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Tom4Uhere

Sun 04/01/18 08:53 AM

From a Christianity point of view...

Why is Christmas a bigger celebration than Easter?

Lemme splain...

Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus from Virgin Mary's immaculate Conception.

Easter is a celebration of the birth of Christ.

While Jesus was alive he was a teacher and represented a practical example for followers to find grace. A Man.

However, Christianity is based on the sacrifice of Jesus and the rising of Christ.
Shouldn't the focus be on Christ?...Christian...get it?

Wouldn't you think that there would be a greater celebration on Easter than on Christmas?
I mean, presents, lights, bells, song and merriment?

Isn't the actual gift of Christ, the sacrifice represented by Easter? Its the events on Easter that actually define the concept behind Christianity...the Resurrection.
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yellowrose10

Sun 04/01/18 12:25 PM

I don't celebrate either as a religious holiday. These dates were nothing but what the Roman Catholics (at the time) came up with to push out pagans. I celebrate things every day of my life
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msharmony

Sun 04/01/18 01:13 PM

I dont see them as competing in any way. Jesus contributions and gifts were wondrous when he walked the Earth and the miracle of his resurrection continued that wondrous gift ...




imho as a christian
Edited by msharmony on Sun 04/01/18 01:15 PM
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Toodygirl5

Mon 04/02/18 06:06 PM

Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus and the Resurrection of Jesus with both being of great importance for mankind. Christianity is a lifestyle, not a once or twice a year celebration! The World celebrates Holiday's, which many people don't even know the real meaning of celebrating Jesus Christ.

Christianity is a person realionshiop, knowing Jesus as your personal savior!

Not a religion, but a relationship.
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BigD9832

Wed 05/02/18 10:04 AM


From Tom4Uhere
Why is Christmas a bigger celebration than Easter?


Both are man-made holidays and neither one is in the Bible.

They were part of Constantine's campaign to include some of the old Pagan ways into this new Christian religion.

Christmas was the celebration of the Winter Solstice and Easter was the celebration of Isther, the goddess of fertility.



Edited by BigD9832 on Wed 05/02/18 10:07 AM
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Tom4Uhere

Wed 05/02/18 04:06 PM



From Tom4Uhere
Why is Christmas a bigger celebration than Easter?


Both are man-made holidays and neither one is in the Bible.

They were part of Constantine's campaign to include some of the old Pagan ways into this new Christian religion.

Christmas was the celebration of the Winter Solstice and Easter was the celebration of Isther, the goddess of fertility.

In my country (USA) nearly every holiday is a celebration of an event or a remembrance of someone important to us.
In my lifetime each holiday has certain significance as I was taught.
We didn't celebrate the Winter Solstice, we celebrated Christmas.
The Immaculate Birth Of Jesus.
We didn't celebrate spring, we celebrated Easter, the Divine Birth of Christ.
On Independence Day we didn't celebrate war, we celebrate our National Freedom.
On my Birthday, I don't celebrate Birth, I celebrate My Birth.

I wasn't alive when celebrations originated. I only have experience with how they have been during my own experience.

As I grow older, my faith in religion has ended. I do however, acknowledge that people I know, celebrate Christmas and Easter for the same reasons I did. That fact, gives them validity.

My OP and the question at hand has more to do with asking a religious dedication question than trying to justify the holiday.
Knowing what I do about Christianity, from my own experience, knows that Easter is the most significant event of the two. It wasn't the Birth of Jesus that is significant to the religion. It is the sacrifice (Birth of Christ) that is most significant to the religion from the point of having our sins resolved. Without the events that Easter represents, There would be no Christ. Without Christ, there can be no Christianity.

Therefore I ask, why is Easter not a bigger holiday celebration than Christmas?
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joethebricky

Wed 05/02/18 05:07 PM




From Tom4Uhere
Why is Christmas a bigger celebration than Easter?


Both are man-made holidays and neither one is in the Bible.

They were part of Constantine's campaign to include some of the old Pagan ways into this new Christian religion.

Christmas was the celebration of the Winter Solstice and Easter was the celebration of Isther, the goddess of fertility.

In my country (USA) nearly every holiday is a celebration of an event or a remembrance of someone important to us.
In my lifetime each holiday has certain significance as I was taught.
We didn't celebrate the Winter Solstice, we celebrated Christmas.
The Immaculate Birth Of Jesus.
We didn't celebrate spring, we celebrated Easter, the Divine Birth of Christ.
On Independence Day we didn't celebrate war, we celebrate our National Freedom.
On my Birthday, I don't celebrate Birth, I celebrate My Birth.

I wasn't alive when celebrations originated. I only have experience with how they have been during my own experience.

As I grow older, my faith in religion has ended. I do however, acknowledge that people I know, celebrate Christmas and Easter for the same reasons I did. That fact, gives them validity.

My OP and the question at hand has more to do with asking a religious dedication question than trying to justify the holiday.
Knowing what I do about Christianity, from my own experience, knows that Easter is the most significant event of the two. It wasn't the Birth of Jesus that is significant to the religion. It is the sacrifice (Birth of Christ) that is most significant to the religion from the point of having our sins resolved. Without the events that Easter represents, There would be no Christ. Without Christ, there can be no Christianity.

Therefore I ask, why is Easter not a bigger holiday celebration than Christmas?

Maybe because his birth was how it all started, not sure to be honest.
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Tom4Uhere

Wed 05/02/18 05:28 PM

Maybe because his birth was how it all started, not sure to be honest.

Me either, why I am asking...

The birth of Jesus was the birth of a man by Immaculate Conception.
The Birth of Christ was the sacrifice that washes away Christian sin.
Up until Jesus was crucified, Jesus was a man, Son of God thru Immaculate Conception.
The Birth of Jesus is not Christmas because Christ did not exist until Jesus died.
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BigD9832

Thu 05/10/18 02:02 PM




From Tom4Uhere
Why is Christmas a bigger celebration than Easter?


Both are man-made holidays and neither one is in the Bible.

They were part of Constantine's campaign to include some of the old Pagan ways into this new Christian religion.

Christmas was the celebration of the Winter Solstice and Easter was the celebration of Isther, the goddess of fertility.

In my country (USA) nearly every holiday is a celebration of an event or a remembrance of someone important to us.
In my lifetime each holiday has certain significance as I was taught.
We didn't celebrate the Winter Solstice, we celebrated Christmas.
The Immaculate Birth Of Jesus.
We didn't celebrate spring, we celebrated Easter, the Divine Birth of Christ.
On Independence Day we didn't celebrate war, we celebrate our National Freedom.
On my Birthday, I don't celebrate Birth, I celebrate My Birth.

I wasn't alive when celebrations originated. I only have experience with how they have been during my own experience.

As I grow older, my faith in religion has ended. I do however, acknowledge that people I know, celebrate Christmas and Easter for the same reasons I did. That fact, gives them validity.

My OP and the question at hand has more to do with asking a religious dedication question than trying to justify the holiday.
Knowing what I do about Christianity, from my own experience, knows that Easter is the most significant event of the two. It wasn't the Birth of Jesus that is significant to the religion. It is the sacrifice (Birth of Christ) that is most significant to the religion from the point of having our sins resolved. Without the events that Easter represents, There would be no Christ. Without Christ, there can be no Christianity.

Therefore I ask, why is Easter not a bigger holiday celebration than Christmas?


In your country, as in every other country, Christmas and Easter are NOT Scriptural holidays.

For example, the Day of Pentecost is a Scriptural holiday.

CLV Acts 20:16 for Paul had decided to sail by Ephesus, so that he may not be coming to linger in the province of Asia, for he hurried, if it may be possible for him to be in Jerusalem by the day of Pentecost.

We can follow what God had laid down for us, or we can follow what man has turned the Bible into. But we cannot do both.

CLV 2Tim 1:13 |Have a pattern of sound words, which you hear from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus.

You can look up on the web the origins of these man-made holidays.

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Tom4Uhere

Thu 05/10/18 03:30 PM

You can look up on the web the origins of these man-made holidays.

I didn't grow up on the web and the origins of the holidays were driven home by family and church.
I know better now but there are a whole lot of people that think CHRISTmas is a celebration of the birth of CHRIST.
That Good Friday and Easter are significant to the religion and celebrated as that significant event.
Two holidays that are highly steeped in tradition.
Two holidays that are significantly represented by religious advertising and programming.
To the point it can't be ignored.

Most of my life I thought Christmas was a birthday celebration.
I taught my kids to sing Happy Birthday to Jesus.
When I woke up to religions, I realized that, just like a lot of other "gospel" it didn't make sense? There were reasoning conflicts.

CHRISTianity is a religion based on Christ. It makes no sense to celebrate Jesus the man. It is an error to celebrate CHRIST to signify Jesus' birth.
It is also a misrepresentation of the baseline faith to celebrate CHRISTmas with more glory than Good Friday, Passover and Easter.
The whole religion baselines in what THAT holiday signifies, by belief.
What I'm saying is it would make a lot more sense if Christians celebrated Easter with more fervor than Christmas.
The fact that most don't, says a lot about that religion and how it justifies.

Then, don't even get me started about prayer.
Suffice it to say, if you pray for the same thing more than once, it shows your lack of faith. The Christian God is supposed to be the know-all, be all, everywhere and everywhen. The creator of the Universe. He is supposed to be able to hear your prayers. What does it say about your faith and your God if you have to constantly remind Him? Did He not understand you? Does He need constantly asked and maybe He will answer your prayers? Perhaps you didn't pray loud enough? Does He need a hearing aid?
People like to say their faith is strong but how strong is it if you gotta keep begging?
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BigD9832

Fri 05/11/18 03:30 PM


You can look up on the web the origins of these man-made holidays.

I didn't grow up on the web and the origins of the holidays were driven home by family and church.


You didn't grow up on the web? Young man, I did that research during the 60's in places we used to call "libraries" with what we use to call "books." But your life-span isn't going to stretch long enough to go back to Christ and Constantine, who declared these holidays. You are going to have to look BEYOND your own meager years in order to discover the truth.

I didn't think I had to explain this to someone of your age.


I know better now but there are a whole lot of people that think CHRISTmas is a celebration of the birth of CHRIST.


CLV Matt 7:13 "Enter through the cramped gate, for broad is the gate and spacious is the way which is leading away into destruction, and many are those entering through it.


Most of my life I thought Christmas was a birthday celebration.
I taught my kids to sing Happy Birthday to Jesus.
When I woke up to religions, I realized that, just like a lot of other "gospel" it didn't make sense? There were reasoning conflicts.


The entire Bible makes sense. You just have to think it through. It also helps if you have an accurate translation. If you are still using the KJV I can see why you might be confused.


What I'm saying is it would make a lot more sense if Christians celebrated Easter with more fervor than Christmas.
The fact that most don't, says a lot about that religion and how it justifies.


Easter and Christmas are both man-made holidays. You can celebrate them or not, your choice.

CLV Prov 16:25 There is a way that seems upright before a man, Yet its end becomes the ways of death.


Then, don't even get me started about prayer.


Thought is prayer.

KJV Proverbs 23:7 7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.


Suffice it to say, if you pray for the same thing more than once, it shows your lack of faith.


Where did you hear that?

CLV 1Thess 5:17 Be praying unintermittingly.

'Adialeiptos' means uninterruptedly, i.e. without omission.

Perhaps a good study on prayer will help?

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Tom4Uhere

Sat 05/12/18 01:22 AM

I didn't think I had to explain this to someone of your age.

You don't but its okay, I know you can't resist.

Nothing you wrote in your reply addresses the intent of the OP.
I understand more than you might think I do.

I'm referring to what I have experienced and how I understand those experiences. I'm asking because what I have witnessed and still witness makes no sense based on how I understand the experiences I have witnessed.
Thus, I question the validity of the contradictions.

My belief in God is absolute.
God requires nothing of me and I require nothing of God.
God isn't narcissistic or jealous.
The people that think they represent God are.

I have free will.
Since God gave me free will, God sets no reward or punishment upon me.
God makes no promises to gain my belief.
Man needed promises, punishments and rewards to control the religion they created.
Problem is, when they set the rules the assume everyone has the same value system as they.
I need no Heaven or Hell.
Man needed Heaven and Hell to keep the religion followers in check.

Why is Christmas a bigger celebration than Easter?
Could it be because greed is a big motivator for people?
Could it be that gifts inspire faith more than sacrifice?
It doesn't matter the origin. What matters is the application in this society.
Even Santa inspires faith.
Easter does have gifts but most miss the biggest gift and concentrate on the Easter Bunny's sweets as gifts.
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indianadave4

Thu 05/17/18 03:39 PM

The Birth of Jesus is not Christmas because Christ did not exist until Jesus died.


This I'll have to challenge. On several occasions Jesus stated he was the messiah. When asked who the disciples believed him to be, Peter said Thou are the Christ, the Son of the living God. Jesus replied that flesh and blood has not revealed this to you.....

Jesus didn't become the messiah, he was born the messiah: God incarnate.
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Toodygirl5

Thu 05/17/18 03:57 PM

Jesus is the Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever!

Christians celebrate Jesus Christ Every day. Christmas is a holiday set aside to remember his Birth. Not that he was born on December 25.

Society has made the holiday a time for selling merchandise like on many other Holiday's in the calendar year.
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indianadave4

Thu 05/17/18 04:02 PM

FWIW, the early church did not celebrate "Christmas". December 25th was the celebration of the winter solstice. In Rome it was called Saturnalia. In order to convince pagan Romans to come into the Church Constantine began renamed many Roman holy days with Christian names.

The early Church understood that Jesus was crucified and buried over the Jewish Passover. He resurrected on the day after the Passover often called the Lords Day in the Book of Acts.

In order to make this day acceptable to pagan Romans he renamed it Ishtar. Easter is the English name for the ancient Babylonian goddess of fertility Ishtar who was worshiped in Rome.

Is it wrong to celebrate Jesus' birth and the The Lords Day? I don't believe so. Most people have no clue as to the historic beginning usages of these two terms/days. The Roman Catholic Church changed the names of pagan gods and holy days in Europe for the next 1,000 years. The same thing happened with the conquests of South America, Central America and Mexico.

Unfortunately some of the Catholic priests in South America and Central America still serve their locals as shamans of the early Inca and Aztec religions when not in the confines of the Church building.
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Tom4Uhere

Thu 05/17/18 08:56 PM


The Birth of Jesus is not Christmas because Christ did not exist until Jesus died.


This I'll have to challenge. On several occasions Jesus stated he was the messiah. When asked who the disciples believed him to be, Peter said Thou are the Christ, the Son of the living God. Jesus replied that flesh and blood has not revealed this to you.....

Jesus didn't become the messiah, he was born the messiah: God incarnate.

Isn't the "sacrifice" the basis of the Christian faith?
Jesus may have been the messiah because of His immaculate birth but Christ didn't exist until the sacrifice.
Its that sacrifice (Christ) that stands between God and you when you are judged. God looks at you thru eyes of love he has for his son.

I'm not saying either holiday is right or wrong, I'm just asking why one is celebrated higher than the other. As far as I'm concerned anyone can believe anything they want and celebrate any way they want.
I was just curious?
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iam_resurrected

Thu 05/17/18 09:08 PM



The Birth of Jesus is not Christmas because Christ did not exist until Jesus died.


This I'll have to challenge. On several occasions Jesus stated he was the messiah. When asked who the disciples believed him to be, Peter said Thou are the Christ, the Son of the living God. Jesus replied that flesh and blood has not revealed this to you.....

Jesus didn't become the messiah, he was born the messiah: God incarnate.

Isn't the "sacrifice" the basis of the Christian faith?
Jesus may have been the messiah because of His immaculate birth but Christ didn't exist until the sacrifice.
Its that sacrifice (Christ) that stands between God and you when you are judged. God looks at you thru eyes of love he has for his son.

I'm not saying either holiday is right or wrong, I'm just asking why one is celebrated higher than the other. As far as I'm concerned anyone can believe anything they want and celebrate any way they want.
I was just curious?












John 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.


this was before His death, burial, and resurrection.

it's believing that Yeshua is God, the Christ, the Messiah and accepting it that brings you salvation. this is the act of faith because we have never seen Him in person.


His death ensures our sins are forgiven through his shed blood. but ultimately, it's the simple act of believing upon Him that He is God that saves us. because once you believe, you will then follow the rest of His commandments.
Edited by iam_resurrected on Thu 05/17/18 09:10 PM
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indianadave4

Fri 05/18/18 10:23 PM

Messiah (derived from the Hebrew) means anointed one. Christ comes from the Greek word for anointed one. Jesus was born the anointed one: he did not become the anointed one at the crucifixion. At the crucifixion he became the sacrificial lamb. He was the Messiah, Christ, anointed one from the time he came into the world.

When Jesus asked who the disciples though he was Peter said "The Christ, the Son of the living God". If Jesus only became Christ at the crucifixion than Jesus would have corrected Peter. But he didn't.
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Tom4Uhere

Sat 05/19/18 01:45 AM

Isn't John 3:15 New Testament?
Wasn't the New Testament written after Christ?

These replys are not answering the OP.
They are arguing the specifics of a religion.

The question has to do with holiday celebration.
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indianadave4

Sat 05/19/18 02:11 PM


Isn't John 3:15 New Testament?
Wasn't the New Testament written after Christ?

These replys are not answering the OP.
They are arguing the specifics of a religion.

The question has to do with holiday celebration.


The New Testament book of John was written by the Apostle John to document what he saw, heard and experienced as a disciple of Jesus. John did not create or embellish the story of Jesus as those who do not believe try to suggest.

As far as holidays I've already replied Christmas and Easter.