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msharmony

Sat 07/30/16 12:26 PM

sacrifice:the act of giving up something that you want to keep especially in order to get or do something else or to help someone

Khizr Khan gave a moving speech at the Democratic National Convention on Thursday in which he took on Trump’s hateful rhetoric toward Muslims.

“Let me ask you, have you even read the U.S. Constitution? I will gladly lend you my copy,” he said as his wife stood by his side. “Look for the words ‘liberty’ and ‘equal protection of law.’ Have you ever been to Arlington National Cemetery? Go look at the graves of the brave patriots who died defending this country.”

“You have sacrificed nothing,” he said.

In an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that was published Saturday, Trump said he had sacrificed a lot in his life.

“I think I’ve made a lot of sacrifices. I work very, very hard. I’ve created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures. I’ve done― I’ve had― I’ve had tremendous success. I think I’ve done a lot.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-khizr-khan_us_579ce135e4b0e2e15eb61dd9?yptr=yahoo

now, lets see how many address what was said (quoted directly) vs how many focus instead on the source of the information

RebelArcher

Sat 07/30/16 01:19 PM

So...I asked in another thread if the RNC and DNC conventions were just a big circle jerk as usual since I was away from a TV while they aired....and the OP answered with this:

"pretty much

this part is pretty standard, in my opinion

the previous months is everyone picking apart why the others wont do
the convention is everyone pulling together to list all the ways the chosen 'other' is perfect for the job"

And now the OP is posting some speech at the DNC bashing the opponent as some 'gotcha' moment laugh

Wtf did you expect? That speakers were gonna praise Trump?
Good Lord...disingenuous is as disingenuous does.

And this being posted two days after it happened makes me think the OP didn't actually watch the speech in the first place....and found it on some site forum like WeAreLibHacks.com or something similar.
If anyone thinks there are NOT people out there who lost children in conflict and support Trump....well, they're just frickin high....and I bet they spoke at the RNC and bashed that lying azz Hillary too.

I'm sure the spin is incoming though...wait for it rofl

msharmony

Sat 07/30/16 01:19 PM

its not a gotcha moment

its not about the convention

its about the Trump response ,, and how dumb it was,,,lol

I just heard about his response, yes

but there is no need to 'spin' dumb

imagine if Obama had compared ANYTHING he has done that made him money to the sacrifice of military members,,,

smh

Edited by msharmony on Sat 07/30/16 01:21 PM

Ozzy4444

Sat 07/30/16 01:25 PM

You don't like Trump?

RebelArcher

Sat 07/30/16 01:28 PM

Shake your head all you want...its STILL spin....and no one gives two $hits NOW about what Khizr Khan said in a partisan speech, much less come election day.

msharmony

Sat 07/30/16 01:33 PM

get back at me with the definition of 'spin' ,,,lol

msharmony

Sat 07/30/16 01:34 PM

You don't like Trump?

its not like or dislike, I don't personally know him

I just think he speaks and behaves as if he is a total idiot

Charles1962150

Sat 07/30/16 03:40 PM

Trump, In some ways, sounds good. In others, he scares me. He's to much bluff and bluster. The things that come out of his mouth. I'm not just talking about the things he has said about women. I'm talking about all of it as a whole. If he makes it to a seat of real power, no telling what he would do. With his seemingly high and mighty attitude, I wouldn't put it past him to start WW3. That may sound like a lot. But that's the vibe I get from him.

msharmony

Sat 07/30/16 05:15 PM

its not a lot considering he claims to 'love' war (which explains his extensive military experience,,lol)

germanchoclate1981

Tue 08/02/16 04:27 AM

Spin would be an alteration of an interview out of context out of order with or without post production voiceovers or commentary. In some cases the candidate themselves can't attempt an on the fly spin or deflection or avoid the line of questioning, in order to instruct or allow a spokesperson or surrogate to spin the story/case/stats for them leaving the candidate to claim a moral stance not to comment until further evidence is provided. This COULD have been Trump's golden ticket unlikely the phony Muslims for trump plant fail at the RNC. This was spoon fed directly to Trump. He couldn't fu<|< this one up it was a knuckleball right over the plate begging to be knocked out of the park. Yet on such an easy opportunity to say 'look public, I'm a reasonable man who appreciates the bravery of CPT Khan and the sacrifice he and his family have endured (bit of a stretch for his delivery) and left it at that but he invoked his 2 Corinthians, I mean 2nd amendment right to shoot himself in the foot. I'm no John McCain fan but at least he's alive to defend himself. We do still have freedom of religion so if you decide you want to convert from Islam to Catholicism because something moved your heart or mind that's allowed here,in America. Vice versa et al, you don't have to be Anglican or orthodox Mormon or scientologist, you are free Via U.S.C. To worship who what or how you worship practice or just believe or chose none at all. 3 major reasons for our revolution were taxation w/o representation, separation of church and State, and freedom of religion. It wasn't a union or Lutherans or Hasidic Jews or Daoists, it was a UNION which means different but TOGETHER. I can guarantee you he won't say the same thing about the Muslim interpreter imbedded with the team that captured Saddam. WHY? Because he can defend himself. If you really think about it, this family was given the honor to have their son celebrated for his selfless action that saved other AMERICAN lives. An AMERICAN Muslim giving his life to save the lives of other AMERICAN soldiers.
Khizir COULD have quoted the Quran and spoke about Allah but he didn't. Who DID was the 2nd televised Muslim speaker who gave the invocation at the RNC which was met with jeers and some very awkward airspace. Khizir asked a pointed yet poignant question then a reasonable follow-up. Instead of answering to Khizir alone as he did in tweets, he had to insult the mother of a fallen AMERICAN soldier. It's ok to have an opinion sometimes being candid is prudent other times like a funeral or memorial service its just outright inhuman especiallyif it one from your country. On this one, to the mother in particular who didn't say a word about him, he went too far.

IgorFrankensteen

Tue 08/02/16 04:49 AM

Inheriting millions, and using them to make more millions without caring who gets trampled in the process, doesn't qualify as "sacrifice" in any version of life I've heard of.

Conrad_73

Tue 08/02/16 05:01 AM

Trump did not insult the memory of Captain Khan!
Probably wasn't aware of his existence,until the elder Khan opened his Yap,about Trump besmirching his Son's Memory bysuggesting that Muslims from terrorist-prone Countries who couldn't be vetted ought to be barred from entering the US!
Didn't have a thing to do with Captain Khan!
Old Khan,on behalf of Hillary and the DNC drew First Blood!
A Clinton-Plant,deep in the Cinton-Machine's pocket!

JOHNN111

Tue 08/02/16 06:44 AM

Losing a loved one to war is a heartwrencing situation for any family to go thru. It is a very personal thing.

Using that situation in a political arena ( Dem or Rep.) is a disrespect to all military personnel. And frankly, in very bad taste..

They never should have been on stage in th first place.

I agree with this... awful noway

The Khans or any grieving family should never have agreed with the request for anyones political gain on stage.
Was there a price tag for their appearance? :angry:

Sojourning_Soul

Tue 08/02/16 07:23 AM

Libs can call Trump dumb all they want.

Meanwhile, every time Hitlery tries to bask in the light of a "bump" from some speech or act brought about by the Billion dollar Clinton Machine speech writers or planners, The Donald steals her air and the news coverage out from under her with a simple statement that drives the media back in his direction for that daily news cycle. laugh

He doesn't need the RNC, the banker puppet political RINOs in Congress, the Millions from the Kock Bros or any other special interest, or the Wall Street casino and carnival barkers, The media performs as Trump directs, even the Left's own liberal cheerleader networks.... again, one has to laugh

3/4 of the population think Hitlery is untrustworthy and corrupt, and the country is headed in the wrong direction. Despite the pleadings and attempts by the liberal networks and their talking heads to get people to believe otherwise, 4 more years of Oblowme's liberal policy and agendas will NOT somehow magically bring change or a different result from the Washington cesspool.

"How, under another proven liberal progressive, the epitome of a Wall Street funded insider political elite, and liar (PROVEN even worse than the current WH occupant), can that ever be possible" is the question on most voters minds..... and those capable of an original thought on the left as well.

The DNC hacks revealed the collusion and corruption of the liberal left against a large portion of their own party, to silence the opposition within its own ranks, then twisted the knife by choosing another wall street funded insider as a running mate for VP.

The liberal media is in constant damage control just trying to save their sinking ship. There is no time, or way, to even produce a narrative or put forth a reasonable or viable message, or policy platform, and deliver it to the voters. They can't even keep their multi-million dollar media spotlight on their candidate (in any "good" way) as Trump steals their air (for free) and puts yet another brand on them or Clinton, or spotlights himself by a simple tweet, speech, action or statement.

Dumb? Needs a dictionary? I don't think so! laugh

When it comes to the left, the right, and Donald Trump, he IS the smartest man in the room as he masters the "art of the deal"!

Sojourning_Soul

Tue 08/02/16 07:39 AM

Inheriting millions, and using them to make more millions without caring who gets trampled in the process, doesn't qualify as "sacrifice" in any version of life I've heard of.

He borrowed $1M from his dad (and you wouldn't if you could?), took his brand from Queens to Manhattan to forever change the NY skyline, spent more time with the workers than the "bosses", raised a formidable, educated, loving, and devoted family (despite failed marriages), recognized and promoted skill over name and influence in his employees (of which there are tens of thousands), and turned it all into a multi-Billion dollar enterprise in the process.

Giving up an extremely comfortable life to enter the cesspool of DC politics because you see what it is doing to the people and nation that you love..... yeah, I'd say that's a bit of a sacrifice. Would you make that choice if it were an option to you?

Not too shabby in my humble opinion!

And about "not caring who got trampled"... I guess you have never run a business, much less one worth Billions. How do you condemn someone for beating out the competition? Oh, that's right, you say they "stepped on" people rather than won out over them.

It's the liberal way on logic.

Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 08/02/16 07:54 AM

Sojourning_Soul

Tue 08/02/16 07:56 AM

I agree with this... awful noway

The Khans or any grieving family should never have agreed with the request for anyones political gain on stage.
Was there a price tag for their appearance? :angry:

Explain that to Obama and Clinton..... but it would have been better to do so before lying to the faces of the parents of the fallen in Benghazi and "that" election year cycle..... slaphead

Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 08/02/16 08:05 AM

RebelArcher

Tue 08/02/16 07:59 AM

Inheriting millions, and using them to make more millions without caring who gets trampled in the process, doesn't qualify as "sacrifice" in any version of life I've heard of.

Let's change that so it fits Hillary.....

Sucking millions from the public teat for decades while trampling other to get even more from the public teat without giving two $hits about consequence doesn't qualify as sacrifice in any version of life I've heard of.

All the bloviating you do about repubs using the military for political gain and not one word about dems using this Khan hit job....telling.

Sojourning_Soul

Tue 08/02/16 08:06 AM

Inheriting millions, and using them to make more millions without caring who gets trampled in the process, doesn't qualify as "sacrifice" in any version of life I've heard of.

Case in point.....Haiti. The Clintons and their cronies (as well as her brother) "literally" made a killing in that cause now didn't they? slaphead

Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 08/02/16 08:09 AM

RebelArcher

Tue 08/02/16 08:22 AM

Case in point.....Haiti. The Clintons and their cronies (as well as her brother) "literally" made a killing in that cause now didn't they?

Let's not leave out Wall Street either....
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Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has received around $48.5 million from seven financial firms alone, compared to $19,000 donated to rival Donald Trump. WSJ markets editor John Carney joins Tanya Rivero to discuss why some Wall Street hedge fund are backing Clinton.
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/hedge-fund-money-48-5-million-for-hillary-clinton-19-000-for-donald-trump-1469784601

And thats just a drop in the bucket.....

Edited by RebelArcher on Tue 08/02/16 08:23 AM

msharmony

Tue 08/02/16 10:11 AM

it is disrespectful for a candidate to use an entire religion of people to invoke fear,,, that family had every business being on stage to point it out

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