ActionLynx,

Hey buddy yes it is flawed but still necessary. When i say this article on CNN.com i knew this would be a mega hit. My george America has done it again.....lol. As far as you living in a rural neighborhood well i can relate. In Berlin where I'm from i lived in a suburban neighborhood of Stieber Lieb which is mixed white and black Germans. Fars as America i grew up in a predominantly Spanish neighborhood. I seen the good the bad and the ugly. I seen spanish people get the same affirmative action with being bi linguistic. They would get jobs because they speak spanish. Didnt bother me .

dont forget thats how we move forward. Bless not curse.

MilesOfTheUSA

Hello yes you right. Excellent on the money. Not to dwell on scripture let me ask you this. Okay in scripture when god say in the time of turmoil in babylon come out of her. What heavenly father meant by that? Well he meant babylon is america come out of her is the cities. Fleet to the mountains during time of turmoil

I get what his claim is, I question his leap of logic. He pretended to be black, he got in. This does not mean he got in BECAUSE they thought he was black. As mentioned before, he applied to 22 schools and 11 interviewed him.Of those 11, one accepted him. THat seems par for the course and nothing that is exceptional or suspect, to me.

Ms Harmony,

Hello good morning. Out of his own mouth he said he got in. Go to CNN.com scroll down to near bottom of the page .....whhhaaalllaaah the article there. He claim to do this to show America affirmative action still alive.

No. I know what you mean EyeAM. What I am saying is that the REASON he got in is not clear. I could have worn the same pink socks to every interview, and after 11, when one FINALLY Accepted me, I could claim it was because of the pink socks, but everyone would see through the leap of logic. I see a leap of logic in his conclusion as well. IT is fact he pretended to be black, it is fact that one school finally accepted him. It does not follow that the reason they accepted him is because they thought he was black.

Actually, during the interview he argued the case for Affirmative Action being unnecessary. He uses UCLA as a case in point. But he also does admit that Affirmative Action has real and legitimate purpose. His point is that there are people who abuse and misuse that consistently slip through the cracks. In fact, his current work is advising prospective students throughout the admissions process. So he sees quite a lot of what really happens behind the scenes. By bringing up UCLA (which he says does not use Affirmative Action), he mentions that it is possible for an institution of higher learning to establish and maintain a student body that is diverse not only racially and ethnically but also economically.

ActionLynx,

See i just leaned something......great data.

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lets look at history to UNDERSTAND the human potential for good and bad, it does not 'form' the present but it does INFORM it,,,,

Ecclesiastes 1:9 ESV

What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.

Ms Harmony,

Thats my best voicer......
Her. Knowledge is superior.

IMO Affirmative Action had a well needed place at one time. With segregation and racism dominating. But it seems, to me, that these days it has been racial. There are now special tv channels for black, awards for blacks....etc. That is segregating even more instead of uniting

Keep in mind that Affirmative Action was intended to promote fairness. The question discussed in the interview was whether it is now promoting unfairness and inequality.

For instance, CNN questions the percentage of Harvard University's student body that is Asian. They then ask, when doe its become too much? There was a higher percentage of Asians than Latinos and African-Americans.

Of course, nobody questions how many of those Asians were foreign students and how many were Asian-American citizens, which are two different demographics when trying to create a diverse student body. There are whole programs set up to recruit foreign students with separate scholarships and grants just for them.

African-Americans are not the only demographic that can invoke Affirmative Action. He mentions that he knew of a people who claim heritages such as Native American just because one person 6 generations ago in the family was Native American....and the school never questioned it.

Part of what was being hinted is that this may be part of a backlash. Students are now afraid they might not get into a school based on their own race or ethnicity. So now they lie on their applications to counter and offset that fear. Whether the institutions were picking up on this was also questioned by bringing up the percentage of Asian students at Harvard. If abuse was truly out of control, CNN expected to see higher percentages of Latinos and African-Americans, but instead those numbers were in step with population statistics. The Asian number was the one that didn't fit.

YelloRose,

Ms. Yellow Rose can i tell you why blacks have B.E.T.. The Spanish has Univision. The Koreans have there channels? Okay let say this. BET was created because black people felt like there tv shows, movies, award shows, news & cooking shows wasnt getting enough attention. So somebody came with the ideal to showcase there own entertainment. Latino felt the same way. Dont get me wrong i know some white families watch just enough BET like blacks. I know some white audiences watch more Empire than me and i dont watch Empire. White Tv pick one
ABC, Fox, NBC, and many more. You guys have just as much tv as us. Tv today is more ethnic i agree with you. Lets take the oscar awards. When the last time you seen a goid mixture of the oscar winners or nominees?

I can tell you too. But face it, if it was white tv/awards/ whatever...it would be racist.

How about James Earl Jones? Hattie McDaniel? There are many great actors that aren't white

YellowRose,

Yes mainstream tv is racist on a smaller scale. You mentioned Hattie Mcdaniel. She play a black maid. James earl jones. Love him to death. His early roles was menstrual. It wasnt until the movie great white hope and star wars his roles got better. I even think black tv today is menstrual.
Think about Tyler Perry Madea. Through out all the Madea Plays and movies she spends a large amount of time bashing men. Look at Dave Chappelle show. It was destined to be shut down. It made fun of not just blacks but everybody. Now shows like cosby show was epic because it shed a light on a good family. Nobody on drugs. Nobody gang banging. The mom was successful the dad was too. I think jerry springer show make good white folks look terrible.

Well Tyler Perry is a man. If blacks are doing this (btw...I love Tyler Perry) blame them. Still doesn't change the racism

Affirmative Action was needed (and still needed to an extent) but if people expect things not to be about race, then don't create or continue thinga that promote race

According to the article I posted from the OP...the guy said he did this in the 90s to prove racism

YellowRose
Oh i love his stuff too but it is subliminal.yes he a man but when he plays Madea its a character that nip pick on men of color. But like u say the point is affirmative action. Let me ask America this. As a black american german put it like this lets say Apple or Google main operation wants to hire me lets say management in sales. I get a memo to meet the CEO. Now i meet the CEO and hes making sure i feel comfortable. I ask him sir i dont know if i can do this position. Maybe you want to hire someone will more experience. Lets say mr EyeAm you doing a great service for this company. So knowing me i may ask sir why do i have this position? He may say well without you and a few others we wouldnt be able to operate. So affirmative action is the reason why i am here? Well.....thats not important. You like your desk? Yeah its cool you like making all that money? Yeah who wouldnt.you like what u do? Yes.honestly i wouldnt be offended at all. That could be my foot in the door.

I would add we have had White Entertainment TV for the majority of tv's history. when something is a 'given' it does not need to be stated. BET is not a given. One cannot assume when they turn on the television they will easily find a show with black folks as the main characters. BET is a way for people that are looking for that type of entertainment to find it more easily because it is not the 'given'.

And as far as affirmative action being the reason people are hired, I disagree although I do believe it can be a reason people finally are given a fair and equal OPPORTUNITY to be hired. Affirmative action still requires everyone to be 'qualified'.