Another sad story in the news today of a child killing themselves, only 8 years old, after being bullied in school.

Are we doing enough to teach our kids coping skills? Would we be better served with more emphasis in coping skills education than 'alternate lifestyles' education?

now that 'employment' is more and more a mandate for everyone regardless of marital status or parental status and children often spend much more time with teachers than they are able to with parents

is it time for schools to reinforce social skills like the golden rule and coping skills for those times when children are faced with those who suck at the golden rule?

I imagine the school will be sued and held accountable, and I am not sure how much accountability they have for a childs choice to do such a thing(the bullying or the suicide).


This goes back to my previous thread on responsibility towards each other,, how much responsibility do we have as adults in this world towards children who still have so much to learn and so much developing to do?

This is very sad. We have similar situations over here, some are with gender, I can't remember exactly but a child of about 6 wanted to change sex . along with other issues people are always looking to blame others.
When did it become other people's responsibility rather than the parents?
Also I think the Internet is a big factor in these issues . The innocence has been taken away from the very young.

I believe it always has or should have been a social responsibility towards kids because not all parents have the tools or resources or knowledge to do what is in their best interest and some may actually harm them

making a child makes you a parent, but it does not necessarily guarantee you will be someone that does what's in the child's interests,,,,


I do agree about the internet and mass media removing innocence to appease the lowest standards and how that has done plenty of damage to kids who (in this age of technology) are bombarded with it...

Sure, it is so easy to create a human being and happens to often by accident. I'm not even sure more education would change that when young adults seem oblivious to it or just to ignorant!
I have 2 great nieces age 5 and 8
They are always asking uncle mike have you got a girlfriend?
A couple of weeks ago they asked me again, I replied no so the 5 years old girl said I should try 'match. Com!
It is all our responsibility to a degree but definitely comes down to the parents, if they don't have the basic skills or common sense then they shouldn't have them. In the UK single parents by choice are a massive strain on the welfare system. Admitted than a few can't be helped either through death of a partner or other unforseen happenings.

that is an interesting concept 'single parent by choice' , do you mean women who are artificially inseminated?


Once the children are here, I Belive they become society's responsbility as well as the parents,,,

No, via a one night stand lol or something like that. I understand what you say about social responsibility but it is ultimately the parents responsibility to over look such things as Internet access and pier pressure. At school then the teacher's have the responsibility.
Then there is the job of advertising products.

agreed

It used to be the case that if a young girl got pregnant here they would be given a flat or house so many would do just for that, I'm not sure but I think it's changed now.

Kids killing themselves because of bullying is becoming common occurrence, which is startling.

We had bullies growing up but they were always called out by someone in the older group and they wound up stopping what they were doing or getting their a** kicked. My point being that we ( as a generation) didn't really tolerate that, were I grew up anyway.

But

We did not have the internet either. Now, these bullies are using social media to bully.. to spread rumors to the masses. And that is almost impossible to stop.

The internet.. technology is a factor in kids committing suicide.

Maybe.
What exactly are coping skills.
And do you believe they will magically help kids cope with bullying.
Or is it for bullies to cope with whatever is causing their desire to bully.


Hmmm...would we be better served with more emphasis in coping skills education, forcing kids to attend prison like institutions for 12+ years of their childhood where authority figures force them to work and learn new ways and interact with undesired peers, in order to cope with people "bullying" them?

Sure.

Otherwise IMO we're better off without either, and the department of education.


"King of the hill" is the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I knock you off this hill because that is what I'd have you do to me. I believe I'm better than you, unless you knock me down and prove otherwise. I believe this hill is my property, mine, unless you prove it is yours. I would have you try to knock me off, your attempts validate my being on this hill, that it's mine, I deserve it, and I'm better than you.

The "golden rule" is not a good rule. It's why we have other laws.
The "golden rule" only works in a static culture where there is the accepted assumption that everyone wants the same thing, idealizes the same things, roles are predefined and enforced (ruling class, lower class) with no social mobility, and there is an ultimate authority figure (god) that has decreed what is "good" and makes people "happy."

The "golden rule" does not work in a culture heavily reliant upon competition for "success."

You cannot have capitalism without competition.
If you don't want capitalism, I don't think you understand it and probably only see it as it's been subverted now by cronyism and other 'isms.


Not much.
People don't want responsibility.
That's why there are schools, daycares, police, child protective services, a whole system, that continues to grow, to keep people from having to have responsibility towards themselves or others.

That's why there are so many threads of "what can we do, what should we do, what should they do, why can't they do," rather than "this is what I'm going to do."

Imagine being 8 years old and even thinking of suicide, let alone carrying it out.

Can't begin to imagine the turmoil their little mind was in, so sad


Edit, I should have added, they're having a huge clamp down on bullying here in the U.K. If it's enough I'm not sure.
I asked my daughter who will leave school soon if anyone in her school gets bullied and she was horrified and said no. So maybe it's working.
But we still do get the odd child committing suicide but I don't recall anyone as young as 8.
The unfortunate thing these days is, there's no escape even after the school day has finished with social media.

this will happen when you turn generation after generation into a bunch of sissies...bullies have always existed when I was a kid one or a group would beat their a$$ and then it stopped....kids these days are screwed when they're teaching em s%#t like more than 2 genders exist and to tolerate every stupid thing they encounter in life...no balls...my question is how did the kid do it? u have any info on that? and wtf were the parents doing about any of it

Rather than argue this as being about inherent responsibility, perhaps we could ask the question, do you want to accept this kind of occurrence, on the grounds that you are not currently officially legally responsible?

Very sorry to hear at a young age ... maybe a investigation will happen ... not sure of it all ... a better way to this kind of abuse if those under pressure of other kids ...they should be told by adults to go talk to the social worker ASAP an most schools have ... unless they cut them out ... but I have found that helps children that are all involved ...