purpose or location of use should be regulated? wow

There are only 3 reason why people have guns Ms.harmony.
Defense, sport or hunting.

The car analogy is silly , because F1 cars are legal to drive on the road but its not made for street traffic, it takes 8 engineers to star the car and it cant operate in speeds under 100 miles an hour for a long period of time.

F1 are made for certain tracks not the street road or highway/freeways.

You want guns out of the mental stable hand but you have not offered any solutions

You say certain weapons Im assuming you mean AR 15's dont belong, but most women find it easier to handle.

and why would an ar 15 a semiautomatic rifle be singled out? one trigger pull one fire just like a springfield 30.06 hunting rifle
because it looks like the full auto m16 military rifle?

Yes, but we dont see F1 cars being rampantly driven on the streets huh?

And Im sure even they have to be registered and have licenses that document their PURPOSE and use, and also have to meet certain requirements to be safer ON THE STREETS.

if people use guns for defense, hunting, or sport, there should be no issue with them stating so during registering or purchase.


Keeping guns out of the mentally unstable can be done with mandatory Mental Health background checks

I think most women can find many other guns that are 'easy' to use, most dont take rocket science to figure out, point and pull the trigger. convenience should not overrule safety.

i actually only used that model for it's recent mention by multiple posters. you personally do keep saying that certain kinds of guns should be regulated specifically so once again which guns should be regulated out of law abiders hands to remove them from whack jobs hands?

dear lord.

F1 cars are not made for street driving, your analogy is silly Ms.harmony.
I just told you why, it takes 7 to 8 engineers to get it started, the average person cant afford that, and the cars are not made for driving under 100 miles an hour for long period of time, you would kill the car in rush hour traffic.

the majority of people buying guns is for defense, hunting or sport, oh I forgot Gun collectors.

Criminals dont buy guns legally why do you that is?

The problem with mandatory health check is it could very from state to state, I cant imagine doing one in the people's republic state of California with all their bureaucrats, I imagine it would easier in states like Rhode Island with their smaller population

If the federal government gets in involved there will be too much red tape.

I actually researched the claim, and RACECARS that can be LEGALLY driven on the road, STILL have to meet certain regulations in order to do so, that was my point. We can always find outliers. but the analogy stands that there are regulations before a vehicle can legally be on the streets, (and I made an error as I have not found any example of F! specifically, but just 'race cars).

Mass shooters HAVE bought guns legally and that is the primary context behind renewed interest in looking at guns being retailed and to whom.

Many countries have implemented the 'red tape' of government involvement and seem to have gained a better hold of the mass shootings than we have.

No one said it will be simple but new rules and laws rarely are.

ms.harmony,

A race car can drive on the road in america but they don't because they are not made for driving on the street, they are called race cars for a reason, whether its F1, nascar or any single seat car designed to race at high speed.

2) you cannot compare other countries to America when it comes to guns only 3 countries have in their constitution the right to own gun as you know the US is one, the other two Mexico, and Guatemala.

But the U.S is the only country in the world that gives their citizens the right to bear arms without a constitution restriction

Here is a piece of useless trivia, In Mexico there is only one place for their citizens to buy guns at a heavily armed army base and you cannot own guns that the military or police use.

Getting a permit is very difficult hence the corrupition

Guatemala,is also difficult to get a permit, long lines and you cannot buy fully automatic

Only semi's, rifles, hand guns , shot guns and you're limited on the amount of ammunition

tell me would you like to live in Mexico ,Guatemala or the USA?

You mentioned many countries have implemented better gun control? well I just showed you only 3 countries gives their citizens the right to bear arms.

Every other country is its a privilege to own guns and its a long process to even get one and you cannot buy it for self defense.

you cant compare our countries to those countries.

makes sense?

of course we can compare. we do it all the time.


we can speculate as to the reasons we find differences or similarities in those comparisons, but we can always compare

gun advocates use CHICAGO to 'compare' for the purpose of their argument against gun laws ... even though CHICAGO is an outlier in its VICINITY to legally obtainable guns and its culture of poverty and desperation

Mexico is the same in its since of strict laws that become useless when guns are so easily ACCESSIBLE outside of the area in the UNITED STATES and in the sense of the poverty and desperation

these suburban kids, not the same desperation and poverty, and guns that can mow down large numbers in moments basically being PLACED In their hands by the state itself.. are using them for mass killings.. thats the comparison.

and when we compare countries with similar CULTURE (not mexico or venezuelan) like other WESTERN countries, the comparison becomes relevant.

ms.harmony,
A race car can drive on the road in america but they don't because they are not made for driving on the street, they are called race cars for a reason, whether its F1, nascar or any single seat car designed to race at high speed.
2) you cannot compare other countries to America when it comes to guns only 3 countries have in their constitution the right to own gun as you know the US is one, the other two Mexico, and Guatemala.
But the U.S is the only country in the world that gives their citizens the right to bear arms without a constitution restriction
Here is a piece of useless trivia, In Mexico there is only one place for their citizens to buy guns at a heavily armed army base and you cannot own guns that the military or police use.
Getting a permit is very difficult hence the corrupition
Guatemala,is also difficult to get a permit, long lines and you cannot buy fully automatic
Only semi's, rifles, hand guns , shot guns and you're limited on the amount of ammunition
tell me would you like to live in Mexico ,Guatemala or the USA?
You mentioned many countries have implemented better gun control? well I just showed you only 3 countries gives their citizens the right to bear arms.
Every other country is its a privilege to own guns and its a long process to even get one and you cannot buy it for self defense.
you cant compare our countries to those countries.
makes sense?

You can compare all you want Ms.Harmony, it doesn't make it a fact, comparing apples to apples is ideal.

I wish my 2nd amendment loving brothers and sisters would stop using Chicago as their so called proof.

Chicago isn't the gun murder capital of America, that honor belongs to St.Louis and Baltimore with Charlotte N.C sneaking up.

how do you explain that?

2) Mexico, and I hope you did some research to either refute or agree with it, In Mexico there is only one place where you can buy a gun legally, ONE PLACE, yet there are tons of people with guns not purchased legally like the major cartels.

this is one reason why you cannot compare mexico to the U.S.

3) explain this to me ' hese suburban kids, not the same desperation and poverty, and guns that can mow down large numbers in moments basically being PLACED In their hands by the state itself.. are using them for mass killings.. thats the comparison..

this makes no sense.

4) comparing western cultures like America to lets say the U.K. doesn't make sense, the U.K or any European country doesn't have a second amendment, no country in Europe or practically every country around the world except two others, give their citizens a right to bear arms.

There is no comparison, I cannot compare a pineapple to an apple just because it contains the word "apple" in it.

http://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights-transcript#toc-amendment-ii

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Amendment VII

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Why not just set aside a special day all the gun nuts?

When that day comes around, you keep your kids home from school, and every time you see someone with a gun, you can wish them a Happy Mass Shooter Day!

1. The United States should be in a condition of threat to need its free state protected by its citizens.