Topic: Is There a Place Called Hell
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iam_resurrected

Sun 06/17/18 06:52 PM


Do you ever suppose people condemn themselves and hell is the life they live?
The choices they make produce grief and misery such that their world is filled with darkness.






I know people who have married, raised a family, was ready for life beyond children leaving the nest, and then suddenly discovered the person they thought was their spouse turned out to be a complete façade. and now, they believe they have wasted their entire life based upon wrongful decisions.

I know people who from childhood to old enough to retire never knew they we were being abused. they always thought things went south because of themselves.

psychotic narcissists [whom I call chameleons] have destroyed marriages, relationships with their own children, even created a sense of low self esteem for their spouses because their demented ways.

when someone suffers from psychological disorders and have no idea how to identify with reality, they can merge with someone who basically teaches them how to seem normal.

ever meet a man who has children, was part of raising children, but never makes a decision to ensure the family is a whole unit? I know of a situation where this scenario took place. the oldest daughter [mentally ill like the father] was allowed to remove the mother and another sibling from her wedding plans, and the father [psychotic narcissist] never corrected the situation but went to the wedding without his wife and other daughter. the guy saw no wrong in this behavior. but in all honesty, the guy is weak and had no backbone to correct the wrong doing.



I said all of that to say this, yes, people are going through hell based upon their decisions. and it is a complete tragedy knowing these are good people who put their faith in SNAKES who beguiled them. some how hid the truth of themselves from their spouse. but when things unravel, the mentally ill forget to correct situations they find acceptable. and this leaves normally sane people with the realization they are married to the DEVIL!!
Edited by iam_resurrected on Sun 06/17/18 07:00 PM
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Unknow

Mon 06/18/18 11:39 AM

BigD9832 Everyone will exist eternally either in heaven or hell (Daniel 12:2,3; Matthew 25:46; John 5:28; Revelation 20:14,15).

Mathew 2531 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life

and for any bible to be right it has to have 100 percent past, present, and future.
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Tue 06/19/18 09:52 AM

From diserli_gears
facts, in the New Testament Hell is mentioned even by Jesus himself , why it wasn't mentioned in the Old testament , there wasn't any place to present Hell at least according to biblical scholars


The fact is, the term "hell" is not mentioned at all in the Scriptures. Not even by Jesus. As I have said before, there is no ancient term that can be translated as "hell."

Another fact is that biblical scholars don't all agree on this subject. The Catholic ones tend to support "hell." Many of the others do not.

From dreamerana
you ever suppose people condemn themselves and hell is the life they live?
The choices they make produce grief and misery such that their world is filled with darkness.


There is no "hell" in the Scriptures. That is not to say that there is no punishment. There is. But it is NOT "eternal," but for an age (eon).

Many of us will be taught how to produc4e joy and love and fill their world with light. Jesus will teach us all this.

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Tue 06/19/18 12:23 PM

From bred69
BigD9832 Everyone will exist eternally either in heaven or hell (Daniel 12:2,3; Matthew 25:46; John 5:28; Revelation 20:14,15).


Not true.

There is no word for eternity in the Scriptures. The Ancient Koine Greek term 'aion' means "age," not "eternity."

CLV Luke 1:33 and He shall reign over the house of Jacob for the eons. And of His kingdom there shall be not consummation."

How many "forevers" did you think there are?

Strong's

G165 aion ahee-ohn'
from the same as G104;

properly, an age; by extension, perpetuity (also past); by implication, the world; specially (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future). Compare G5550.


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Ɔʎɹɐx

Wed 06/27/18 02:59 PM

Is There a Place Called Hell

Sure, a narrow street where you're stuck behind an empty taxi and ahead of an ambulance.
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Argo

Wed 06/27/18 03:37 PM

to all those self-proclaimed Evangelical Christians who are
anti-immigrant, anti-welfare and have no empathy for those
less fortunate than themselves..please read these words
carefully....they are from YOUR BOOK..


Mathew 2531 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life


your hypocrisy has earned you a seat on the left side, please sit down..
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BigD9832

Wed 06/27/18 04:02 PM

From argo63
to all those self-proclaimed Evangelical Christians who are
anti-immigrant, anti-welfare and have no empathy for those
less fortunate than themselves..please read these words
carefully....they are from YOUR BOOK..


Actually, the KJV is not MY book.

CLV Matt 25:46 And these shall be coming away into chastening eonian, yet the just into life eonian.

The word "eternal" is missing. I wonder why?

CLV Matt 7:1 Do not judge, lest you may be judged,

We are not commissioned to judge one another. This includes you.


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Argo

Wed 06/27/18 04:18 PM


From argo63
to all those self-proclaimed Evangelical Christians who are
anti-immigrant, anti-welfare and have no empathy for those
less fortunate than themselves..please read these words
carefully....they are from YOUR BOOK..


Actually, the KJV is not MY book.

CLV Matt 25:46 And these shall be coming away into chastening eonian, yet the just into life eonian.

The word "eternal" is missing. I wonder why?

CLV Matt 7:1 Do not judge, lest you may be judged,

We are not commissioned to judge one another. This includes you.



OK...it doesn't matter to me. I've already been excluded by
Christians for not believing in exactly the same way as they do..
so, if they think I'm going to hell... then good for them
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diserli_gears

Wed 06/27/18 04:36 PM

Ive never said I did, nor will I

I will help a vet anytime and I have.

just talking about the hypocrisy you claim Christians have

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BigD9832

Wed 06/27/18 08:22 PM

From argo63
OK...it doesn't matter to me. I've already been excluded by
Christians for not believing in exactly the same way as they do..
so, if they think I'm going to hell... then good for them


There is no "hell." How can you go to a place that doesn't exist?

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BlakeIAM

Sat 06/30/18 07:46 AM

There is a lake of fire.
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BigD9832

Sat 06/30/18 09:17 AM

From BlakeIAM
There is a lake of fire.


The Lake of Fire is not "hell." We know this because of...

CLV Rev 20:14 And death and the unseen were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death--the lake of fire.

So the "unseen" can not cast itself into itself.

But I did not address the Lake of Fire. '
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I have said and will repeat, there is no "hell" in the Scriptures.

Also, no one goes into the Lake of Fire for "eternity."

So there is no "eternal" punishment.

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diserli_gears

Sat 06/30/18 09:31 AM

So where is this lake of fire?

Which country is it? since its mentioned in the scriptures, so where is it?

Antarctica , Africa? southern Mississippi? where?

Could it be in hell, surrounding hell, next to hell?

Fire, brimstone, Hell, yeah I think the lake of fire is in Hell.

So Hell does exist.
Edited by diserli_gears on Sat 06/30/18 09:32 AM
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Tom4Uhere

Sat 06/30/18 10:13 AM

Where is Hell?

~shrouded by an opaque layer of highly reflective clouds of sulfuric acid, preventing its surface from being seen from space in visible light.
~surface is a dry desertscape interspersed with slab-like rocks and is periodically resurfaced by volcanism.
~extremely dense atmosphere composed of 96.5% carbon dioxide, 3.5% nitrogen, and less than 1% of O2, H2O and CH4 (methane) and traces of other gases, most notably sulfur dioxide.
~surface temperatures of at least 735 K (462 C; 864 F).
This temperature is higher than that used for sterilization.
It appears to have been completely resurfaced 300 to 500 million years ago.
It's not clear how and why this occurred.
Huge lava flows, extending for hundreds of kilometers, have flooded the lowlands creating vast plains.
More than 100,000 small shield volcanoes dot the surface along with hundreds of large volcanoes.
Flows from volcanoes have produced long sinuous channels extending for hundreds of kilometers, with one extending nearly 7,000 kilometers.

*SOURCE: http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/ast121/lectures/lec11.html



Venus

If there is any place that might be described as Hell, Venus is the place.
The Sun doesn't qualify because of the absence of burning sulfur.
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BlakeIAM

Sat 06/30/18 11:23 AM


From BlakeIAM
There is a lake of fire.


The Lake of Fire is not "hell." We know this because of...

CLV Rev 20:14 And death and the unseen were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death--the lake of fire.

So the "unseen" can not cast itself into itself.

But I did not address the Lake of Fire. '
'
I have said and will repeat, there is no "hell" in the Scriptures.

Also, no one goes into the Lake of Fire for "eternity."

So there is no "eternal" punishment.




At least you agree that there is a lake of fire .
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BigD9832

Sun 07/01/18 05:23 AM


There is no "hell." The Lake of Fire is certainly not "hell." And there is no Ancient term that can be translated into English as the word "hell" the way we use it.

There is no place "hell" can be because it does not exist. Jesus never used that term "hell." That was about 1000 years before English.


The Ancient Hebrew term 'sheol' was translated to the Ancient Greek term 'hades.' It is the same word. Unfortunately 'hades' comes with some baggage from Greek Mythology.

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BlakeIAM

Sun 07/01/18 06:43 AM

Yes I know. Those who are lost are cast into the Lake of Fire after The Great White Throne Judgment.
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NOBootyHunter

Sun 07/01/18 07:09 AM

Don't know for certain but if it gets any hotter today my vote is yes
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carefulwisher

Sun 07/01/18 09:44 AM

For a straight white 63-year-old male with a three-a-week libido who voted for Trump, of course hell exists. It's called Seattle.
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BigD9832

Sun 07/01/18 12:10 PM

From BlakeIAM
Yes I know. Those who are lost are cast into the Lake of Fire after The Great White Throne Judgment.


But not for eternity.