Topic: Consciousness
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Dodo_David

Fri 07/15/16 03:59 AM




Anybody got a definitive theory on consciousness??
So far... It ranges from electrical impulses to the soul of the being.. Would like some input....


Consciousness is the result of a person taking the red pill.




as the Beatles said,
The deeper you go, the higher you fly.
The higher you fly, the deeper you go.





The Beatles took something, but I doubt it was the red pill. tongue2
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Atomsfamily

Fri 07/15/16 05:30 AM

testing
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Atomsfamily

Fri 07/15/16 05:30 AM

testing
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sparkyae5

Sun 09/25/16 05:26 AM


Receiver
Perceiver
Deceiver
transceiver

Degree's unkown


:thumbsup: yep that's real close....:thumbsup:
Edited by sparkyae5 on Sun 09/25/16 05:26 AM
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MoniKa4332

Sun 10/23/16 03:19 PM

Hi

To have a theory of conscience we need first to have a theory of MIND.
What is MIND?
How it forms from the brain or central nervous system.
Why it exists.
In men as in other animals and even in small beings as bacteria.

These are big and interesting questions nowadays we may start answering more precisely, based on quantum entanglement.

Thanks for the opportunity to discuss such things.
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rupkotha2016

Sun 10/23/16 03:21 PM

hi
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MoniKa4332

Sun 10/23/16 03:23 PM

I did try to reply to that post:

There is no 'definitive' theory on Consciousness and even if there were, it would still remain a 'theory'.

con·scious·ness

noun:
the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
The awareness or perception of something by a person.
The fact of awareness by the mind of itself and the world.

"Awareness by the mind" is what interests me in that definition. To me, the mind isn't the same as the soul. The Human Being is composed of "Mind, Body and Soul" so, in my opinion, Consciousness is to the Mind what the eyes would be to the brain, a natural extension of a created and living entity's own will.

SORRY I'm new here a day I don't now well how to reply and post well.
Sorry.
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Rooster35

Mon 10/24/16 04:19 AM


Hi

To have a theory of conscience we need first to have a theory of MIND.
What is MIND?
How it forms from the brain or central nervous system.
Why it exists.
In men as in other animals and even in small beings as bacteria.

These are big and interesting questions nowadays we may start answering more precisely, based on quantum entanglement.

Thanks for the opportunity to discuss such things.


Mind:
1.(in a human or other conscious being) the element, part, substance, or process that reasons, thinks, feels, wills, perceives, judges, etc... The processes of the human mind.
2. Psychology. the totality of conscious and unconscious mental processes and activities.

Based on those definitions, we could say that Mind is what encompasses an individual's conscious and unconscious thought processes, just like the Body encompasses all an individual's biological processes and the Soul, an individual's life force.
I believe that Consciousness works like a network relaying all three; Mind, Body and Soul, into a self-evident truth: that of existing, of being. I believe that Consciousness, although intertwined to Body and Mind, isn't dependent on them but is a natural extension of Awareness, unlike the Soul which, in my view, precedes Mind and Body.

Monika4332, no need to be sorry. Takes a little while to get used to quoting posts. flowers
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ScrumpyHaze

Wed 11/23/16 09:48 PM

Edited by ScrumpyHaze on Wed 11/23/16 09:49 PM
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Robxbox73

Thu 11/24/16 01:30 AM

Man oh man, why didn't I take, the blue pill..this reality isn't like my gell filled apartment at the battery power plant..
Signed Neo
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murphysstrings

Thu 11/24/16 07:26 AM

I think the connectivity the movie Avatar depicts, i.e. between each other and the elemental universe, is pretty accurate. I surmize that some people are more aware than others, though, and animals are more aware than humans. I love this topic.
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Jord33n

Sun 12/04/16 01:40 PM

Some people said it was the atom it's self. Because even when the body dies the atoms in the body didn't die they just become part of something else.

Where did the consciousness come from? Where does that energy go at the bodies end? Is the body one level of consciousness in manifestation, and the mind as another level of consciousness in manifestation?

Is consciousness capable to connect to any and all things in the universe, or is it merely a manifestation of the universe in a form of embodied and localised consciousness?

Is it one and inseparable, whether we are sensitive and aware of this or not?

Does this consciousness frequent its self as an individual mind and connected to the greater universal mind?

Does It exist in many forms, whole, collectively, and individually?
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darkowl1

Sun 12/04/16 02:04 PM

I can actually get out of my body and move things around the room. It terrifies humans, and I rather like that, as the ones I terrify are rather unsavory, or Evangelistic. I've got my reasons, but I don't do it very often.

I've got better things to do... What would you call me... a living ghost?....

Evangelistic Christians have called me a demon. Good. But, To my knowledge I'm not. A Djinn maybe, I'll take that.

To add, I'm a less than good for nothing, hideous monster, and anything but nice. I keep to myself unless provoked.

cause and effect... if I'm poked, I react. If not, I observe.
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SimpyComplicated

Mon 12/05/16 04:44 PM


I can actually get out of my body and move things around the room. It terrifies humans, and I rather like that, as the ones I terrify are rather unsavory, or Evangelistic. I've got my reasons, but I don't do it very often.

I've got better things to do... What would you call me... a living ghost?....

Evangelistic Christians have called me a demon. Good. But, To my knowledge I'm not. A Djinn maybe, I'll take that.

To add, I'm a less than good for nothing, hideous monster, and anything but nice. I keep to myself unless provoked.

cause and effect... if I'm poked, I react. If not, I observe.


After reading that along with your profile
This trip down the rabbit hole becomes all the more interesting
http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/04/the-illusion-of-reality/479559/
Not that its attempt at describing consciousness wouldn't have been interesting with out the poke from you waving
Edited by SimpyComplicated on Mon 12/05/16 04:45 PM
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Rooster35

Mon 12/05/16 11:28 PM


...

Evangelistic Christians have called me a demon. Good. But, To my knowledge I'm not. A Djinn maybe, I'll take that.

...


A Djinn is a demon of the Qu'ran.
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37ko

Sat 12/17/16 03:44 PM

consciousness simply means ur brains synapses are firing...information is being transferred...nothing more nothing less....
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oneness12

Mon 12/04/17 08:17 PM

the brain is local,but the mind is not..it is everywhere...consciousness and energy create the nature of reality
thats my 2 cents worth..
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Narlycarnk

Sat 12/30/17 06:18 AM

Consciousness is an abstract pattern that the mind constantly builds and re-creates, and which has power to control its self. The pattern is about understanding, purpose, and sensation (and communication). Consciousness exists in not only just the brain, but also the body, The desk, field notebook, the filing cabinet, etc. light in a room transmits information about any object to any point in the room, therefore empty space is a part of our consciousness. Consciousness is like a language that changes with the times. Consciousness and self organizing patterns exist in ways that we do not see or imagine. It is in the primordial forest, circadian rhythms, etc. There are many things around that have consciousness that are very lonely and are longing for intimacy.
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Tom4Uhere

Sat 12/30/17 08:40 AM

Past, Present & Future.
We gather stimuli in the present that forms memories of the past which allows us to predict future situations.
Consciousness is the ability to gather stimuli from our surroundings.

An unconscious person gathers no stimuli. During that period, no memories are made, there is a blank spot. Imagination will attempt to fill in that blank spot with other memories. This is why you can be placed in a medically induced coma and wheeled into a different room, cut and probed and sewn back up and wheeled into a different room with no direct memory of what happened. If you possess memory of those events you were not fully unconscious.

The conscious person exists in the present only. Each moment is a series of snapshots of reality as we detect it. Time has flow because we have a brain that preserves memory. What we see as the ongoing flow of time is merely memory of fragments of perceived stimuli we stitch together by association.
When the flow of stimuli is interrupted, we call that unconsciousness.

Future is perceived because we use our memory of past stimuli and the perception of present stimuli to predict outcomes. From this moment to the next is a series of changes in the conditions of reality which consciousness detects. It allows us to function in a state of continuous awareness. If that detection is interrupted in the moment, our memory fills in the void long enough for us to continue a sense of time flowing.

The sensory deprivation experiments of the 50s, 60s & 70s proved that when stimuli is diminished, memory compensates. However, memory does not compensate equally or rationally as a perception of the normal sensed flow of time. It fills voids by extreme substitution.

Consciousness also has the ability to initiate action as a memory reflex. Take walking as an example.
While walking, we are assessing the stimuli and taking action on the conditions as presented. Our memory automatically fills in the details which allows us to shift weight, move body parts, brace for strain and so on. If you were to go unconscious for a period of time within the next step, you fall down.

Most people don't think of plants as being conscious.
However, anyone that understands biology 101 knows that plants respond to environmental conditions. Any time-lapse photography shows plants respond to the movement of the Sun. They are aware of the conditions that surround them. They actively seek out sunlight. Their consciousness is not in alignment with ours but they are conscious.