Wow I can't believe you guys haven't got off it yet.

Obama met with Trump today. Trump told him hes trashing TPP!!
Obama agreed! It is officially dead! America! The man's not even on office and hes already kickin ***! So it will be 101 days!

i don't answer him, i never saw a point to it... but thanks, you hit the nail on the head...

blah, blah, blah... now you gunna blame the repubs on the repubs?

it's all opinions anyway, i'm actually surprised you liked 3...

The first hundred days, are only the beginning of greatness.

If you wont read what I say, and then verify that it is or isn't true, don't bother to comment.

Go back and look, since you apparently don't remember.

Simply saying "blah blah" is being insulting, without being responsive.

Already getting rid of bad legislation and he ain't even sworn in yet Gotta love that guy!
I watched Obama after his meeting with President Trump at the press conference. Obama had a stunned look. He couldn't believe he was inviting Trump to the W.H instead of Hillarious Clinton. He had the same stunned look he had during the '08 financial meltdown.

NEVER thought I would enjoy world news, so much.

It looks like , all the world leaders are lining up and bending over.

And, King Cyrus hasn't had his coronation yet

I could have sworn that the Democrats had a Majority in both Houses in the beginning of Obama's Reign,yet couldn't get anything done,courtesy of the Democrats,which was one of the reasons for the Landslide by the Republicans in the congressional Elections! !

he aint the only one,, a president elect, under investigation for fraudulent activity in his business WHILE and after being elected


they both look stunned honestly, I don't think Trump ever wanted or expected to be in the position

Doesn't much matter.. the " audience" is past this.. the election is in the books.. time to move on ;)

insulting? maybe try saying something original rather then the same ole republican hating dribble... the term limits on the senate needs to happen, as well as lobbying part, even tho i think he should just stop lobbying altogether... the congress/senate are just getting richer off these things without helping the people out, who BTW are there because/for the people, as you seem to be forgetting...

In January, Trump will be sworn in. There is a ceremony that takes place, and then he is the President.

thats what is supposed to happen... we have to wait and see if obarry declares martial law from the riots he and soros are causing...

They did, and they certainly didn't bother to do anything to change how the POTUS is chosen.
I don't recall Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid wanting to eliminate the Electoral College.
Perhaps that is because there was no need to do that.
There is still no need to do that.

I try to actually be logical and level headed and fair

slavery had its time
jim crow had its time
maybe the electoral college will too

,its yet to be seen,,,,when Trump thought he was losing he was for eliminating it too

I believe mostly the increased occurrence of electoral and popular not matching up is causing an accelerated concern for its usefulness

The election system isn't broke.. no reason to change it. Both sides know the system.. full well. Both sides know what states are key.. which ones they need to win.. no secrete there. As do the American people.

Both sides know the rules and accept them.

The only ones who really have a problem with it are some people ( not all) that lose.. by the rules.

Some accept it, some can't. Even thought the rules were o.k. when they thought their candidate would win.

That's like arguing balls and strikes with the umpire.. when you knew the rules going into the game.

Don't like the rules.. don't play.

If you lose.. by the rules.. that's the way it goes.

IMO people don't really understand districts.

If a state has 200k people divided into 4 districts of 50k.
The state automatically gets 2 senators = 2 electorals.
Each district has 1 U.S. representative (in this scenario) = 4 electorals.
Total of 6 electoral votes available.
District 1 votes 30k for trump, 20k for hillary.
District 2 votes 30k for trump, 20k for hillary.
District 3 votes 30k for trump, 20k for hillary.
District 4 votes 0 for trump, 50k for hillary.
Total "popular" vote for that state 90k for trump, 110k for hillary.
But 3/4 of the districts voted for Trump.
Most states have "winner take all." Trump wins 3/4 districts = 6 electoral votes go to trump.
Some states have winner take all, apportioned, so trump gets 4.5, rounded to 5, and Hillary gets 1, or 4 and 2.

You are considered part of a represented district. Not a sovereign individual in a state only consisting of statewide boundaries, one among a mob of people. Let's say you're Rhode Island. Your mob is far smaller than the mob in California, or Arizona, or New York.
Without the electoral college bigger states make your votes pointless. The electoral college makes your states votes matter just as much as any other state.

The "increased occurrence of electoral and popular not matching up" is a bogus claim. It rarely happens. This is maybe the 5th, 6th time it has ever happened. Not enough occurrences to claim an "increase."
If you want to see an increase and blame anything, then blame the crap out of people breeding, increasing state populations and therefore the number of representatives and thereby electorals. Blame the retiree's living longer, becoming more conservative, and flooding the cities that were predominantly "liberal" as they retire.

As a side, why do you "really" think Obama's HUD wants to force "more affluent" neighborhoods to become more diversified? Force more low income and section 8 housing to be built in certain area codes?
Or support "sanctuary" cities that increase the population?
You really believe it's for the children and opportunity and racial lovey dovey?
Always a loophole. Helps to get around things like "gerrymandering."
But no, of course politicians don't do things like that, try and manipulate the political field in such a way to favor themselves.
Nope.
They're all altruistic and just want the best for you and it never even occurs to them how it will affect the bigger picture politically.



Which should scare you.
If people don't see the value of the electoral college, then they don't understand it.
It actually helps make your vote matter, your representatives matter, and your community matter.