Topic: The proof is in the pudding
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BigD9832

Sun 05/27/18 08:27 PM


A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.

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The Wrong Alice

Sun 05/27/18 08:32 PM

I want to see a Shakti Goddess
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BlakeIAM

Sun 05/27/18 10:24 PM

Jesus Christ is God.
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iam_resurrected

Sun 05/27/18 11:00 PM


So I see no refute to the verses provided.
Jesus Christ is (obviously) God, and the concept of the trinity clearly exist without a shadow of a doubt.






that is because of the bible you use [is based in terms of believing the trinity].


but the proper john 10:30 from the Jewish bible is clear.

30 I and the Father are one."

this means the SAME!!

as in NO TRINITY!!



another verse from the JEWISH BIBLE that explains that Yeshua is God!!


Colossians 1:15 CJB

15 He is the visible image of the invisible God. He is supreme over all creation,




it would do you some good to stop reading the KJV and to ignore the GREEK version.

if you want to understand who God is, it is always best to read the interpretation from God's CHOSEN PEOPLE [the Jews]!!

and the Messianic Jews do not believe in the 3 or trinity concept. even the Jews who deny Yeshua defined Elohim as ONE GOD, not more than one.

Genesis 1:27 CJB

27 So God created humankind in his own image; in the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.


*his own image = singular, not 3




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BlakeIAM

Sun 05/27/18 11:08 PM

The concept of the Trinity absolutely exists.
Without a shadow of a doubt.
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tombraider

Sun 05/27/18 11:12 PM



when God speaks I will listen ..when GOD writes his own book I will read it..but when mankind speaks for God..I laugh...

I find it funny how many read a book and can quote scripture backwards and forwards as if their interpretation is the correct one for others..when it's just the correct one for themselves..and of course they will argue or debate with defiance as if they know any more than the next person..when all they know is the word of man..whether spoken or written...spock

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iam_resurrected

Sun 05/27/18 11:21 PM


The concept of the Trinity absolutely exists.
Without a shadow of a doubt.







according to the kjv it is there. but it has been proven the kjv has been misinterpreted and bastardized.

if you really wanted the truth,you would read the Jewish version.
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iam_resurrected

Sun 05/27/18 11:27 PM




when God speaks I will listen ..when GOD writes his own book I will read it..but when mankind speaks for God..I laugh...

I find it funny how many read a book and can quote scripture backwards and forwards as if their interpretation is the correct one for others..when it's just the correct one for themselves..and of course they will argue or debate with defiance as if they know any more than the next person..when all they know is the word of man..whether spoken or written...spock







Yeshua said He did not come to bring peace, but to bring division.


why are you shocked none of us see the scriptures the same.

I bet if we both read a rules book for employment, we would see things differently on that.

your opinion is mute, because you clearly see this from your point of view only.



I used mute for a specific purpose, to which I believe you understand :wink:
Edited by iam_resurrected on Sun 05/27/18 11:44 PM
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iam_resurrected

Sun 05/27/18 11:30 PM




when God speaks I will listen ..when GOD writes his own book I will read it..but when mankind speaks for God..I laugh...

I find it funny how many read a book and can quote scripture backwards and forwards as if their interpretation is the correct one for others..when it's just the correct one for themselves..and of course they will argue or debate with defiance as if they know any more than the next person..when all they know is the word of man..whether spoken or written...spock








Sun 05/27/18 11:12 PM
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If there is a God I will wait for him to write his own book..If one takes up the bible or any religious text ..one has to believe in the words that were written by people they have never met before they can have faith in that which they wrote about...I don't think so..









why would a deity need to write their own manuscript?

a deity might hope you believe, but it won't stop the deity from doing as the deity had already planned on doing.

who are you, myself, or anyone to place an ultimatum on a deity?

you don't want to believe, that is for you to choose.

but just because you set a standard if said deity does such and such I will believe, does not mean the deity will bow to you in order for you to believe. the standard has already been set. and from that, you either believe or you don't.

it cracks me up that you actually perceive you are important enough to a deity to make an ultimatum rofl rofl rofl

if anything, one could conclude you hate Jews since that is the deity we are discussing.

so, maybe it's you don't want to accept a deity based upon the race of a certain people.

after all, it was the Hebrew/Jews who wrote the bible [that you want their deity to rewrite] oops
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tombraider

Mon 05/28/18 12:20 AM



..you sure make a lot of unfounded assumptions and false accusations....I hate Jews I hate jesus..no I just dislike those who think that I should have to believe as they do and if I don't than that makes me a hater....sounds rather judgemental



And where is the ultimatum..in the fact that I would rather listen to the word of GOD and not the word of man..that's not an ultimatum..that's just a fact..why would I want to make man's words my religion as opposed to talking or reading that which the lord himself has to say or write..

So hate on and falsely accuse with your.... religion..rofl



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iam_resurrected

Mon 05/28/18 12:28 AM




..you sure make a lot of unfounded assumptions and false accusations....I hate Jews I hate jesus..no I just dislike those who think that I should have to believe as they do and if I don't than that makes me a hater....sounds rather judgemental



And where is the ultimatum..in the fact that I would rather listen to the word of GOD and not the word of man..that's not an ultimatum..that's just a fact..why would I want to make man's words my religion as opposed to talking or reading that which the lord himself has to say or write..

So hate on and falsely accuse with your.... religion..rofl












I have no religion. I am probably the only one who views God how I view Him.

and I am not assuming, due to the concept that the Hebrew/Jews wrote about their God and claimed it was inspired by their God.

so, if their God is real [which I believe], and if He did in fact inspire them to write [which I believe], then what I read is basically from God already. albeit second hand, but nonetheless the concept is it is from God.
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The Wrong Alice

Mon 05/28/18 12:49 AM

If gods in tom cruise is he the messiah, or just a very naughty boy
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iam_resurrected

Mon 05/28/18 12:54 AM


If gods in tom cruise is he the messiah, or just a very naughty boy





one can only believe concerning Tom based upon his own confessions. and the group he follows is well known to not be about believing in the Hebrew deity or Yeshua.

so, I would not consider Tom to be a like believer from his own confession and choice of faith he follows.

therefore, he clearly is not the Messiah.

as for being a naughty boy, that is not for me to say.





good night R2d2r2d2 waving
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The Wrong Alice

Mon 05/28/18 01:06 AM

Nee
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notbeold

Mon 05/28/18 06:17 AM

I'm sick of Abrahamic story arguments; christians and jews and muslims always argue over the same story.

Where are the Janes and Hindus, and Buddhists, and all the rest ?

Surely some of them can attempt to enlighten us instead of bible bashing us. smile2
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BlakeIAM

Mon 05/28/18 06:35 AM



The concept of the Trinity absolutely exists.
Without a shadow of a doubt.







according to the kjv it is there. but it has been proven the kjv has been misinterpreted and bastardized.

if you really wanted the truth,you would read the Jewish version.



Actually it hasn't been bastardized.
It isn't a matter of what I want , but rather what is.
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The Wrong Alice

Mon 05/28/18 08:00 AM

I demand a shrubbery
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BigD9832

Mon 05/28/18 08:01 AM

From iam_resurrected
it would do you some good to stop reading the KJV and to ignore the GREEK version.
if you want to understand who God is, it is always best to read the interpretation from God's CHOSEN PEOPLE [the Jews]!!


All NTs come from the Ancient Koine Greek text. That would include your so-called "Jewish" Bible.

So to ignore the Greek would be to ignore the source of your Bible.

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BigD9832

Mon 05/28/18 08:05 AM

From R2d2r2d2
I want to see a Shakti Goddess




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The Wrong Alice

Mon 05/28/18 08:07 AM

Thank you sir