actually the Orlando-Club was!
Under Florida Law no Firearms are allowed in Locales where Alcohol is served!
Shooter with his knowledge of the Law definitely knew that.
Real Coincidence then that those Mass-shootings usually take place in a Gunfree Zone,never,say,in Police Headquarters?
California is a Gunfree Zone!

I agree, accept there is one type of penis,,,


and we should protect women from potential offenders,,,

YES!

Both the Sandy Hook AND the Aurora shooters bypassed schools and theatres that were much closer to their domociles to hit targets that were more vulnerable than schools and theatres that were closer or were gun free zones.

No. They shooters are making a name for themselves in their lackluster lives - their 15 minutes of fame.

One of the reasons why many suicide BEFORE they be apprehended by police.

what school or theater was not a 'gun free zone',,,,,,?

Except, the shooter in Orlando was properly licensed, trained and an American Citizen.

So, in YOUR opinion, how was he wrong?

You have stated several times he was not an Islamic terrorist; you discount the religion he was raised in as having zero connection to.

Why did this American Citizen slay his fellow Americans?

Women can (and do) learn to protect themselves.

ok, so more specifically and no longer a general discussion about guns ,,,

I never made a statement about zero connection , we are all products of many different experiences and perceptions coming together in very specific was FOR US

he had a history of violence, against his wife, he was kicked out of training, he had calls made on him that lead to fbi investigations,, this was someone who had many signs of being potentially impulsively dangerous


why does anyone take human life? I will never understand

seems this male, from reports alone anyway,, had many groups he hated,,,, the government, females, and homosexuals

take your pick

ALL schools are gun free zones. There are several private schools that allow CCW on their premises.

Sandy Hook was a gun free zoned elementary school.

The Aurora shooter chose a gun free theatre to attack. He drove past at least four theatres that allowed folk to CCW in them.

and so do laws, which persecute and regulate predatory or threatening activities against them

Except laws can take years to provide protecting whereas having a CCW firearm in your pocket, on your belt, in your purse can provide instant protection.

Remember - when danger threatens life or property, the police are just minutes away.

http://gunsnfreedom.com/28-killed-in-knife-attack-at-train-station-in-china-more-proof-its-not-about-guns

28 Killed in Knife Attack at Train Station in China: More Proof it’s Not About Guns

March 1, 2014 by Guns 'n' Freedom

a false logic, because cities are surrounded by other cities,, you may have 'extensive' control in one city but not in the one 15 minutes away,,,

a quick search

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004888.html

gun deaths vs knife deaths
vs

2012 8859 vs 1589
2008 9528 vs 1888


ID say the most pressing concern lately is guns,, of course something else would take its place once its no longer in first place

but that doesn't negate the need to do something about the first place right now

...let's see..mass murderers and criminals don't seem to respect any existing laws..doubt they will surrender their guns or struggle obtaining them..pretty sure people that want to kill will ..perhaps we could start by getting rid of corrupt governments that are more than likely behind these mass murders...their agenda won't fly without victims...keep in mind..these "terrorist" acts only happen to civilians...never their own kind...and doubt any of those scumbags will go anywhere without an armed guard..

so you believe in Preventive Punishment,to punish someone before they have committed a Crime?
yep,NEED TO DO SOMETHING!
Ban all Butter-knives,let only the Army,Police and Criminals have them!
The only Right you have under the 2nd,is either to arm yourself,or bow out!
Or come and collect those things that offend you so much!
But as the 2nd states,you have no right to infringe!

did you get all that from simple numbers? interesting

to answer your question,, define 'punishment',,,,if you define it by not being able to have a gun that shoots dozens of rounds in a few seconds punishment,,,

,,,then yes, I support 'punishing' those with histories of violence, whether they ended in 'crime' or not

sidestepping again,are you?
BTW,why not define that vaunted "Got To Do SOMETHING" you Guys keep constantly talking about?
I asked you whether you believed in Preventive Punishment,which means to punish someone who hasn't committed a Crime,and most likely never do!
Apparently you do!

lol

'punishment' is in the eye of the beholder