I vote...what else do you expect me to do?
And I've seen you complain about Hillary. Its ok to complain about a candidate... but not about the pool of candidates?
Or is this frustration about a joke or two aimed at your candidate?

Sometimes change is good. But if there one thing that politicians have proven is not all change is good,
especially change that is driven by ideologically rather than pragmatic logic.
And if the Franklin quote is true....Sanders would be a fool.
Edited by Smartazzjohn on Tue 05/31/16 08:58 PM
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If that is your opinion; fine & dandy.
But do not preach an opinion as A Fact.
On the topic of "Change":
"We cannot solve our problems with the same
thinking["mindset"]we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein

"Bernie will do to the US what Chavez did to Venezuela!"
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I feel that's totally incorrect.

What would be far more accurate would be is that Sander's ideology is
closer to that of Franklin D. Roosevelt than Chavez.
If requested, I would be delighted to provide documentation to
substantiate this opinion.


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*Challenging the Oligarchy*
Paul Krugman
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2015/12/17/robert-reich-challenging-oligarchy/
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At this point "Democracy" is broken & we function in a political system best described as an oligarchy. The definition of oligarchy-1: government by the few, ]-2: a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes; also : a group exercising such control, & 3]-: an organization under oligarchic control.

Our economic system is best described as consumer capitalism which is a theoretical economic and social political condition in which consumer demand is manipulated, in a deliberate and coordinated way, on a very large scale, through mass-marketing techniques, to the advantage of sellers. This system while making "The Few"-much more wealthy has has had disastrous social & ecological consequences that will not be addressed in terms of the governmental policy that promotes profits over people.

"Both campaigns have already agreed. They are just waiting for the fee they are requesting that is 100% going to charity to be worked out. "
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Totally Incorrect.
Please verify for yourself:
Trump says he will not debate Sanders
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/27/politics/trump-says-he-will-not-debate-sanders/
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"Nice try on the personal attack."
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Again, Totally Incorrect.
If I had [any] desire to "personally-attack" anyone;
there would be no attempt on the action. I attack
very openly, directly, & deliberately.

active as in how? to do what? my activeness would change hillary going to prison? i don't see how... if you're active in the bern's process, how is doing anything to help him when he's losing? i support trump, but me being active or not won't change anything... same as farting in the wind, it doesn't change the wind speed or direction, and dissipates very fast - in ten seconds, no one would ever know...

"I vote...what else do you expect me to do?
And I've seen you complain about Hillary. Its ok to complain about a candidate... but not about the pool of candidates?
Or is this frustration about a joke or two aimed at your candidate?"
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I do not "complain" about Clinton but merely seek to illustrate her past actions & political record. As to whether someone supports & trusts her to do right by her "promises" is than up to that individual.
I will confess to total confusion in thinking about the reason that someone, or anyone could support such an obviously corrupt & pathologically dishonest individual but... *shrugs* everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, I do resent when I'm told that I Have To Vote For Her[IT] because my candidate is not able to run.
Additionally, not only has there been a wealth of distorted media spin &
jokes aimed at Sanders, himself but also horrific, distorted, & demeaning mass-media hype on the the individuals who support Sanders.
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Do I resent it? At first it would really piss-me-off but now?
It's just more pathetic manipulation by those who have the most to lo$e if their candidate[Clinton] is not elected .

Don't tell me what to do or say. Besides that I didn't PREACH ANYTHING....if anything YOUR diatribes are arrogant preaching.

Did I hit a nerve when I said if something YOU posted was true then Sanders would be a fool?

Often those who accuse other are guilty of their own accusations...be careful what you accuse me of.

Oh I'm with ya there

i complained about them all, imo, that witch is the last person i want to see in any office, least of all president... we all get pissed in one way or another, why would you let it bother you?


in every presidential election, there's never a winner for the people, we just take what we feel is the lessor idiots...

active as in how? to do what? my activeness would change hillary going to prison? i don't see how... if you're active in the bern's process, how is doing anything to help him when he's losing? i support trump, but me being active or not won't change anything... same as farting in the wind, it doesn't change the wind speed or direction, and dissipates very fast - in ten seconds, no one would ever know...
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*Smiles* I knew[most people] supporting Bernie knew where he started & what he wa$ up against... The predicted outcome was not rocket science. That he even got as far as he was able to is a kind-of-win in it's own way. At least he exposed a great deal of "rottenness & decay"in the Democratic Party & Political System so on many levels, his efforts were not in vain. Why fight what seems to be a battle lost? Because I still have an [irrational?] faith in The American People or people, in general to change. Maybe I'm a deluded idealist but if that's so, than so be it. Take away some dreams & all hope & what's the point of breathing;}

i complained about them all, imo, that witch is the last person i want to see in any office, least of all president... we all get pissed in one way or another, why would you let it bother you?


in every presidential election, there's never a winner for the people, we just take what we feel is the lessor idiots...

"in every presidential election, there's never a winner for the people, we just take what we feel is the lessor idiots..."
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That is The Point! To feel that we're voting for, "The Lessor Of Evils" or between/against a couple of idiot candidates that are/were chosen For Us instead of those candidates who are By Us is indicative of a corrupted & broken political system system!
Who loses?
The people lose the most.

So....who ya got come November? Trump or Clinton?

i feel trump is the better of the three idiots we have to choose from...hillary, the worst possible choice, hands down..

"Don't tell me what to do or say. Besides that I didn't PREACH ANYTHING....if anything YOUR diatribes are arrogant preaching.
Did I hit a nerve when I said if something YOU posted was true then Sanders would be a fool?
Often those who accuse other are guilty of their own accusations...be careful what you accuse me of."
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I'm not accusing you of anything. Actually, you have just accused my expressed opinions as "arrogant diatribes". That's your opinion, right?
I agree, Sanders is a fool but so am I & many other folks that I admire who fight a hopeless fight for the principals, ethics, & morals that they believe in although it may be doomed for failure.

are your meds wearing off?


oh, nevermind... i thought that was at me....

"i feel trump is the better of the three idiots we have to choose from...hillary, the worst possible choice, hands down.."
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Agree.
I believe that a Clinton[actually 2 Clintons["Slick Willie"] Presidency would be far more a danger to the American People than A Trump victory. Many People would think me, insane to have such a belief but facts are facts.

Not at you Moe;}
Apologies -I didn't properly respond correctly with the correct "buttons"; maybe I should delete it & redo it? Maybe not...