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EyeAmYourHost39

Thu 11/02/17 01:06 PM

Good Evening America, its been a while since my last post, I want to bring a funny but serious to some. America, let me ask you a question, remember that Wayans Bros. novelty comedy movie " White Chicks"? If you haven't seen the movie, it was about 2 black young undercover agents posing in costume as 2 white valley rich girls to impersonate the real " Tiffany" & " Britney" but at the same time the must stop a diamond thief. To me it was a very silly funny movie. It had a lot of big names like Terry Crews, & a few other A-listers. Okay, here's the problem, a college at a Massachusetts college are investing after students said a female soccer player attended an on-campus Halloween party with darkened skin to portray a character from the movie " White Chicks". America, follow me now, let's continue, The Sun Chronicle reports a photo taken Friday shows the women with her darkened skin by makeup, a drawn-on goatee & a bald cap. A Wheaton College spokesman called the costume " Offensive & racist" Michael Graca says the investigation could take two weeks but officials at the college in Norton have already met with students. Because of her actions she wasn't able to play soccer at a school game as discipline. America, is there a such thing as reverse Racism ? Remember back in the day the black face characters was waaayyyy too offensive right? But what if a black guys posing as white girls, is that the same Menstrual thinking as like " Black Face"? So let's talk about it. How do you feel about when comedians dress up in costume as other races, is the same stigma as in reverse?

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EyeAmYourHost39

Thu 11/02/17 01:17 PM

EyeAmYorHost39,

Well how I see it, well if playing a role in " Black Face " is offensive, the Playing "White Face" would be considered offensive too. When I look at the " Dave Chappelle Show" where he plays white characters all the time, in a lot of ways was stereo typical but it made a lot of people laugh. Racism & sex make some & break some. The both make a hit out of any entertainment or music. Remember Saturday Night Live, all my old schoolers know what I'm talking about before the shortening of SNL. Remember, Dana Carvey play " The Church Lady" he posted as white old Catholic church lady, and that skit was very funny. playing a white old church lady and playing another race is far not the same humor. I believe we live in a era where everything offends everybody. But at the same time we must watch how to be funny without using stereo types to make a point.

tombraider

Thu 11/02/17 01:22 PM

The line between intent and perception and those who are attempting to justify their perception as if it were intent,because that's what it would have to be in order to justify calling it offensive on the part of the comedian. But isn't most comedy subjective and not always appealing to all audience members ..which can be hard to do sometimes.

Some times it's just best to let things go and quit whining about everything that one perceives to be offensive ..and write it down as just bad taste if that's the way they feel. Seems to me people are too busy trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Personally I think it's all blown out of proportion but nonetheless.. expected

msharmony

Thu 11/02/17 01:26 PM

Hey Eyeam

I feel like details matter so it really depends.
For instance, lawrence olivia played othello, but it was a portrayal of a character who was complex and not a stereotype so it was not as offensive as a 'blackface' carricature of an ignorant mindless shuffling negro

similarly, Natalie Wood played a puerto rican in West side story, but again, the character was not a carricature of all the negative stereotypes , so it was not offensive

I believe it can be offensive when 'white' or 'black' are portrayed with only negative stereotypes and/or when one portrays white people with actual WHITE PAINT, or black people with actual BLACK PAINT, because few people come close to those skin colors.

College movies are similar, I remember the movie Soul man about a white guy pretending to be black, it was tastefully and not offensively done and was relevant to the story line (the white character cannot get into Harvard without some type of scholarship or aid, so pretends to be black )

I think White Chicks was the flip of soul man. where the black characters found themselves protecting white chicks who they had to pose as to keep them safe, it was done relevant to the story line and not offensive. Keep in mind they did not JUST play white, they also played females, even though they were black males.

back to the costumes for halloween, In this case its much ado about nothing in my opinion

I saw the photo and she actually 'dressed up' as an attractive black male, I dont get what the issue is, black children have been dressing up as white superheroes and villains for decades ...lol

Edited by msharmony on Thu 11/02/17 01:28 PM

EyeAmYourHost39

Thu 11/02/17 01:31 PM

TomBraider,

Welcome to this discussion, well Let say this, do white America when they see another race impersonate them, could they have the right to say" That's offensive". Think Of the movie" White Chicks" was that making fun of valley white girls?" I mean its not Sambo or Amos & Andy but I'm white, maybe conservative or blue collar type may look at the movie as making fun of there culture.

EyeAmYourHost39

Thu 11/02/17 01:36 PM

Ms Harmony,

Hey Baby girl , welcome back to this discussion. So you saying " White Chicks" was a reverse of C. Thomas Howell Movie" Soul Man"? I thought both movies was funny. I don't take offense to characters. Everybody knows playing a characters is total fiction. But at the same time I think we must not crossed boundaries that will hurt or offend another. One thing I like about the Dave Chappelle Show was he made fun of everybody including back people. Look at the character "Crack Head Tyrone" Then playing a undercover Klansman until they found out he was black,,,,,,that stuff is hilarious.

Unknow

Thu 11/02/17 01:42 PM

In the 60s and 70's we had a musical programme called the black and white minstrel show. white singers blacked up with white lips, I was young and didn't think anything of it but definitely wouldn't be acceptable now.
Also morgen freeman played god in a couple of films! Can't recall any protest against that?

msharmony

Thu 11/02/17 02:20 PM

lol, thats funny, cause God is not a white man or a black man, but an IMMORTAL being,, really wouldn't matter who played him.

Unknow

Thu 11/02/17 02:23 PM

That's assuming he is real of course!

msharmony

Thu 11/02/17 02:24 PM

that as well ... some do not believe He is real.

alleoops

Thu 11/02/17 02:38 PM

She should have taken Dolezol before the party. winking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtRlXHXg0A

tombraider

Thu 11/02/17 02:44 PM

personally I find Dave Chapelle funny whether he makes fun of whitey or not in the whole scheme of things it changes nothing ..and all races if not thin skinned can find humor in themselves ..unless of course if one has a different sense of humor.

Do you not find it odd that white chicks being a movie viewed by many of us whiteys was able to show but show up at a party made up white chick to look black and see what happens. ..whatever.. whoa

EyeAmYourHost39

Thu 11/02/17 03:08 PM

MIkey4YouSweety,

Hey , welcome to the discussion. Well today Menstrual Movies & TV still lives. Movies that portray blacks like fools I hate to name names but movies like " Soul Plane" with Snoop Dogg, " Don't Drink Your Juice In The Hood" starring the Wayans Bros., and I mean we can name dozens of movie that is Menstrual. Just like black people I think white America should say " No More White Portrayals". If you don't like it when we go black face than don't go white face. I mean its a fair request. We can't condemned white America for making comedy out of black face if we don't make the same offense to white America.

EyeAmYourHost39

Thu 11/02/17 03:10 PM

Ms. Harmony,

LOl....yes yahua & yahuasha isn't color by spiritual energy. Love, Compassion, understanding not a race. that's been killing the fiber of this country color codes & races.

msharmony

Thu 11/02/17 03:16 PM

I do agree we can do without white painted faces or black painted faces, skin tone colors, however, could be relevant to the role or portrayal.

Unknow

Thu 11/02/17 03:18 PM

Hi Eyam,
You see, we wouldn't have that sh#t over here either way.
Occasionally a black comedian will make fun of himself but that's it, and he does it in a way that makes racists look stupid

EyeAmYourHost39

Thu 11/02/17 03:18 PM

Alleoops,

White college student wanted to prove a point about black comedians making fun of being Valley White Chicks. So as a Halloween costume she wanted to be a black person. What make the situation crazy she on the schools soccer team and because of her costume she was discipline by not being about to play at the big game. Let's face it in this culture the movie makers or better yet the screen writes of movies that have black comedians playing white characters, sometimes they don't think about how it would make you feel but to make laughs. White America, yes they live different. Yes sometimes we may not identify with how they go about, but in my book , its not cool to make fun of one's culture.

msharmony

Thu 11/02/17 03:25 PM

but where is the line drawn between imitating individuals of a certain culture and making fun of the culture itself?

Edited by msharmony on Thu 11/02/17 03:26 PM

EyeAmYourHost39

Thu 11/02/17 03:28 PM

TomBraider,

Well I always find it that white America watches just as much B.E.T. as blacks. Look at hip hop now. Some of your best M.C's are White artist. White America always tuned in to black entertainment. They watch just as much as " In Living Color TV Show". Just as much " Empire on Fox", Just as much as Good Times Show " as us. the difference is when they watch these ethnic shows they watch it to learn our experiences. When we watch it, we can relate and we lived it.