I do not do this as well as EyeAm, but I was reading (cool pasttime) a story about a proposed program to replace the current programs people refer to as 'entitlement' or 'free money' and get people working


To break it down, how I understand it, was that instead of the government 'giving free money' , reinvesting that money in employment

this is how it would work

last year, the US spent roughly 931 billion on 'entitlement' program
-i am not including medicare or Social security in this figure
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52408


according to the last census there are 323 million citizens


if we divide that spending with the population we get a per capita spending of roughly 29000

so we know that more than that is spent if we consider JUST those who are on the rolls, as not every citizen receives this spending



so, the program would work by guaranteeing EMPLOYMENT instead, by putting people to work and PAYING them for their work( the current system has programs that put people in jobs in return for their under minimum wage monthly benefit) at at least 20,000 per year

this would dispel the concern about people getting money for 'nothing' and the myth of 'generational welfare' elevating recipients to merely mutually employed citizens earning a living doing necessary 'government' type jobs like fixing and building infrastructure, teaching, or processing paperwork within the different government department



I love the idea not only that the whiners about 'money for nothing' would be silenced, but that we would be making our country assets even stronger in the process(infrastructure, education, the flow of government)
and at less cost than is currently called for...

Humm how are they going to Guarantee them work???

Can't make Employer's hire those that are not experienced and the Government sure can't create that many jobs??

Besides where do you think the money comes from to do this??? Yep they will raise taxes again we are paying for their living?

Honestly not well thought out on where those jobs and money to pay for those jobs will come from if the government creates them they will have to pay for them..

I actually explained about the money already

it would replace and REDUCE the money already invested with tax money on 'entitlements'

it would come from the same place, be the SAME MONEY, but less of it ...

they could guarantee employment the same way they already do when they run ads for open positions in GOVERNMENT employment positions,

there is plenty of that work available

We have a similar thing here. benefits. I've always thought why don't they get people cleaning up the streets and pay them at least you'd get something for the money. But I don't think we can make them work, probably a leftie law

I think most people want to work but for a LIVING WAGE,, its hard to go from poverty to 'working' for continued poverty...

working requires resources like, time, energy, and travel,,,,people want to pay bills after accounting for the expenses of the resources they are required to invest...

I think if paying jobs at a decent wage were offered or even guaranteed, people would flock to it,, and the numbers show that it would actually DECREASE the taxes required to maintain it,,,,

I disagree, many are to lazy and get to much support for nothing. ok a living wage is ok but don't forget the price of things we buy dictate the wages, so unless you're prepared to pay more it's not going to happen.

we have to agree to disagree

I believe many are lazy, but I don't believe many get 'too much' support for nothing...

I am prepared to pay more if I make more,,, more people working is more people spending,, so more people can work

it sustains itself

That is the problem. You won't and nor will anyone else pay more, if that were the case then you and we wouldn't import so much that could be made at home.

You nor I have any real input into importation...

When I was a kid, I only paid for things at the dollar store

as I grew older, made more, I shopped at pricier places

Ms Trump does not buy her clothes from SEARS

,,yes, the more we make, the more we are willing to pay ....

The Trumps have their own money. She can dress how she wants. When has it been a crime?

I have always been a cheap buyer. I still have clothes from high school. I have worked my butt off scrubbing toilets. I don't find fault with those with money. I do find fault with those that can work but don't

okay.

noone said anyone was committing a crime.

the point was being made about whether making more money, or any money at all, impacts WHAT we are willing to pay.


I find this program appealing because it ends the reality of 'trying' to find work at a decent pay by GUARANTEEING it is there and it decreases what is spent on WELFARE at the same time, and it removes the whining about how that money is being 'free money for nothing' and it improves not only our physical infrastructure but our economic (the more people make the more they can spend)

You brought up Ms Trump doesn't buy her clothes at Sears

So what? They has money before.

the government will never do that, they would lose some control if they did...they want those people to need them, a dependent person is much more complaint...

Yes. I did. I did so to make the point about people being willing to spend more when they make more.

Of course we do!
Cars, parts for boing aircraft, clothing the list goes on. even cheap rubbish at the store! Clothing, cheap or a thousand $is mostly made in poorer countries

What does it matter where trump buys her stuff. you've just admitted that you went up market when you could afford it so makes you no different!

That's why I said I used to scrub toilet and even still have clothes from high school and it doesn't bother me

Who cares? She can afford it. Why hold it against her (hence it is not a crime)

Why should that be a point?

one never knows ....

Most people live to there means what ever the cost someone has made it so has been employed!