#whereistheserver?

Standing next to the Master.

just averted a potential depression, speaking of what 'would have happened if' .....

just potentially saved US automaking industry and Wall street

just potentially reversed the trend of hemorrhaging hundreds of thousands of jobs A MONTH

just over saw a switch in the health system that gave millions more a chance at affordable coverage

just oversaw the taking out of the terrorist leader OF that time


IF we are going to get into all the 'what would have happened if', scenarios, I believe he did plenty

is it worse to ignore morning intelligence reports (if that is even true) or to ignore entire intelligence communities and accuse them of making things up or going on witch hunts?

There is always a terrorist group, several in fact, one is hit (al queda) and another pops up to take its place, regardless of the President

Releasing domestic terrorists who burned public lands for what?


like I said, one side is applauded, the other criticized, spin follows bias and hypocrisy continues

you mean like" you can keep your doctor, no we don't support that lie.or do you mean when he told joe the plumber he should give away part of his pay to someone that won't work, no we think able bodied people should earn their way. Or maybe you mean when Obama let Asad use chemical weapons on his people after he said that was a red line, no thanks we like or leaders to have a backbone. How about all the regulations he put in place to make it near impossible for a small business to grow. No we want folks to have jobs. Obama slammed cops a number of times. We like to have our law enforced.open borders ? Not for us. I can't speak for others but I can't think of one thing Obama did that I or millions of others can support.

or like Mexico will pay for the wall,,, the bias is in DETAILS ....

some 'lies' are supported and some aren't, still happening, on both sides. Still American as apple pie.

Or maybe you mean when Trump consistently stands up for Russia and does not acknowledge intelligence that their people interfered with the election, we need a President that shows backbone.

How about all the minority demographics he is placing policies to go against and make enemy number one, that make it near impossible for the small PERSON to prosper?

We want people to have jobs that PAY a decent wage to live upon. Slaves had 'jobs', and paying them a penny a day would not have made it suck any less to be a slave.

Trump slammed soldiers, their families, and the intelligence communities a few times, we like to have our military backed up.

Open Borders? We have never really had them. We have REGULATED borders, did under Obama and still do under Trump.

I can't speak for others, but I can think of things both Obama and Trump have done and have not done. But I try to unlearn the status quo American hypocrisy and bias poisoning our culture and our politics.

There is not one thing one side can dream up of that has not also happened on their own side. Their perspective just changes more with the WHO, than it does with the WHAT.

No. Sorry. Obama didn't really do anything, well, positive at least.


No, he didn't.
At best he averted the opposite (prosperity) through the fed and continuing Q.E. leading to more of a stagnation.
The bailouts and Q.E. were started under Bush.
Obama simply had the option to continue what Bush started.
...Obama chose to continue what Bush and that congress had already passed.


Not really. He didn't "save" them so much as strong armed them into a political style bankruptcy, through the unions forcing automakers to take government money to save union jobs, which decimated shareholders, and forced GM to layoff thousands....but the company name and unions (pay) were saved.

He "saved" wall street by doubling the national debt and pumping a trillion dollars a year of free money into the system. Kept it from going down, but inhibited it from going up.
He robbed peter to pay paul so peter couldn't hire anybody and paul could feed his kids.


Huh? "Potentially?" That seems to be saying "he might have possibly could have done something maybe."
I don't think he gets credit for that...

Other than that, using federal statistics (which is probably not the best idea, since that is another Obama accomplishment, he changed how a lot of things are measured, like applying double+ seasonal adjustments, which paint a magically more rosy picture, or relying more heavily on the birth/death model to calculate new jobs opening, like if %50 of the u.s. is employed, 100 people die, 50 are born, then that must mean 25 "new" jobs!) u.s. companies increased foreign workforce more than domestic every year he was in office.

And remember what Obama kept promising to do? On the campaign trail, in office, and congress fought him on?
Raise tariffs, accuse China of currency manipulation (although Obama did want to avoid a trade war so didn't).


A "chance" at coverage most people couldn't afford to use as the deductibles were too high, with the following years the premiums doubled, tripled, or more (and deductibles rose), leading to a rapid increase in health care costs, decreasing benefits, decreasing options, forced more people into medicare/medicaid, and losing their preferred doctor when promised they could keep it, promised it wasn't a tax then ruled legal due to it being a tax, wasted half a billion on the website.

Is that a positive? More people could afford to pay an insurance company but not actually use the health insurance, or use it and not get what they needed? Or get what they needed and then find out next year they couldn't afford the coverage?


His positive accomplishment is that he watched people kill a guy, or his actions led to the capture of a guy that was killed?



He did a lot.
Not much to anything positive.
And in doing all that he pretty much doubled the national debt.


I'd say delusional and/or ignorant more than hypocritical.
Each side has their own narrative they wish to see, and avoid actually seeing anything beyond.

Actually it was five not four. They weren't just any prisoners either they were battle hardened Taliban Generals that Obama put back into the field for one traitor. This traitor is hated by his fellow soldiers so much that the DOD has a Delta team providing security for him 24/7 because his fellow soldiers want him dead.

Really? What about Obama telling Dimitry to just wait out the 2012 election and Putin will get what he wants...…. But that was ok I guess because it was Obama.

same bias/different day