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Integrityis1st

Tue 10/10/17 10:41 AM

There's another problem people blinded by idolizing.

For eight years, members of the far Right tried to delegitimize the Presidency of Barack Obama by trying to prove that he wasn't constitutionally qualified to serve as POTUS. Now, the shoe is on the other foot.

and look at what the unqualified POS did to our great nation... racial strife, political division, 20 trillion dollars in debt... thanks to the lying left...

it is worth noting that 'racial strife' and 'political division' and 'trillions of debt' have been a part of the American Landscape long before Obama, thanks to human behavior, greed, and ego

Yea, but we weren't sending pallet loads of cash to
terrorist countries then either.

yellowrose10

Tue 10/10/17 10:54 AM

As people point out every time a new president comes in...it is the fall out of the previous. Trump hasn't even been in office for a year. Obama caused more racial division than anyone

Not even a year in, dealing with 8 yrs....come on

Edited by yellowrose10 on Tue 10/10/17 10:55 AM

apilgrim

Tue 10/10/17 10:55 AM

and look at what the unqualified POS did to our great nation... racial strife, political division, 20 trillion dollars in debt... thanks to the lying left...

it is worth noting that 'racial strife' and 'political division' and 'trillions of debt' have been a part of the American Landscape long before Obama, thanks to human behavior, greed, and ego

Yea, but we weren't sending pallet loads of cash to
terrorist countries then either.

Iran-Contra?

Serchin4MyRedWine

Tue 10/10/17 10:56 AM

Russian collusion has just as much 'evidence' as any of the aforementioned, according to the same 'intelligence' communities who presented their concerns and suspicions.

Exactly the opposite. Every intel head including the DNI(Director of National Intelligence) testified they saw no evidence of collusion. I guess you have better sources? Maybe NBC or CNN? LOL

Edited by Serchin4MyRedWine on Tue 10/10/17 11:01 AM

Integrityis1st

Tue 10/10/17 10:58 AM

We see and understand that, but try and get them to see noway

Integrityis1st

Tue 10/10/17 11:01 AM

and look at what the unqualified POS did to our great nation... racial strife, political division, 20 trillion dollars in debt... thanks to the lying left...

it is worth noting that 'racial strife' and 'political division' and 'trillions of debt' have been a part of the American Landscape long before Obama, thanks to human behavior, greed, and ego

Yea, but we weren't sending pallet loads of cash to
terrorist countries then either.

Iran-Contra?

I sure would've loved to see that drug transaction go down here in the states. What drug problem?

apilgrim

Tue 10/10/17 11:10 AM

Russian collusion has just as much 'evidence' as any of the aforementioned, according to the same 'intelligence' communities who presented their concerns and suspicions.

Exactly the opposite. Every intel head including the DNI(Director of National Intelligence) testified they so no evidence of collusion. I guess you have better sources?

The intelligence community wouldn't have anything to say legally as far as collusion goes... That's a legal, domestic matter (which law enforcement, usually the FBI, would take lead on) or a congressional impeachment matter (or a combination of both).

US intelligence agencies neither blankly operate within the domestic US nor enforce any domestic law on citizens or those who normally reside within the US.

That said though, intelligence community heads have publicly stated that Russian interference occurred in multiple ways. The specific question regarding collusion between the campaign and Russia is a legal matter though; we'll have to wait on hearing about - and so far Mueller isn't talking and the two congressional investigations have mostly gone non-public.

Argo

Tue 10/10/17 11:20 AM

as a dedicated reader and somewhat sporadic commentator in the
political threads for the past 4 years...i would like to offer
this comment, which i have seen countless times, no matter what
the topic/subject happens to be...

if i may paraphrase just a bit....

*******its ALL Trumps fault******

Serchin4MyRedWine

Tue 10/10/17 11:21 AM

Russian collusion has just as much 'evidence' as any of the aforementioned, according to the same 'intelligence' communities who presented their concerns and suspicions.

Exactly the opposite. Every intel head including the DNI(Director of National Intelligence) testified they so no evidence of collusion. I guess you have better sources?

What are you talking about? Russia collusion is not a domestic affair, it is between Trump and a foreign entity which the CIA,NSA and DNI have jurisdiction. Secondly The FBI, CIA and DNI have already Testified on this issue in public hearings so your statement that the intelligence agencies wouldn't have anything to say about it is False.

apilgrim

Tue 10/10/17 11:33 AM

and look at what the unqualified POS did to our great nation... racial strife, political division, 20 trillion dollars in debt... thanks to the lying left...

it is worth noting that 'racial strife' and 'political division' and 'trillions of debt' have been a part of the American Landscape long before Obama, thanks to human behavior, greed, and ego

Yea, but we weren't sending pallet loads of cash to
terrorist countries then either.

Iran-Contra?

I sure would've loved to see that drug transaction go down here in the states. What drug problem?

Sorry, not following... Iran-Contra resulted in actual indictments and trials against multiple people (12 US citizens in total; give or take - can't remember exactly) due to legal violations. The pallet loads of cash memes to Iran during the recent campaign were at most just memes aimed at low-information, emotional, type voters. I'm not aware that anything came from those memes in a legal sense anyway (and I'm not aware of any legal reason that they should).

apilgrim

Tue 10/10/17 11:41 AM

Russian collusion has just as much 'evidence' as any of the aforementioned, according to the same 'intelligence' communities who presented their concerns and suspicions.

Exactly the opposite. Every intel head including the DNI(Director of National Intelligence) testified they so no evidence of collusion. I guess you have better sources?

You don't understand, collusion has to be a domestic affair because it would take US citizens to do the colluding and be held accountable for it.

The CIA, NSA, etc are agencies which are constitutionally barred from investigating US citizens. And even so, they still have no powers of prosecution or arrest. Investigation, arrest, prosecution, etc has to be done by a law enforcement agency (usually the FBI) or politicians can be held accountable by Congress.

The DNI is not an agency - it's a person. Also, the FBI is not an intelligence agency, it's a domestic law enforcement agency (federal).

Edited by apilgrim on Tue 10/10/17 11:46 AM

alleoops

Tue 10/10/17 11:54 AM

and look at what the unqualified POS did to our great nation... racial strife, political division, 20 trillion dollars in debt... thanks to the lying left...

it is worth noting that 'racial strife' and 'political division' and 'trillions of debt' have been a part of the American Landscape long before Obama, thanks to human behavior, greed, and ego

Yea, but we weren't sending pallet loads of cash to
terrorist countries then either.

Iran-Contra?

I sure would've loved to see that drug transaction go down here in the states. What drug problem?

with the difference being, weapons were sent to Nicaragua to fight
the Cuban aided communist forces there. The money sent to Iran by Obama? Who knows. Probably sitting on top of a missle in N.Korea
ready for launch.

msharmony

Tue 10/10/17 12:11 PM

and look at what the unqualified POS did to our great nation... racial strife, political division, 20 trillion dollars in debt... thanks to the lying left...

it is worth noting that 'racial strife' and 'political division' and 'trillions of debt' have been a part of the American Landscape long before Obama, thanks to human behavior, greed, and ego

Yea, but we weren't sending pallet loads of cash to
terrorist countries then either.

weren't we? Dont guns make people money?

msharmony

Tue 10/10/17 12:12 PM

We see and understand that, but try and get them to see noway

yes. all sides do the 'its someone elses fault'

and yes, having a BLACK PRESIDENT did force a spotlight on the previously hidden racial division, more than the status quo white leader does.

msharmony

Tue 10/10/17 12:14 PM

lol. No, its not all ANY one persons 'fault'

As Americans, it would behoove us to focus more on all the areas of RESPONSIBLITY that need to break down for certain problems to become problems and the reality that no ONE person will ever successfully be found to have all the control over those things, let alone all the 'responsibility' and therefore all of the 'fault'

alleoops

Tue 10/10/17 12:14 PM

Edited by alleoops on Tue 10/10/17 12:16 PM

apilgrim

Tue 10/10/17 12:15 PM

and look at what the unqualified POS did to our great nation... racial strife, political division, 20 trillion dollars in debt... thanks to the lying left...

it is worth noting that 'racial strife' and 'political division' and 'trillions of debt' have been a part of the American Landscape long before Obama, thanks to human behavior, greed, and ego

Yea, but we weren't sending pallet loads of cash to
terrorist countries then either.

Iran-Contra?

I sure would've loved to see that drug transaction go down here in the states. What drug problem?

The difference was that one act was covert and illegal and resulted in indictments - and the other was a very public flurry of memes that went nowhere except with partisan chicken-hawk politicians...

I'll give you credit for being imaginative in tying it in to NK though. =P