing a convention, it will be madness and it will bring down the party like the Berlin Wall.

The Republican Party needs to start to change with the times though on social issues like Gay Marriage.

Friends, Americans and countrymen lend me your ears.....Stop with the Ted Cruz is a Canadian crap...from all the reports I read (ok cant believe everything you read on the internet blah blah blah)he was born in Canada of American parents, who happened to be in this " medical" haven at the time. But they returned to the land of the free and went after the dream....he is therefore an American citizen...he did get that no??? Now whether he can run for President or not is all up to Americans and the laws that govern....but he not a Canadian citizen....Heck, if you keep up this Ted Cruz is Canadian talk, soon people all over the world will think we are American too....just saying...

It isn't crap. He is NOT legally eligible to be an American President. It has nothing to do with the internet. Look it up & stop taking it personal.

There are at least two threads on it.

Its not crap...its a whole truckload of crap....Ted Cruz may have been born in Canada, which would make him "Not legally eligible to be or run for President of America...but that still does not warrant calling him a Canadian.... Call him Canadian-born, if you will, its all I am saying....he must be something...he is a Senator I do believe....wow...Canadian -born Senator....
I am Canadian , and we tend to take things personally...especially, when it comes to who is Canadian and who isn't....

ADD I couldn't agree more. But when these zelots get it in there head, there's no talking to them. They will say that you were put up to it because you are member of leftist liberal media. And many of these folks are convinced Canada is a socialist country. I honesty don't know we're these duffy people get there ideas. Well I know, but I promised someone I wasn't gonna piss people off..... today. They way I look at it (native) The Americas start in Canada and end at South America. So that's cool with me since our countries political system has decided to do a Hari-Kari.

Thanks Rob... I am glad you stopped when you did... I know you are like me when it comes to keeping promises, to you know who...

Oooh.. Now.. I see your point.
He is NO longer Canadian.
He is NOW a Naturalised American.

For us.. he was born in Canada. He WAS Canadian. To an American woman from Kansas & to a Cuban national. * I don't know what Canada considers that tri- country thing or what the marriage/legitimate/illegitimate, laws were back then in Canada or if they were legally married? *

As far as eligibility.. Duel or Tri citizenship is not enough to be an American President. Because he/she must be 'Natural Born', which means in the US & to TWO, U.S. citizens (I don't believe they/parents have to be 'Natural born' also, but it is possible). This is of course for loyalty & alliance & security.

He is eligible to be a Senator. (Like A. Schwarzenegger), who is also Naturalised. But not eligible to be President. This is also why Henry Kissinger didn't run for President.

Topic: CRUZ, OBAMA AND ELIGIBILITY
http://m.mingle2.com/topic/show/458769/
(This also mentions lawsuits that have or will be filed against Cruz)



* Sorry OP. You thread may have been hijacked *

Duh!! Just thought u Americans were a little quicker on the uptake....that's all I was conveying... Nothing more and nothing less.. Merci

Lol told ya!

Yup u did!!

I think the confusion is there is no telling what Trump is, therefor to call him a 'true' anything, seems silly

Trump is what TRump needs to be in the moment

so far, one thing he isn't is a LIAR...but that remains to be seen... but i doubt he would lie like obarry does...

liar, flip flopper, its all in perception

or DEception,, depending upon the eye of the beholder

Well if It's Lying Ted, it should be Turbid Trump
Hijinx Hillary
And Bernie the Amerinkanski