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Soma_Ludicrisia

Tue 11/21/17 01:37 PM

Is there anyone here who leans towards the electric model of the universe over the standard gravitational model?

Just wondering if there are any like minds here.

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Tom4Uhere

Tue 11/21/17 04:18 PM


Is there anyone here who leans towards the electric model of the universe over the standard gravitational model?

Just wondering if there are any like minds here.

Electric Model? Please, explain a bit more on this.
I have heard of the Energy Universe over the Matter Universe?
That all matter is a form of energy.

Electricity is a the movement of electrons along a conductor.
Space is sparse for conducting matter.
Energy however exists at planck scales and vacuum energy exists in the vacuum of space.

There is a distinct difference between electricity and energy.
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Tom4Uhere

Tue 11/21/17 05:27 PM

Here's what I found out....

Electric Universe (EU) is an umbrella term that covers various pseudo-scientific cosmological ideas built around the claim that the formation and existence of various features of the Universe can be better explained by electricity and magnetism than by gravity alone. As a rule, EU is usually touted as an aether-based theory with numerous references to tall tales from mythology. However, the exact details and claims are ambiguous, lack mathematical formalism, and often vary from one delusional crank to the next.


The Aether-based Universe is romantic but scientifically implausible.

According to ancient and medieval science, aether (Greek: αἰθήρ aithēr), also spelled æther or ether, also called quintessence, is the material that fills the region of the universe above the terrestrial sphere. The concept of aether was used in several theories to explain several natural phenomena, such as the traveling of light and gravity. In the late 19th century, physicists postulated that aether permeated all throughout space, providing a medium through which light could travel in a vacuum, but evidence for the presence of such a medium was not found in the Michelson–Morley experiment, and this result has been interpreted as meaning that no such luminiferous aether exists.
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Tue 11/21/17 05:28 PM
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motowndowntown

Tue 11/21/17 09:54 PM

The electricians' prayer.

Volts amps watts ohms,

Please stay inside your copper homes,

And do not char my brittle bones.

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notbeold

Tue 11/21/17 11:52 PM

May the force be with you!

Since quantum mechanics, special theory of relativity, and all other theories are still only theories, anything is still possible to be true; the bibles of science are still slowly being written the hard way, with testing for scientific proof and reproducability; unlike the other bibles filled with outdated notions and plagiarised bits of other ancient creation stories.

You could lean in any direction and possibly still be right, so far. Nothing in science is set in stone yet, since we still know very little of anything for sure. The basic building blocks - atoms - are still full of mystery. Radiations can be waves and / or pulses. And the greater part of the universe, the dark stuff, is even more mysterious. spock
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Tom4Uhere

Wed 11/22/17 12:07 AM

Since quantum mechanics, special theory of relativity, and all other theories are still only theories

I agree with what you wrote with the exception of Quantum Mechanics.
Quantum mechanics is used in actual applications in the real world.
Theories are not.

Many modern electronic devices are designed using quantum mechanics. Examples include the laser, the transistor (and thus the microchip), the electron microscope, and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI).'

Researchers are currently seeking robust methods of directly manipulating quantum states.
Quantum is no longer a theory.

Solvable systems

The two-state quantum system (the simplest quantum system that can exist)
The free particle
The delta potential
The Double well Dirac delta potential
The particle in a box / infinite potential well
The finite potential well
The One-dimensional triangular potential
The particle in a ring or ring wave guide
The particle in a spherically symmetric potential
The quantum harmonic oscillator
The quantum harmonic oscillator with an applied linear field
The hydrogen atom or hydrogen-like atom e.g. positronium
The hydrogen atom in a spherical cavity with Dirichlet boundary conditions
The Hydrogen Molecular ion (Solutions in terms of generalized Lambert W function)
The particle in a one-dimensional lattice (periodic potential)
The Morse potential
The step potential
The linear rigid rotor
The symmetric top
The Hooke's atom
The Spherium atom
Zero range interaction in a harmonic trap
The Quantum pendulum
The Rectangular potential barrier
The Pöschl-Teller potential
The Inverse square root potential
The Lambert-W step-potential
Multistate Landau–Zener Models

~ wiki
Theories do not have solvable systems.

Many people think that human science is highly advanced but I liken it to the knowledge of a 2 year old. There is still 'oh so much' to learn.
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Tom4Uhere

Wed 11/22/17 12:19 AM

Chinese Scientists Just Set the Record for the Farthest Quantum Teleportation
http://www.livescience.com/59810-quantum-teleportation-record-shattered.html

they sent a packet of information from Tibet to a satellite in orbit, up to 870 miles (1,400 kilometers) above the Earth's surface.

More specifically, the scientists beamed the quantum state of a photon (information about how it is polarized) into orbit.

Not only did the team set a record for quantum teleportation distance, they also showed that one can build a practical system for long-distance quantum communications. Such a communication system would be impossible to eavesdrop on without alerting the users, which would make online communications much more secure.

A real-world application of Quantum Mechanics.

By comparison Unified Field Theory
continues to be a theory because new particles are still being discovered and those are unlocking theories for even smaller particles.
The main reason for CERN.



The Higgs Boson is but one of many newly discovered particles.

Gravitational Waves were a theory until scientists figured out a way to detect them.
Just because we know there are Gravitational Waves, doesn't mean we understand everything there is to know about them. Just like we don't know a lot about the sciences that we put to use.
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notbeold

Wed 11/22/17 12:59 AM

I like a quantum of solace ! Whatever that was supposed to mean. laugh
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Dodo_David

Wed 11/22/17 05:54 AM


Since quantum mechanics, special theory of relativity, and all other theories are still only theories, anything is still possible to be true


You are not using the scientific definition of theory.
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mightymoe

Tue 11/28/17 09:16 AM


Is there anyone here who leans towards the electric model of the universe over the standard gravitational model?

Just wondering if there are any like minds here.


I believe that all gravity is an electrostatic cause... My personal opinion, tho...
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lu_rosemary

Tue 11/28/17 02:12 PM

I would share my opinion ...but Is the
Universe complete..? Maybe it is just the gravitational force.,our planet is important to us with the good and the bad.
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mightymoe

Tue 11/28/17 02:16 PM


I would share my opinion ...but Is the
Universe complete..? Maybe it is just the gravitational force.,our planet is important to us with the good and the bad.
really, there's no good or bad in nature... just our labeling of things we like or don't like...
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lu_rosemary

Tue 11/28/17 02:17 PM



I would share my opinion ...but Is the
Universe complete..? Maybe it is just the gravitational force.,our planet is important to us with the good and the bad.
really, there's no good or bad in nature... just our labeling of things we like or don't like...

I love nature.
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mightymoe

Tue 11/28/17 03:35 PM




I would share my opinion ...but Is the
Universe complete..? Maybe it is just the gravitational force.,our planet is important to us with the good and the bad.
really, there's no good or bad in nature... just our labeling of things we like or don't like...

I love nature.
I love that you love nature...love
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lu_rosemary

Tue 11/28/17 03:37 PM




I would share my opinion ...but Is the
Universe complete..? Maybe it is just the gravitational force.,our planet is important to us with the good and the bad.
really, there's no good or bad in nature... just our labeling of things we like or don't like...

I love nature.


I was reading an Article about it not to long ago..too bad i cant remember what was the name of the website i went to.i will try to Find the material and post the INFO right here if i can Find it.
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mightymoe

Tue 11/28/17 03:51 PM





I would share my opinion ...but Is the
Universe complete..? Maybe it is just the gravitational force.,our planet is important to us with the good and the bad.
really, there's no good or bad in nature... just our labeling of things we like or don't like...

I love nature.


I was reading an Article about it not to long ago..too bad i cant remember what was the name of the website i went to.i will try to Find the material and post the INFO right here if i can Find it.

Maybe it's still in your browsers history...they talk a lot about the electric universe on sott.net...
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lu_rosemary

Tue 11/28/17 03:57 PM






I would share my opinion ...but Is the
Universe complete..? Maybe it is just the gravitational force.,our planet is important to us with the good and the bad.
really, there's no good or bad in nature... just our labeling of things we like or don't like...

I love nature.


I was reading an Article about it not to long ago..too bad i cant remember what was the name of the website i went to.i will try to Find the material and post the INFO right here if i can Find it.

Maybe it's still in your browsers history...they talk a lot about the electric universe on sott.net...


thank you and yes i really do love history..i will check that out..but there is a lot of good stuff to read right here as well..