I'm suspicious of this characterization. There is a violent semi-organized group called antifa that just loves violent action. They thrive on it.

Consider the violent gangs in some cities which convert black youth to develop a taste and love for violence. The antifa do something similar to middle class kids, mostly white youth. The goals are different, but some parts of the dynamic are the same.

Yes, Spencer often says horrible, deeply offensive things. But that's only one part of the equation regarding this violence. Responsibility for the violence does not rest at Spencer's feet, and we shouldn't ignore the culture of violence at work with the antifa.

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Everyone here seems to agree on these points, and I think that's wonderful. There is a mass ideological indoctrination process going on in universities right now which is completely opposed to free speech. They *say* they support free speech, but in reality its only if they get to decided what is allowed to be said.

This is why so many people are being de-platformed. Currently, its being done by liberals. But imagine if conservatives did it, too. Imagine if liberal speakers were simply not allowed to speak in conservative areas.

This is a wonderfully tolerant and respectful attitude to have towards others and their views. On the whole, I think we were moving in the direction of this kind of healthy attitude for most of the last 50-60 years, and only recently have we started regressing.

When did Mr. Spencer stand on a corner and screech about killing black babies? Until he does, maybe he shouldn't be considered racist because king shabazz isn't considered a racist...

I believe there is a misunderstanding about what freedom of speech means,,,there is no place that anyone should have to allow people to say whatever they want

freedom of speech only refers to legal ramifications and congress


in my home, I can make rules of what is appropriate and welcome and that is true anyplace we go,,,, the people paying the bills get to decide , whether it is the parents and taxpayers in a school, or the hosts of an event,,,,

its not liberal or conservative, its just 'preference' for those who pay the bills,,,,

I have seen enough Fox to know that conservatives are not exempt from catering speech to their preferences,, like anyone else,,,

shabazz is barely even known,, but definitely not NOT considered racist

so I gather if a white guy says anything remotely close to a racist statement, he's forever known as a everyone but white hating racist, where the leader of the black panthers can yell on a public corner yelling about killing white babies and not be considered racist? I can't take anything black people seriously because of dumb crap like this....

I think you should re read what was posted,,,,,

and I have never argued that racism is exclusive to having to 'hate' anyone,,,

Shabazz is a racist and talks about the evil white man. No different than the other racist preaching the same. They are no di#erent than the white supremacist. How is black power different then white power? Where is Asian power? Jewish power, etc?

Racism isn't exclusive to whites

You are absolutely positively right. Nothing more then ANOTHER race baiting thread.

a relief from the numerous religious and citizenship and anti liberal or anti government 'baiting' threads,,, Id say


good thing there is choice to create our own and participate or not,,,,,

you may.. but many other don't... race baiting

and frankly when some talk only of their race... its... boring

So in time you will be talking amongst yourselves..because people are sick of it... as you can clearly see is happening already.

by all means.. talk away.. the audience is slipping away :)

The better issue is why did Trump through and executive order remove all surveillance of white supremacist groups. The fbi stated that you had a seven times greater chance of being killed by a supremacist than a Muslim. Where is the outrage after Trump attempted to stop Muslim from six countries all those who supported Trump could say if an American dies because of a person from one of these countries, then the judge is guilty of murder. How come you do not apply that logic to Trump as one American died in New York from a white supremacist/

truth be told, there is an 'audience' for every topic, whether it be Islam, citizenship, or race

although each audience has their own biases that may be more welcome to some topics than others,,, audiences are not hard to find,,,

any sub dividing of the citizenry leads to discrimination

we are americans

and better yet earthlings

and tall and short, and white and black, and ohioans, and nevadans, and english speakers and bilingual and trilingual, and philosophy or education majors, ,,

and many more groups and sub groups that are a part of categorizing the billions on the earth,,,,

nothing wrong with those categories, they are reality, if they are used to point out subtle similarities and differences and not to oppress or dehumanize,,,,