Topic: The End of the World - Eon
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BigD9832

Mon 07/30/18 06:49 PM

Yes, I did go to Moody.
And where did you go to?

There is no deity of Jesus Christ in the Scriptures.

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BlakeIAM

Mon 07/30/18 06:57 PM


Yes, I did go to Moody.
And where did you go to?

There is no deity of Jesus Christ in the Scriptures.




The fact that Jesus the Christ is God is absolutely contained within The Scriptures.

Do you reject Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour?
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BigD9832

Tue 07/31/18 10:04 AM

From BlakeIAM
The fact that Jesus the Christ is God is absolutely contained within The Scriptures.
Do you reject Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour?


Nowhere in the Scriptures does God or Jesus say that Jesus is God. Nowhere.

As I have said before, I can not accept anything you say without Scriptural back-up.

This thread is not about me or my beliefs. It is about what can be found in the Bible. A book you seem to reject.

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Serchin4MyRedWine

Tue 07/31/18 10:16 AM

Seems to me the term "Fact" is used quite frequently in discussing the bible, scriptures etc.

If the Bible and/or Christianity was "factual" then why is there Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism etc?

2+2=4 is a fact known world wide.

If the the bible or Christianity were factual...wouldn't everyone believe it?
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msharmony

Tue 07/31/18 12:07 PM

I believe no one can know the day, because even though we are in the age of technology or whatever, our knowledge of the world is still limited to subjective perspectives based more in media and books than in actual experience. so where it may seem dismal in one corner of the earth, so to speak, another corner may feel like a paradise.

I think we are in the END of the USA as we know it, but I have begun to rethink whether that alone means the end of the WORLD.

Each Kingdom has its time. but its a big world, and it doesnt revolve around the USA no matter how immersed many of us "Americans" have been in the idea that it does.
Edited by msharmony on Tue 07/31/18 12:09 PM
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Serchin4MyRedWine

Tue 07/31/18 12:12 PM




I think we are in the END of the USA as we know it,


And I feel fine......

Sounds like an R.E.M. song happy

Hi MSH...been awhilewaving flowerforyou
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mightymoe

Tue 07/31/18 02:03 PM


I believe no one can know the day, because even though we are in the age of technology or whatever, our knowledge of the world is still limited to subjective perspectives based more in media and books than in actual experience. so where it may seem dismal in one corner of the earth, so to speak, another corner may feel like a paradise.

I think we are in the END of the USA as we know it, but I have begun to rethink whether that alone means the end of the WORLD.

Each Kingdom has its time. but its a big world, and it doesnt revolve around the USA no matter how immersed many of us "Americans" have been in the idea that it does.

I thought that same thing when both bushes and Obama were elected...
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msharmony

Tue 07/31/18 04:39 PM

There are alot of things besides POTUS, but I feel its still different.

I feel both Bushes and OBama were still elected with some type of presidential standard of decorum, with scrutiny of behavior, words, and offenses. This time, it was offense and rudeness after offense and rudeness and no standard expected by enough people to elect him.

I feel there is a promoted and encouraged uptick in distrust and conspiracy culture and perpetuation of the unsubstantiated 'fact' as news and the substantiated facts as 'fake'.

I feel there is an alarmingly sanctioned increase of so many groups being represented as 'other'.

I feel there is an uptick in the lack of empathy or compassion rising from such a culture. I just see it coming to a head.

I see the natural counterpart to the blatant rising bigotry and insensitivity trying to simultaneously create rising hypersensitivity and fragility.



I would say, imho, its not at all that the cycle was not there for along time already, but it was moving slower. The cycle was slow with enslavement and legal bigotry, and accelerated its pace with the attack and breakdown on the nuclear family and traditional family/gender roles, and is now on a crash collision course with the uptick in rudeness, disconnect, naricissism and unsubstantiated conjecture and emotionalism over balance and logic.

but those are personal observations. And I only have the perspective from experience limited MAINLY to USA.

Edited by msharmony on Tue 07/31/18 04:49 PM
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BigD9832

Tue 07/31/18 08:26 PM

From
Seems to me the term "Fact" is used quite frequently in discussing the bible, scriptures etc.
If the Bible and/or Christianity was "factual" then why is there Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism etc?
2+2=4 is a fact known world wide.


The problem I see is that so many people make assumptions based on what they have heard, yet never really finding out the facts for themselves. This represents a type of Christianity that was never meant to exist.

There was a guy on here who thought the Bible said the Earth is 6000 years old. That is utter nonsense. Then after spreading these strange ideas, people tend to judge Christianity and Christians by these false impressions.

I see some say that they heard such crazy stuff, but are too lazy or not interested enough to find out what the Bible actually does say.

I suppose you could say there is a factual Christianity as opposed to one that is not.

If the the bible or Christianity were factual...wouldn't everyone believe it?


Oh, I don't know. Aren't there still smokers?

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Tom4Uhere

Wed 08/01/18 12:25 AM

There was a guy on here who thought the Bible said the Earth is 6000 years old. That is utter nonsense.

I agree but there are those that think that way.

A quick search reveals
http://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/

The Bible and an Old Earth

Inserting vast ages into the Bible’s first chapter sets it at odds with modern secular scientific opinion regarding the order of events. Old-earthers put land mammals before whales contrary to biblical claims. Many such examples show it is impossible to add long periods of time into the biblical account without seriously damaging the doctrine of inerrancy.

Does the Earth Look Old?

Most people, including Christians, still claim dogmatically that the earth looks old. If we look at the earth through the “glasses” of human reasoning—that only snail-paced present geological processes can explain the past—then the earth does indeed look old. However, that autonomous human reasoning blatantly denies what God’s Word clearly tells us.

Noah’s Flood or Millions of Years, It Can’t Be Both

Either the rock record is the evidence of millions of years, or it is largely the evidence of Noah’s Flood. It can’t be both. If we believe the earth is billions of years old and shows no sign of a worldwide Flood, then that belief contradicts the biblical account of Noah. If we accept God’s testimony regarding the Flood, we cannot logically believe in millions of years.

“Scientific” Arguments for an Old Earth

We commonly hear scientific-sounding arguments that the earth and universe are billions of years old. We are told radiometric dating shows that certain rocks formed billions of years ago. We are told that starlight from distant galaxies takes billions of years to arrive on earth. Do these arguments stand up to scrutiny?

Evidences of a Young Earth

The earth is only a few thousand years old. That’s a fact, plainly revealed in God’s Word. So we should expect to find plenty of evidence for its youth. And that’s what we find in the earth’s geology, biology, paleontology, and even astronomy.

I searched "the earth is 6,000 years old"
results say: About 28,900,000 results (0.47 seconds)
so almost 29 million results.
I know some of the results are pro and some are con
but the fact that there are results in such quantity
means there is a lot of discussion on the subject.

This website gives scripture as proof
http://creation.com/6000-years

The Flood to the Patriarchs

There is an unbroken chronogenealogy from Shem to Abraham in Genesis 11, and we’re given the information elsewhere in Genesis1 to extend the chronology until the relocation of Israel to Egypt when Jacob was 130 years old. Going by these numbers, Jacob went to Egypt in 642 + less than 12 years after the Flood, or 2298 + less than 22 years AM. The chronogenealogy ends here, with nearly 2,000 years to go until Christ.2 How do we extend the timeline?

The Patriarchs to the Exodus

Exodus 12:40 says that Israel was in Egypt for 430 years. This harmonizes well with Genesis 15:13 where God tells Abram that his descendants will be enslaved and mistreated for 400 years (enslavement did not happen on their arrival in Egypt but some time after Joseph died, when their number became threatening). So the Exodus happened in 2728 + less than 23 years AM.

and it continues on...

Is the Earth 6,000 Years Old? - The Restored Church of God
https://rcg.org/realtruth/articles/090203-006-science.html
“Young Earth” creationists interpret the Genesis account to mean that the universe was created 6,000 years ago. This age is determined by counting the ...

"Ask a Priest: Did the Church Teach That the Earth is 6,000 Years Old ...
https://rcspirituality.org/ask_a_priest/ask-priest-church-teach-earth-6000-years-old/
May 9, 2017 - Q: One of my college professors was talking about geologic time. She mentioned James Ussher, the man accredited with the 6,000-year time ...

Pat Robertson rejects 'young earth' creationism. 'Nonsense,' he says ...
https://www.csmonitor.com/.../Pat-Robertson-rejects-young-earth-creationism.-Nonsense...
Feb 6, 2014 - Pat Robertson rejects 'young earth' creationism. ... of creationism, which holds that the universe is about 6,000 to 10,000 years old. ... “To say it all dates back to 6,000 years is just nonsense, and I think [it's] time we come off of ...

There is even a youtube video that tries to say that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.

Creation Worldview Ministries: Is the earth 4,600,000,000 years old ...
https://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=1
If the earth were 6,000 years old, then almost 100% of the Lead found on the surface and within the crust of the earth was produced as the result of the ...

Wisconsin State Rep: 'The Earth Is 6,000 Years Old, That's A Fact'
www.patheos.com/blogs/.../2017/.../wisconsin-state-rep-earth-6000-years-old-thats-fac...
Jun 7, 2017 - While leading an attack on academic freedom at the University of Wisconsin, Rep. Jesse Kremer says he is certain the Earth is 6,000 years old.

How do fossils exist if the Earth is supposedly 6000 years old?
https://www.godcontention.org/.../how-do-fossils-exist-if-the-earth-is-supposedly-600...
The vast majority of the fossils we find on this planet are the result of the catastrophic global flood around 2350 BC, recorded in Genesis 6-8, and memories of ...

And it goes on and on and on...
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BigD9832

Wed 08/01/18 04:51 AM

The Earth is NOT 6000 years old and there is nothing in the Bible to support that idea.

This is just another example of a false Christianity.