There are certain guns that should be banned but definitely not all of them. This is how the higher ups divide and conquer. You cannot take isolated incidents and apply them to the entire nation and all its people. There are millions of responsible gun owners. Why should they pay for the crimes of the few? We in the United States have the right to bear arms. Our forefathers in their wisdom understood the necessity of this constitution when it was created. Once this constitutional right is taken away, we will be defenseless against the corruption of government, the elite and all the higher ups. We, the people, still have power over corruption and those in power, all the establishment politicians. They still have a healthy respect for the citizens of the United States when they know that we are able to defend ourselves against their corrupt laws and regimes. Once our right to bear arms gets taken away, the corrupt politicians and government can easily swoop in and enslave us to their will.

I also used to believe once in my naïveté that getting rid of all guns would solve all the violent problems. This is what the corrupt politicians would like us to believe as they have us willingly relinquish our power for the ostensible oft repeated reasons of safety and security. Do not fall for it. We are sheep being led to the slaughterhouse. CITIZENS, KEEP YOUR GUNS! DON'T BE STUPID!

Maybe Congress should.vote on baning tobaco!
Maybe a bigger fight than baning guns thou.

If accidental tobacco use and intentional tobacco homicides were to be an issue. I would agree. For now, the harm people want to do to their own bodies should remain their business.

Tobacco has been a problem for peoples health for years!

And people have a right to have a gun, which is also a personal chioce! That is their business as well.

Wow, all those human deaths and it doesn't make a dent in the human overpopulation. How do we cull 5 billion people to make the world better, Tom?

it is their business until they intentionally use it to take the lives of others, then it is a problem.

It is still their business! That's what criminals do sometimes. Also mental ill people, who get their hands on a gun.


Companies that sell tobacco, would they be considered taking the lives of others too !! No.

Criminals will always get guns. Probably very few gun owners are criminals.




Yes, we will Always disagree on gun control. All day and night.

Wow, all those human deaths and it doesn't make a dent in the human overpopulation. How do we cull 5 billion people to make the world better, Tom?

I've already written a bunch on population control in another thread.

The problem isn't how we cull 5 BILLION people.
The problem is can we?
We value life. We take safeguards to protect us from natural culling events.

The way I see it, the only way to remove 5 BILLION people from this planet is to properly fund space programs, space and interplanetary colonization efforts. If more of us were working on an exodus strategy, we would overcome its barriers. But, we refuse to spend our money on it.
NASA is poorly funded. It should be one of the biggest community efforts, highly funded.

We will wait till the problem gets so huge we are threatened as a species before we concentrate on a living solution. Then it will be too late because we were not properly prepared. It takes time to build colony ships that could house BILLIONS of people. It takes dedication, research and innovation to overcome those obstacles. Its been 50 some odd years since we stepped on another celestial body. We are going backwards. We should already have a habitat on the Moon and explorers on Mars. We should already have habitat space stations in high orbit and between Earth and Mars. We should already have research stations at the Jovian and Saturnine systems. We don't because we are greedy and small minded. Its gunna bite us in the a** and it will be our fault.