It will be interesting to see who the Democrats have running for president in 2020. I heard people claiming Obama abandoned them. Some people honestly thought that when a black man became president, they wouldn't have to pay bills anymore. Before he was elected, people were campaigning, if you can't pay your rent, vote Obama.

people are very under educated when it comes to what powers and restrictions a POTUS actually has. many believe its like a dictatorship where they single-handedly make everything they want to happen happen.

there were misinformed who didnt want to work and thought Obama was the ticket, I liken their ignorance to those who were misinformed and thought Trump making america great, would by synonymous with finally identifying it as a white nation officially.

It will be interesting to see if anything will be learned by the past elections, and if candidates with real qualifications will run on the actual part of the process they plan to play (and how), rather than promises built on a faulty premise of saviorism by any one politician.

there was one thing learned, the media and the democrats are so disconnected from reality that you shouldn't believe anything they say. The democrats and their main stream media partners are so dishonest that they fell for their own lies in 2016 election by thinking that Hillary would win, and from what I see now is they are still falling for their own lies. Trump is in a unique position where he may not even have to campaign in 2020, cause the democrats are doing nothing to boost their support. The leader of the DNC is doing a bang-up job" for the republicans". You need more Muslims to run your party. Lol. Lol

I'm still trying to figure out why it is that the Dems or DEEP STATE think that they have ANYTHING to say any more after all the corruption that has been exposed on their side of the fence..Their whole attempt at misdirection has failed them miserably and still they pursue..

Continue on as they may for it appears the longer this goes on the more of their misdeeds are exposed..Hell they don't even have enough sense to know when to quit..

So they come up with things like the KKK voted for Trump ..therefore he must be racist..well NEWS FLASH..there are people from all walks of life that vote doesn't make the candidates a member of the group that voted for them..And yet odd how that be the attempts of misdirection I mean a group of doctors voted for Trump ..does that make him a doctor..or priest or heroes or any other group that could've voted for him.. no

They go for the worst that they can..to bring about racial divide ..that ought to get the masses rioting..or they attempt to divide the sexes..just more misdiresction while they continue the game of sleight of hand and follow the bouncing ball that the MSM has thrown..

When will we the sheepie decide to take a step back and view the big picture rather than allow ourselves to be manipulated by everything they throw in our path..I honestly don't know after all they have been doing it for so long it may have embedded itself into our DNA..But the truth is..before we can make America great..we have to wake it up first...

I mainly agree with this, except that you Dems dont understand your history.

You say Trump has no real qualifying experience, yet you say Obama has qualifying experience and look what happened during his term

Before him Bush had experience, a Governor of a State, son of a President/Vice President and war hero, how did he do?

Before him Clinton, he had experience as a governor and how did he do?

Before him, Bush Sr, Reagan's V.P

Before him, Reagan, A governor.
Carter, A governor.
Ford, a million years in congress
Nixon, Eisenhower's VP and a million years in Congress.

many qualified presidents before Trump and yet you want to judge Trump because he is unorthodox.

That is the difference between the informed and uninformed , Informed people dont believe one man or woman in office can fix a thing we just deal with the what is in front of us.

Uniformed people believes that whoever is in office can change things because they are too uniformed to know any better, It doesn't matter if youre a conservative or liberal, ignorance runs in both camps.

double posts oops.

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and some may never learn to let go of the partisan rhetoric to see the best IDEAS and CANDIDATES that are in front of them ...

I am not "DEMS" I speak for myself, that's one.

I understand history as well as any, that's two.

Yes, look at what happened under Obama, we avoided the path to depression we were clearly on.


I dont judge Trump on mere 'unorthodox'. I judge him on what HE displays personally regarding his ignorance and unpreparedness and his documented past regarding tendency toward civil service or contribution.


Clinton led a pretty good economy (surplus more so than others since or before) so ... not sure your point there.

and again, experience has never been a GUARANTEE of the job that will be done, like with ANY employment, but it has been the minimal EXPECTATION.


I agree, informed people dont believe one man or woman can fix things, yet informed people do believe that when a group made up many times over of 'one man or woman' are working together, things do get done, so that 'one man or woman' does generally have certain roles expected in THEIR PART.

clearly obarry didn't save anyone from anything, and clearly he was the worst prez ever... Opinions aren't a biotch, are they?...

For someone that claims she understands history you are silent on the realities of what happened during the Bill Clinton era.

White middle upper class, the 1% and some working class did well under Bill Clinton's reign.

But a high number of african Americans DID NOT, under Clinton he had the highest number of prison inmates recorded since they started keeping record, remember his 1994 crime bill?

African Americans during his time had the highest unemployment rate and how his program affected people living in public housing, they say Clinton's program made it easier for public housing agencies to deny shelter to anyone with any sort of criminal history with the " one strike you're out" rule.

remember is 1996 dismantling of AFDC " the aid to families with dependent children and you wonder why a lot of them turn to crime?

Clinton also signed the repeal actually part repeal of Glass Steagall, and we know what that did in 2008.


I will judge Trump on his record after he leaves office and see how the economy is, you cant judge a president in his term unless he accomplishes something in his term or fails at something.

clearly , which is why political observations should be based on objective facts and information ...

its not silence since noone can simultaneously talk about every incident in history ever at any one time, nor should they

the topic was THIS NOVEMBER .. but to address these unrelated points ..


the 1994 Crime Bill tried to address several issues, some a miss and some a hit,

Im not sure WHERE you get your information about African american unemployment, but Clinton was president from 93 to 2001 and here is the graph of AA unemployment from 1972 to 2018



clearly showing that numbers FELL under Clinton

AFDC was merely changed to TANF, which added some limits to it, not an excuse for anyone to commit crime


I will ALSO Judge Trump on what he does, but prior to what a POTUS does, they are judged on many other things that garner the support they need to BECOME POTUS, and I will continue to consider those things too...

Whatever the case may be (not referring to the ridiculous Mueller "investigation ") President Trump is doing a great job.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then the goofy clown before him.

considering he didn't have the same MESS to contend with as the CLOWN before him, that has yet to be seen ...

Actually it was "seen" after his first 6 months.
Not that it was that hard of a task.

unlike preventing a recession from turning to a depression might be, preventing the auto and bank industries from crashing might be?


I just wonder what accomplishments have happened in six months that are on that same scale, let alone 'waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better"

Please.
Your savior Obama is a complete clown.
Stop "trying" to make him seem good.

He was and is evil.

Period.

he wasnt a savior or a 'clown'. He isnt evil. He was a POTUS, just like Trump, but with many more obstacles and issues to deal with during his Presidency.