Topic: Mosquitoes smarter than us
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Palghat

Wed 06/27/18 08:32 AM


One of Wikipedia's graph shows
an elephant weighing 2 tons has 251 billion neurons
a human, around 70kgs has 86 billion neurons

surprisingly (or not) the neurons to neurons and weights' ratios approximate to 3

Now A mosquito brain has 140,000 neurons; and weighs 2.5 milligram
i.e., 0.025 gm

going by the above math it has a comparable 4.6 times the neurons
we have

Here's a 3D rendering of the M-brain

https://www.the-scientist.com/image-of-the-day/image-of-the-day-mosquito-brain-29992

conclusion: swat, only after it's had a blood fill




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Tom4Uhere

Wed 06/27/18 08:47 AM

Its probably significant how the neurons are used in determining intelligence.
Humans use more neurons processing logic and reason, where mosquitoes use more neurons processing smell.

Everyone knows its not the size that counts but how you use it...
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Wed 06/27/18 08:47 AM
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Two

Wed 06/27/18 09:09 AM



Everyone knows its not the size that counts but how you use it...


Wait, WHAT!!!!! scared scared scared scared


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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Blondey111

Wed 06/27/18 10:33 AM

Mosquitos are fascinating .. did you know ..,
Only females bite : males are attracted to high frequency of wing.beats .. she beats her wings faster than 500 beats per second and can still locates capillary to suck blood ..obviously a multitasker..

They have been around since the dinosaurs and are one of our deadliest threats ..perhaps there is more to their intelligence than we realise waving

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Stu

Wed 06/27/18 10:41 AM


Mosquitos are fascinating .. did you know ..,
Only females bite : males are attracted to high frequency of wing.beats .. she beats her wings faster than 500 beats per second and can still locates capillary to suck blood ..obviously a multitasker..

They have been around since the dinosaurs and are one of our deadliest threats ..perhaps there is more to their intelligence than we realise waving




:thumbsup: now we know,... the rest of the story.drinks
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joethebricky

Wed 06/27/18 11:35 AM

I love a female that bites.

Although a Mosquito pricks you to suck out your blood, almost like a needle.
The Male feeds on nectar and causes no trouble whatsoever. Nothing new there then.

I used to get a cream that contained a citrus smell, lemon, they don’t like it and will stay away.
Some people produce a body odour that Mosquitoes don’t like.
It’s why in a group some people get bitten and some don’t.

I had to go to the tropical school of medicine near me a few years ago. Talking to a doctor there she told me they were confident that a vaccine would be produced within a few years, so they can’t be far away now.
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Blondey111

Wed 06/27/18 11:37 AM


I love a female that bites.

Although a Mosquito pricks you to suck out your blood, almost like a needle.
The Male feeds on nectar and causes no trouble whatsoever. Nothing new there then.

I used to get a cream that contained a citrus smell, lemon, they don’t like it and will stay away.
Some people produce a body odour that Mosquitoes don’t like.
It’s why in a group some people get bitten and some don’t.

I had to go to the tropical school of medicine near me a few years ago. Talking to a doctor there she told me they were confident that a vaccine would be produced within a few years, so they can’t be far away now.
a vaccine for what Joey .. they carry so many viruses ??
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joethebricky

Wed 06/27/18 11:43 AM



I love a female that bites.

Although a Mosquito pricks you to suck out your blood, almost like a needle.
The Male feeds on nectar and causes no trouble whatsoever. Nothing new there then.

I used to get a cream that contained a citrus smell, lemon, they don’t like it and will stay away.
Some people produce a body odour that Mosquitoes don’t like.
It’s why in a group some people get bitten and some don’t.

I had to go to the tropical school of medicine near me a few years ago. Talking to a doctor there she told me they were confident that a vaccine would be produced within a few years, so they can’t be far away now.
a vaccine for what Joey .. they carry so many viruses ??

Oh I forgot to mention, Malaria, I was In Africa for a few years, hence you need to know the do’s and dont’s.
Saw a few people with Malaria, not good at all.
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Blondey111

Wed 06/27/18 11:50 AM




I love a female that bites.

Although a Mosquito pricks you to suck out your blood, almost like a needle.
The Male feeds on nectar and causes no trouble whatsoever. Nothing new there then.

I used to get a cream that contained a citrus smell, lemon, they don’t like it and will stay away.
Some people produce a body odour that Mosquitoes don’t like.
It’s why in a group some people get bitten and some don’t.

I had to go to the tropical school of medicine near me a few years ago. Talking to a doctor there she told me they were confident that a vaccine would be produced within a few years, so they can’t be far away now.
a vaccine for what Joey .. they carry so many viruses ??

Oh I forgot to mention, Malaria, I was In Africa for a few years, hence you need to know the do’s and dont’s.
Saw a few people with Malaria, not good at all.
malaria is the most widely known disease but they can cause encephalitis and a multitude of zoonotic viruses and pathogens .. it is not just human blood they feed on .. their potential as a vector is very scary waving
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Tom4Uhere

Wed 06/27/18 11:50 AM

Mosquitoes are stimulated by a number of factors when seeking out a blood meal. Initially, they're attracted by the carbon dioxide we exhale. Body heat is probably important too, but once the mosquito gets closer, she will respond to the smell of a potential blood source's skin.

I worked in a shop located by a river at night.
We used to get clouds of mosquitoes.
We found that by eating garlic pills we didn't get attacked as much.
We had to take the bottoms off the bug zappers because they filled up too fast.
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joethebricky

Wed 06/27/18 12:00 PM





I love a female that bites.

Although a Mosquito pricks you to suck out your blood, almost like a needle.
The Male feeds on nectar and causes no trouble whatsoever. Nothing new there then.

I used to get a cream that contained a citrus smell, lemon, they don’t like it and will stay away.
Some people produce a body odour that Mosquitoes don’t like.
It’s why in a group some people get bitten and some don’t.

I had to go to the tropical school of medicine near me a few years ago. Talking to a doctor there she told me they were confident that a vaccine would be produced within a few years, so they can’t be far away now.
a vaccine for what Joey .. they carry so many viruses ??

Oh I forgot to mention, Malaria, I was In Africa for a few years, hence you need to know the do’s and dont’s.
Saw a few people with Malaria, not good at all.
malaria is the most widely known disease but they can cause encephalitis and a multitude of zoonotic viruses and pathogens .. it is not just human blood they feed on .. their potential as a vector is very scary waving

Yes quite a few deadly diseases, I’ve had a jab for yellow fever.
That tropical school of medicine is an interesting place, world renowned and in your birthplace I believe.
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Blondey111

Wed 06/27/18 12:21 PM






I love a female that bites.

Although a Mosquito pricks you to suck out your blood, almost like a needle.
The Male feeds on nectar and causes no trouble whatsoever. Nothing new there then.

I used to get a cream that contained a citrus smell, lemon, they don’t like it and will stay away.
Some people produce a body odour that Mosquitoes don’t like.
It’s why in a group some people get bitten and some don’t.

I had to go to the tropical school of medicine near me a few years ago. Talking to a doctor there she told me they were confident that a vaccine would be produced within a few years, so they can’t be far away now.
a vaccine for what Joey .. they carry so many viruses ??

Oh I forgot to mention, Malaria, I was In Africa for a few years, hence you need to know the do’s and dont’s.
Saw a few people with Malaria, not good at all.
malaria is the most widely known disease but they can cause encephalitis and a multitude of zoonotic viruses and pathogens .. it is not just human blood they feed on .. their potential as a vector is very scary waving

Yes quite a few deadly diseases, I’ve had a jab for yellow fever.
That tropical school of medicine is an interesting place, world renowned and in your birthplace I believe.
yes it is in Liverpool .. very tropical .. laughing .
The problem with any antimalarial vaccine is the growing threat of parasitic resistance .. there are many strains of malaria .. some which are already showing resistance to current therapeutic regimes . I guess it is a wait and see . The trials wil take a few years and will only be relevant to the chosen locations .
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greeneyes148

Wed 06/27/18 02:32 PM



One of Wikipedia's graph shows
an elephant weighing 2 tons has 251 billion neurons
a human, around 70kgs has 86 billion neurons

surprisingly (or not) the neurons to neurons and weights' ratios approximate to 3

Now A mosquito brain has 140,000 neurons; and weighs 2.5 milligram
i.e., 0.025 gm

going by the above math it has a comparable 4.6 times the neurons
we have

Here's a 3D rendering of the M-brain

https://www.the-scientist.com/image-of-the-day/image-of-the-day-mosquito-brain-29992

conclusion: swat, only after it's had a blood fill







I like when they hit the zapper on the patio.. that zap sound and blue light... nice
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Palghat

Wed 06/27/18 09:11 PM


Tom and Blondey111, you people are simply great. And thanks to others, you guys may have noticed the fatal error. Anyway corrected figures:

Mosquito weight at 2.5 mg = 0.0025gms (w/o h_blood weight)

elephants weigh from 2.7 to 6 tons;
let's stay with the original 2 tons, assuming female with less ivory

Neurons figures remaining same: 250 B, 86 B and 140,000


Correction 2: Elephant has 3 times the brain and 28 times the weight

Finding Neurons / Weight ratios and comparing them turns out

Man is 9.8 times smarter than Elephant

and 22 times brighter than Mosquito

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These figures surfaced while searching for the percentage of neurons in human brain genetically scripted (or hardwired) at birth. Seems like babies can hear & recognize sound (mother's) from 7 month fetus; are born virtually blind but instantly begin to gain hazy sight

"The dogma is that after a certain age the brain is unable to process visual inputs it has never received before," explains cognitive scientist Amy Kalia of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in Cambridge.

Consequently, eye surgeons in India often refuse to treat children blinded by cataracts since infancy if they are over the age of seven. Such children are not usually found in wealthier countries such as the United States — where cataracts are treated as early as possible — but are tragically plentiful in India. - Nature


In other words, babies think visually by year one and considering neuron to weight ratios may actually be smarter than we think. For instance some babies just refuse to speak till age 2. helps negotiate better? - ahem.