When people think and write about "The Military" they often use combat references. The fact is that around eighty percent of people in "the military" never serve in any kind of combat environment. Most are technicians, administrators, and other "support" type personnel. The U.S. armed forces employs people from all walks of life. That includes racists, rapists, thieves, closet homosexuals, outright bigots, and borderline psychotics. There is no reason not to add transgenders to the list.

You have a LOT of things wrong here, ciretom. Slaves WERE prohibited from learning to read, and anyone who taught them, was considered a criminal.

Women's property rights DID have to wait a very long time to be equal to men in the US.

Tom4youhere: I think you have missed something with your thought ""If its not working - go back to what worked." Mainly, there's no evidence that something serious was NOT working in the military recently, but much more important, there IS no "what worked" in the past. Everything was covered up and hidden in the past.

In short, it's another case where "the Good Old Days" never actually happened.

As for the main thrust of the thread, rights is, and always has been a very confusing area. It's become extremely confusing in the last few decades. The best way I would describe it is less of a reversal, and more of a wildly confused battle with poor or not leadership on every side. For too long now, some significant people have been using the idea of RIGHTS, to push various agendas and goals that actually have nothing to do with Rights, or at least are made more difficult to deal with under the idea of Rights.

Not to mention, that we have Rights being undone, because someone DID link some behavior to some important Right, and the backfire happened when that non-Right concern had to be addressed negatively, dragging the Right down with it.

I agree with your reasoning but all the people that are serving in active service, that went thru boot camp, are subject to combat service if called upon to do so. It is what you signed your life on the line for. Make no mistake about it, If you are ordered to combat - you will go to combat, no matter your designation.
If you have no will to follow your orders, you should be removed/not accepted. Orders are not subject to acceptance. Its not a matter of asking will you it is a matter of telling YOU WILL.

I agree with your reasoning but all the people that are serving in active service, that went thru boot camp, are subject to combat service if called upon to do so. It is what you signed your life on the line for. Make no mistake about it, If you are ordered to combat - you will go to combat, no matter your designation.
If you have no will to follow your orders, you should be removed/not accepted. Orders are not subject to acceptance. Its not a matter of asking will you it is a matter of telling YOU WILL.

not just about the trannies, it's also about harmony of the services themselves... if half the military quits because they let gays/trannies in the military, they lose very good and well trained people.. didn't Spock say once "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"...you cannot force acceptance, regardless of what the liberals think...

Homosexuals have been in the military since armies were invented. Regardless of what right wing prognosticators of nonsense say, the armed forces of the U.S. is in no way going to lose half it's personnel over sexual orientations. The same erroneous logic was used when the issue was letting blacks drive tanks and fly airplanes, and by the same sort of extremist right wing bigots.

there's a reason why slaves were not taught to read and write... knowledge is power, and slaves need no power...


and, btw, having to wait to by a home is not the same as "cannot own a home"...

So, you're saying you approve of refusing education by race, and limiting women's financial rights to being below all males?

knowing what is going on in the world requires us to use our brain,,,

unless we are inanimate/property which does no work and has no used or ability to utilize knowledge...

and it was in the 1800s that women 'won' rights like being able to own homes in their own names,

knowing what is going on in the world requires us to use our brain,,,

unless we are inanimate/property which does no work and has no used or ability to utilize knowledge...

and it was in the 1800s that women 'won' rights like being able to own homes in their own names,

Heck, we aren't the same since yesterday,,lol

the world keeps spinning and changing,,,

knowing what is going on in the world requires us to use our brain,,,
unless we are inanimate/property which does no work and has no used or ability to utilize knowledge...

and it was in the 1800s that women 'won' rights like being able to own homes in their own names,