Voter Fraud and Sanctuary Cities in America

Voter fraud does exist as recently exposed by undercover FBI agents in California. Any illegal can obtain a 3-pack in areas where they live. The cost is a mere $100-300, depending on quality. It consists of: a work permit, driver license, and a fake SSN number. Usually, these documents are received within 1-2 days. They give the impression to those who fail to carefully look, the person is a U.S. citizen or legally here. The work permit allows them to complete for jobs real Americans apply for as does the SSN. Most voter registration will accept the SSN and driver license, yet, there is NO way those registering voters can verify that either is legitimate. They look at them and sign them up even though they are not U.S. citizens. There are millions of those here legally with their Green Cards, SSN, work permit. If they are asked if they are citizens, and they say "yes", there is NO way the voter registrar can verify this at that time.

So, to say, there is no voter fraud is laughable. The issue is to what extent is the problem and finding this out is equally difficult. It would require so much effort and time, many think it is not worth the effort. The undercover FBI agents state that when illegals are apprehended, it is more likely than not, they will possess a voter registration card based on their fake SSN and license. That is a startling find.

For 300$ depending on the quality? With those forgeries, they can register to vote? Doesn't anyone chq the numbers and match em up?? Not much effort to fix that.

Up until recently (10 yrs or so) they wouldn't even ask for ID at the polls up here, which really sounds absurd now, I think we're on the right path lol

Yea, you think the way they dress would give em away.

ummmm...am I missing something? Are authorities in Cali that stupid? If someone has a work permit and/or green card they can't be citizens, Being here legally is not enough to be able to vote. Are they REALLY asking people with Green Cards if they are citizens???

[don;t know whether to laugh or cry]

I think its laughable to think people intentionally break the law just to vote,,,so many who have the birthright don't even care to

not saying it doesn't happen, but its got to be so rare as to not be nearly the issue its made to be

Well if every vote matters, even one illegal vote is unacceptable. IMO

I probably agree with you though, It could never be organized on such a massive scale to sway election results, but then again, I heard dead ppl we're casting ballots, that's pretty bad.

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No it isn't. Many states now include "check this box for a voter ID card" when you get a license. Add on, that most people who do try to arrange for fake ID's, get as many different ones as they can, because people who ask for ID's, often want more than one.

In the history of voter fraud in the US, the closest there has been to any nationwide attempt, has been when one of the parties or the other, actively tries to prevent large segments of the population from voting. Such as passing laws to make it harder to get registered, or make it harder to vote in absentia, and so on.

There have been lots of local efforts to affect a single state, though none have been proven to have occurred recently. Right now, the biggest problem we have with voter fraud, is entirely legal voters attacking each other suspiciously over the possibility of it. That has led to unnecessary or ineffectual new laws being put into place in a knee-jerk reaction to unsubstantiated fears, and thereby "accidentally" blocking legal voters.

Several localities prevented a lot of military people from voting in the last election, because the lawmakers panicked or went into self-righteous mode. And to prevent what they only SUSPECTED was a lot of people voting in advance, or using absentee ballots when they really didn't have to, they put so many limits and barriers in front of them, that the legitimate voters were unable to get theirs.

There is voter fraud and has gone on for a while. I think they are just now being able to look into it. It's not an easy see because it involves a bit of time to sort it out. With Trump now in office and an aggressive
Justice Dept. that will change things.

yes, it will change things unless it doesn't prove to get them the votes next time

than there will be another red herring

Like the red herring the Democrats been chasing or the other one
called impeachment? It's fun to see the Dems imploding

why is it anymore or less a red herring than when the reps went after Clinton?

I mean, at least Trump is accused of something that has to do with potential national safety, and not lies about oral sex which impacts NOONE politically or nationally.

Looks like the Dems are still a little butt hurt over the loss of the big money grab..aw too bad so sad First of all I can't figure out how one could have a sanctuary city unless you could guarantee you can keep them within that city because after all not all cities consider themselves to be sanctuary cities and one must respect..Second

In my opinion this whole Russian deal is about drawing attention from the Clinton's and their nefarious ways..

Third They say if illegals break the law then they are deported hello theyre illegal they've already broken the law

Fourth if you don't have universal healthcare it's because out of all YOUR money goes to and all those foreign countries and the money that comes up mysteriously lost or ripped off due to lack of oversight or in someones pocket or stolen misappropriated... it's not allocated for your healthcare..


And last but not least why oh why are we so worried about funding the insurance companies when we should be funding the hospitals..the only thing insurance companies do is insure they make a profit while insuring you don't get the help you need..



there I said it like it or not

How nice to tell us that which has been going on for over tens years now. Now show us that you have proof that they are using those items to vote rather than obtain a job?

You cannot.

Investigations all over the place prove it without a Shadow of a doubt!

Bubba was impeached on a Perjury-Charge,not for smoking that Cigar!

Hence they'd better not let Trump speak under oath. He'll lie about a LOT more than whether or not he messed around with an intern, which is what Clinton was impeached for. Again, nothing whatsoever to do with the governance of the United States.

We'll see, though. I'm betting that nothing will come of this, because whereas Bill Clinton was facing a Republican Congress, which wanted to overturn the election they thought they should have won, Trump is facing a Congress that is more or less on his side (being at least nominally the same party).

Historically, impeachment has ALWAYS been an entirely partisan game.

funny..the ex just said something the other day
that his city might become a sanctuary city

better you than me

I'm just wondering why the Dems and libs don't want voter fraud investigations? I would think every American would want to be
sure that voter fraud doesn't happen. Their reaction to just a mention
of investigation is puzzling. Do they have something to hide?
Maybe transparency is still just a word for them.

They were all for it when Bush won Florida.

You must have missed reading a lot of the news. EVERYONE wants rigged elections dealt with. Where people differ, is in what KIND of rigging they want to address (or ignore, in some cases).

No one has proven that any LARGE SCALE voter fraud has occurred, only that here and there, some people voted who should not have. Both Republicans and Democrats have been caught doing so.

Demanding big changes in the laws, to fix problems that are only ALLEGED to have occurred, is a tough sell, no matter what side you are on.

IDs or voter cards would settle it, at least more than now