I've not met, heard from, nor read of a single person who is offended that black people have a gripe with the system. Actually, many of the anti-BLM people I know would actually agree with BLM activists, if not for the deluded pathological liars that dominate their movement, spreading hatred and bigotry.

I think there is a huge problem in this country with people not appreciating the police enough for the job that they do.

I wonder how these people would feel if the police decided to take a week off.

Sadly, I don't think that even experiencing how horrible it would be without police would lead to some of these people appreciating the police. Some people are so deep into their entitlement mentality that appreciation is an alien experience.

this is like asking battered women who want stronger laws against domestic abuse if they understand what it would be like without man


anti violent husbands, is not anti man
and anti police brutality, is not anti police

Um, it looks to me like you are the one setting up false equivalences here. I'm talking about the huge number of people who have zero appreciation for the police. Not as an institution, nor as a collection of individuals. I'm not saying this is true of every single BLM activist; only that its an attitude that is unfortunately too common among BLM activists.

It is (some of) the BLM activists who are making the leap from anti-police-brutality to being completely anti-police.

If someone wants to lobby for improvements in police policies and conduct, that's great. But as a human being, they ought to start with a basic understanding of what the police are in fact doing for them. The police are worthy of our appreciation - especially for law abiding black people living in poverty stricken areas.

the large number is probably proportional to the large number who don't appreciate what government does

I don't know how large a number that is, I doubt anyone does,, but I do know that encouraging police and their communities to have a better relationship with each other is not divisive or racist or "anti police ' as is so often the rebuttal of those who down the BLM movement

That depends on what it means to have 'a better relationship with'. The SJW types and the race baiting types want to control that conversation from top to bottom, and push some radical and extreme agendas under the guise of 'have a better relationship with'.

I don't know what sjw is,, I know civil rights murder cold cases are still open because of the visibility of BLM, I know many communities ae using body cams as a result of the visibility of BLM, I know black people are continuing to get together in groups all over the country to organize against death due to the visibility of BLM


what strides the few agitators make except as fodder for anti BLM fans ,, is not something I have heard much about

Thanks Con! I see you fixed it below....

http://www.amren.com/news/2016/02/the-myths-of-black-lives-matter/


The Myths of Black Lives Matter

Heather Mac Donald, Wall Street Journal, February 11, 2016

{snip}

To judge from Black Lives Matter protesters and their media and political allies, you would think that killer cops pose the biggest threat to young black men today. But this perception, like almost everything else that many people think they know about fatal police shootings, is wrong.

The Washington Post has been gathering data on fatal police shootings over the past year and a half to correct acknowledged deficiencies in federal tallies. The emerging data should open many eyes.

For starters, fatal police shootings make up a much larger proportion of white and Hispanic homicide deaths than black homicide deaths. According to the Post database, in 2015 officers killed 662 whites and Hispanics, and 258 blacks. (The overwhelming majority of all those police-shooting victims were attacking the officer, often with a gun.) Using the 2014 homicide numbers as an approximation of 2015’s, those 662 white and Hispanic victims of police shootings would make up 12% of all white and Hispanic homicide deaths. That is three times the proportion of black deaths that result from police shootings.

The lower proportion of black deaths due to police shootings can be attributed to the lamentable black-on-black homicide rate. There were 6,095 black homicide deaths in 2014–the most recent year for which such data are available–compared with 5,397 homicide deaths for whites and Hispanics combined. Almost all of those black homicide victims had black killers.

Police officers–of all races–are also disproportionately endangered by black assailants. Over the past decade, according to FBI data, 40% of cop killers have been black. Officers are killed by blacks at a rate 2.5 times higher than the rate at which blacks are killed by police.

Some may find evidence of police bias in the fact that blacks make up 26% of the police-shooting victims, compared with their 13% representation in the national population. But as residents of poor black neighborhoods know too well, violent crimes are disproportionately committed by blacks. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, blacks were charged with 62% of all robberies, 57% of murders and 45% of assaults in the 75 largest U.S. counties in 2009, though they made up roughly 15% of the population there.

Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force.

{snip}

your just glorifying more ignorance... what white man has ever made you or any other black person alive say "yes massa"? do you not think that white or mexican people go through the same exact BS from the police?

yes, as usual, it only about blacks... i used to halfway respect what you have to say, but this is just ridicules...

no one has ever molested me personally either


doesn't stop me from believing molesters should be held accountable

today its not yes massa, its yes officer,,, but still the same bs excuse for killing people,

and no, I don't think there is the implicit fear of white or Mexican males that causes fatal reactions to be the reaction of choice

bad example,, I should say no one has ever personally kidnapped me,,,,the molestation is far in my past and something that came to the top of my head

it's fear of a cop losing his life that causes these problems... you're looking at it as a slave type thing, while the police are looking at a "i wanna live" type thing... when the police says let me see your hands, are you going to show them your hands, or just keep them in your pockets like you're hiding a gun or a knife? it doesn't matter what color someone is, the police have a right to live as well as anyone else...

but please continue your racist chants, all you're doing is throwing more logs on the fire with all the ignorant slave and the poor blacks aren't smart enough to follow the police's directions because their great grandfather may or may not have been a slave...

the reason i have NO sympathy is because of the stupid statements i see everyday from ignorant people who just want to cause racial problems, just like obarry(the king of ignorance) is doing...

yes , fear is a big part

implicit fear

and yes, cops have the right to live


the issue is this though,, since the nature of a 'criminal' is to not be 'obedient' to laws or rules,,, there must be an expectation that disobedience will occur

and in those situations , should the immediate response be a fatal one, as is so disproportionately the case with blacks? is death really reasonable because you were scared, as a cop, of what someone might do if they don't immediately obey you?


better trained cops, better community relations, and better SOP , to prevent killing the 'disobedient' is a much more human and logical reaction than killing what you fear,, when black males are so much more feared in this country just by virtue of being black males,, than anyone else

very simplistic answer...

Maybe the FACT that black males are responsible for the highest percentage of violent crimes in America has something to do with it than just because they are "black" males.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-south-west-side-shootings-injure-four-including-girl-6-20160719-story.html

More than 2,200 people shot in Chicago this year, 21 of them kids 13 and under

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/20/gavin-long-cop-killer-linked-to-separatists/

By Bill Gertz - - Wednesday, July 20, 2016

The former Marine sergeant who murdered three Louisiana police officers this week was part of a black anti-government movement called the Moorish Nation, according to a law enforcement intelligence report.

Gavin Eugene Long shot six police officers, killing three and wounding the others in an attack Sunday in Baton Rouge. He was killed by a police sniper.

According to a report by the Symbol Intelligence Group, a private intelligence contractor, Long was a “textbook spiritual seeker” who had joined several anti-government groups, including the Washitaw Nation, New Freedom Group, National of Islam, and Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance.



Last year, Long changed his name to Cosmo Ausar Setepenra and declared himself to be a Moor, part of the so-called Moorish Nation movement of African-Americans who regard themselves as descendants of Moors from Northwest Africa.

The name change symbolized giving up his “slave name” and taking an original Moorish name.

“Long’s new name has origins in ancient Egypt, which is consistent with Washitaw National beliefs that combine sovereign citizen ideas with Pan-African and Egyptian ideologies,” the report said.



The Washitaw Nation is a black “sovereign citizens” group that claims to be a Native American nation in the United States. It was the first Moorish sovereign citizen group and was founded in Louisiana, which may account for Long’s targeting of Baton Rouge for the attack, acceding to the report said.

“Gavin Long believed that he was a long-term victim of ‘gang stalking,’ an alleged form of overt and covert govt sanctioned community based, systematic, illegal electronic harassment and intimidation of targeted individuals and their families,” the report, labeled “law enforcement sensitive,” states.

He also was involved in several conspiracy groups related to government surveillance.

“Members of the Moorish Nation have been identified among members of various security threat groups, including the Black P Stone Nation, Five-Percenters, RBG Rebels, and the New Black Panther Party.”

The report noted that Long was killed on his 29th birthday and noted that studies have shown that men frequently commit suicide on their birthday, and that some believe that dying on a birthday is a blessing the completes the cycle of life.

“The Baton Rouge shooting demonstrates that birthdays, similar to other significant anniversaries, should be factored into threat assessments,” the report said.

One of two men who met at the Ferguson Missouri anti-police protests and who were later charged with conspiracy to blow up the St. Louis Arch, Olajuwan Ali, claimed to be Moorish and was a member of the New Black Panther Party.

The Justice Department took over the case from state police and reduced the charges to minor gun charges in an apparent bid to cover up links to the New Black Panther Party.

Retired Army Lt. Col. Joe Myers, a former Pentagon intelligence official, said Long’s ties to separatists shed light on his anti-police mentality.

“The cop killers represent a true and lethal form of left-wing anti-government extremism, sprinkled with black and Islamic separatist symbology, ideology and racism,” he said.

that may be reasonable if they weren't predominately violent against other black males,,

otherwise,,no

no, not at all

because ALL violent crime is predominately between people of the same race,,black people, white people, or whatever

and because 98 percent of black males are NOT committing violent crimes

I agree that there are good people, with good intentions, getting good results who are involved in the BLM movement.

(I don't take your word for it that these cold cases are *actually* open *because* of BLM, simply because you are hugely biased and BLM leaders are fond of taking credit which they don't deserved, but I see that its possible)




"Organize against death" sure some people are, but this isn't representative of BLM. If they stepped back and asked themselves "How can we prevent death?" the first thing they'd do is form closer relationships with the police, and do everything they can to work together with the police. The police are the organization that is actively working to prevent death. Some of the BLM protesters actually promote murder. Protesting police shootings without enough evidence to know what happened, protesting the shootings in which the cops made the right call, and lying to angry black youth who then start riots - all of these things promote death.




You haven't heard about the strides they've made? They've inspired people to kill cops. The increase in murders of cops is a huge victory for some BLM activists.