Topic: A cup of life
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ShybutKind

Sat 05/19/18 03:11 PM

Give it to closest family and friends and the rest to the most valuable contributors to society.
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Queenie

Sat 05/19/18 07:06 PM


Unless it took me back to my twenties too... I'd sell it all, because I don't want to live forever in this condition.


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iam_resurrected

Sat 05/19/18 08:14 PM



Where did you get that idea?
The whole process of life is cell division.
YOU are the result of cell division.
You are a zygote of sperm and egg.
Fertilization causes the egg to divide and grow into you.
Without cell division, you would merely be an egg with a spermatozoa inside.
Animals grow by cell division.
Plants grow by cell division.
Even bacteria divide.


I am speaking about the specific single cell test samples they claim all life on earth supposedly evolve from.

the points you made are already established fact/theory. not what I have been discussing. I am speaking about the sole single cell that once it divides it becomes a secondary species from its former self.



The entire Universe is an isolated system in and of itself.
The entire Earth is an isolated system from space and other bodies in the Universe.
Since we have never been to another planet, everything we observe and test are from this planet or debris from other orbiting fragments within the isolated solar system.
You put a marble in a box and seal it shut, the marble is in an isolated system (environment).
There are different biomes on Earth that act as natural isolated systems.
Look at Madagascar or Australia. Whole species are the result of isolated systems.
Law of Conservation of Energy, states that energy cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system
How you got to what you replied from what I wrote mystifies me?


technically, we can see we are one of many galaxies, one of many planetary systems, maybe a single percent on the whole scale of the entire universe in its context.

we are only isolated by our lack of being able to travel to other galaxies. but factually, we are not isolated since we know we are 1 of many other galaxies, planets, etc, that could be full of life.


I gave the answer based on the fact we are only isolated due to our lack of capabilities, not because we are a single planet within the only galaxy in this vast universe. to me, that would consist of being isolated.





Um, science doesn't stretch the facts. It attempts to explain reality but sometimes the people are ignorant of what they are studying (ignorance means lack of understanding).
Science rechecks itself, revises itself as knowledge is gained.
We don't know everything about everything. We don't even know how one system effects other systems in precise detail. Science is the process of figuring it out but it takes time. Sometimes its wrong and when it is proven wrong and backed by reality, science is revised to reflect those changes.



mathematically, we can see how science skews its numbers. testing something unstable in a stable environment for one is changing the environment and creating a false reading. we can add millions of years to our findings on that process alone. which makes one realize, maybe this universe isn't as old as science claims after all.

and testing red lines for expansion rates are definitely skewed. we have a couple within our own galaxy we have ignored, because it would only make the expansion rate millions years old, not billions.



Okay, there are one of two things with that statement.
Either I am misunderstanding you or you truly have no idea what you are talking about.
You do know the Higgs Boson is an elementary particle that was not created, it was found. Higgs theorized it existed and scientists looked for it. They didn't find it till they had the technology able to detect elementary particles. Higgs postulated that this particular boson type is what keeps matter from all moving at the speed of light. A universal speed limiter. I have looked at the theories on the Higgs Boson in a long time but I think that theory was incorrect or has yet to be proven.
The last lecture I watched on this was from Professor Kim Griest in his video
The Mystery of Empty Space:
http://youtu.be/Y-vKh_jKX7Q?t=1m5s
Higgs Bosons, Vacuum Energy and Extra Dimensions
Which was made before the Large Hadron Collider went operational.


was not discussing the particle. was discussing the electromagnet device that people physically see and are swayed by


You have every right to have your opinion.
Personally, I don't think there was a Big Bang at all.
I already went into my understanding in other threads in this forum.


I need to find these threads then. I have read all idealisms towards our supposed beginnings, your opinion to me, seems it would be to some degree knowledgeable. I state this, because your other posts have been on scientific matters a better explanation of how, what concerning us, our universe, etc than science has been able to offer.


Wha...?
I'm having trouble following your reasoning, the more I read from you?
How are all these statements related?

My responses have been on your reply...


it was a random tangent concerning if we changed the thinking on how the BANG happened, it might bring light to better medical solutions.

I say this based upon removing the laws to cause the BANG, by thinking on lines we missed something more valuable than the laws itself.



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I am one who does not buy that my fingers are not touching my keyboard. it's like 2 magnets retracting. I do believe we are energy, but that we become energy after death [the soul].
Edited by iam_resurrected on Sat 05/19/18 08:19 PM
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Tom4Uhere

Sat 05/19/18 08:17 PM

Aw man, no offense but it just ain't worth it and its way off topic.
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iam_resurrected

Sat 05/19/18 08:20 PM

:thumbsup:
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Tom4Uhere

Sat 05/19/18 08:25 PM

Tell you what.
If you want to discuss this stuff and bang heads around pick one of my topics in science and philosophy forum and post a reply on something on topic and we can digress on one of my topics without disrespecting someone else's OP by going off topic.

Plus, I have commented on quite a few topics in that forum. Usually they are multiple pages because the discussions are pretty good.
If you see something that I wrote and want to ask or discuss it, put it in a response or add it to a reply in one of my topics and I will discuss it or we can figure out if it needs its own topic.

Just remember that everyone has the right to join in with their own opinions too.
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iam_resurrected

Sat 05/19/18 08:30 PM

:thumbsup:




I would hope more would offer their own views. I think collectively as a whole, we hold the answers and truths. I don't buy we discover it all by a single point of view, but from all of our views together.
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Tom4Uhere

Sat 05/19/18 08:33 PM


:thumbsup:
I would hope more would offer their own views. I think collectively as a whole, we hold the answers and truths. I don't buy we discover it all by a single point of view, but from all of our views together.

If you had a cup full of life And One sip would give you immortality.. that one sip would make the person immortal... they would live forever... the cup holds a hundred sips.. what would you choose to do with it.??. give the gift of immortality to family to friends.. sell some sips of everlasting life.. would you give it to your children as soon as they were born or wait till they're old enough to decide if they wanted to live forever... remember one sip you live forever...
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BavanSR

Thu 06/28/18 09:00 AM

A fair point.

Even when leading their lives, people are increasingly becoming less of human(e). So what big difference would it make being immortal?

Attitude and gratitude is what manifests and matters most... Well, that's only my opinion.
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JasonKM

Sat 06/30/18 03:07 PM

I've seen enough of greed that if I found a cup of everlasting life I'd take it directly to the nearest creek and pour it in. You never know, maybe so diluted it would spread a little of itself fairly around the world, either way when you keep an ultimate power in the form of an object what you get is war and murder over the object.