Funny I decided to take some college classed while in my 30's took a recorder to school every day sat it on my desk to record what the teacher said. At times they talked faster then I could write so recording it was the answer. Not only that but it was encouraged by the teachers. So just for thought how is it illegal to tape school work? Regardless if that is what it was used for or not even the Judge found that it was not illegal to do so...I'm a parent I would have done the same thing if they school would not listen to me and take care of the issue....

I know this story is over a month old, but I couldn't help the fact that the child's backpack was rifled through by the school, therefore violating that child's Fourth Amendment right. Without a search warrant, the school has no grounds to be snooping around in a student's backpack at any time. The Fourth Amendment protects EVERYONE from searches and seizures.

The problem is the power hungry dems are oozing out the seams in PA. I still don't know how Trump won this state. And yes I know they a stronghold on the world. So guess who gets the billionaires funding. THE SYSTEM'S RIGGED!

The problem is the power hungry dems are oozing out the seams in PA. I still don't know how Trump won this state. And yes I know they a stronghold on the world. So guess who gets the billionaires funding. THE SYSTEM'S RIGGED!

there are always loopholes in the constituion due to its vague wording. The fourth amendment protects against 'unreasonable search', not against all searches.

Something I see that y'all may not...

Who is actually in charge of the child
The parents or the school?

At one point in time parents had control of their children.
School was something they permitted as long as it didn't interfere with family needs.

We have given schools too much authority over our parental duties.
Schools dictate how things will be with no regard for family.

If I needed my boys to help put up hay, I kept them home.
School had little say in the matter.

It seems that is not the way of things anymore.
School dictates to the family.

I don't know about you but I see something dreadfully wrong with that situation. Families are being institutionalized and nobody seems to notice.

A child is a community responsibility.

WHo is in 'charge' is a matter of semantics, really.

Legally speaking, a parent or legal guardian will be responsible for the things their child does in regards to breaking the law.

BUT also,

whoever is left to supervise a child in their stead, is held ACCOUNTABLE to the well being of the child

when there are hundreds or thousands of children under the supervision of just a few adults, I believe it reasonable for guidelines to be agreed upon between parents/legal guardians, and the adults left to supervise in their stead

I do think its the best option there is. Children need education now to prepare them for the basic survival in this ever evolving world because the manual labor tasks that don't require it are quickly becoming extinct.

Most parents are in positions to have to work, which leaves it necessary for SOMEONE to be left in their stead during that time, it is wise to use that time as period that the child can be learning and to have SOMEONE setting guidelines for the child while they are being supervised.

There are options for private, public, or home to give parents more choice, but I do think that children are raised by communities and not 'just' parents. And as a parent do not feel at all that the schools have 'too much authority' as parents have to work and kids have to learn, I believe it is the reasonable compromise.

If a nanny puts someone's child in danger, they get a new nanny.
They may even bring the old nanny up on charges.
What is a fact is the nanny works FOR the parents, under their guidelines.

Anyone can nod their heads while thinking no.
School administrators put safeguards in place at public request but they don't enforce those safeguards equally.

School policy MUST be the final say.
No matter what the individual parents of the children say.
Thus, school policy is more powerful than the parents.
Only EXTREME cases get attention and when that case is old and no longer public interest everything reverts back.

Its a reactive strategy not preemptive.
Someone that does not know your kid, or you is making life decisions for them and nobody seems to care?

I do not see it that way. I do care. That is why I stay involved in what is going on at school. IN any public place there are policies in place for admittance, that is also preparation for the reality of life.


If a school puts my child in danger I can actually send them to another school or home school them OR sue the school, I don't see a huge difference there. There have to be rules and policies where people are gathered in large numbers, or else there is chaos. If the rules and policies at the school are in place to attempt a safe and clean learning environment, it is a good thing IMHO.

The school in my experience has not made any life decisions for my child, they have only supervised them while attempting to prepare them for adulthood and teach them the skills to compete and survive once they are 'grown.' It is what we teach them at HOME that impacts their life and every experience they have impact their life, but their decisions are still their own, based upon the collective exposure to all of those things.

I do not see it that way. I do care. That is why I stay involved in what is going on at school. IN any public place there are policies in place for admittance, that is also preparation for the reality of life.


If a school puts my child in danger I can actually send them to another school or home school them OR sue the school, I don't see a huge difference there. There have to be rules and policies where people are gathered in large numbers, or else there is chaos. If the rules and policies at the school are in place to attempt a safe and clean learning environment, it is a good thing IMHO.

The school in my experience has not made any life decisions for my child, they have only supervised them while attempting to prepare them for adulthood and teach them the skills to compete and survive once they are 'grown.' It is what we teach them at HOME that impacts their life and every experience they have impact their life, but their decisions are still their own, based upon the collective exposure to all of those things.

The parents are responsible overall. When the kids are at school, the school has responsibilities too.

The school has rules that need to be enforced, but this child was bullied. The mom had a right to protect her child.

The school has an obligation to protect but the parents are the parents.

The article (not posted by the OP) is different than what the OP says

There are exceptions to the norm.
I believe, Ms Harmony, that you are an exception to the norm.
Most people just comply with whatever the school wants because they don't want to be bothered with it all.
The norm seems to be complacency in all things anymore.
People would rather be told how to raise their children, who to vote for, what to believe, what to buy, ... well, you get my meaning.

When I was in school, I could draw a picture of a gun and nobody thought anything of it. Now, if a kid is the child of a person that has guns, the school tells that child that guns are bad.
It is to prevent school shootings but in my day if my parents/guardians did not allow me to have or do something, they set the rules.
Now, it doesn't matter what the parents want for their children, school determines right and wrong.

If a parent removes a child from school for bullying, they can have their child removed from their care at the persistence of the school. This woman felt an education was important but also felt the bullying was detrimental to her child.
The school did nothing to alleviate the issue so she did what a parent might do faced with such a life-changing series of events for her child. She took preemptive action to stop the bullying herself.
The school responded by action against her because she challenged their authority concerning her own child. The judge, understanding this, ruled in favor of the mother. The precedent would have dire consequences.
BUT...does anyone think this caused a change in school practices?
School policy is not learning. School administration is not gaining wisdom. The power is still in the hands of the school and they will not relinquish it easily.

Granted, parents that are working are too busy to concern themselves with anything not right in front of them. After-all, they have to earn a living.