Its 2018.
The United States is a world power and a nation of educated, 1st world people.
The fix for illegal aliens entering our country is not a wall or tighter borders.
The fix, the real fix, is to remove the reason why people would want to illegally enter.

Think about it for a minute.

Why do people try to come to the United States from Mexico illegally?
We don't have that issue at our Canadian border.

As a 1st world power we have the intelligence and the resources to help Mexico also become a 1st world power. What keeps Mexico from attaining that status?
Corruption.

There are entities in Mexico that want to end corruption. They want to end cartel power and remove the oppression from their country.
The United States has this war on drugs thing going but its the most ineffective war ever fought.
This is because there are limits to how it must be fought. There is corrupt people in power in Mexico that prevents doing what needs to be done.

We have the ability to work with the Mexican government to end the cartels and the oppression by corruption in Mexico but we don't.
To remove the illegal immigration problem the fix is to cause the people not to want to or need to leave their country in search of a better life.
Bring Mexico to 1st world status.
Then Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Columbia and right on down the continent.
Go in and permanently remove the oppression. Eliminate the cartels and warmongers. Establish national pride in the people for their own home country and they won't want to come to the United States for a better life.

Canada and USA help Mexico fix Mexico.
Canada, USA and Mexico help Guatemala fix Guatemala and so on.
It could be done. Yes, warmongers and cartels would die. Oppressive regimes would be toppled and a lot of people would have to be jailed or eliminated but it could be done.

Why are cartels still in power in Mexico?
Because it is more profitable to allow them power and influence.
The DEA needs drugs in the USA. They Want drugs in the USA.

Remove the reason why someone would want to escape their country and you significantly reduce the number of illegal immigrants seeking a better life. End 3rd world oppression and people won't have a reason to leave their country.
Few 1st world immigrants are illegal.

Well that sounds nice but you cant fix a country when

1) You have a war on drugs

2) you have governments that don't understand the power of free markets

3) you have businesses that hire illegals that are only fined if they are caught

Even if you build the wall people will still come over.

I like what Canada does and this is why we don't have that problem, we have other problems like Deportees once they are deported are flying or boating to Mexico and the treks through the United States to then sneaks into Canada whether it through B.C/Washington, North Dakota to Manitoba or Vermont to Quebec.

Most of them end up in Toronto, Hamilton or Montreal and they are criminals.

the one thing Canada does right is Illegals cannot get HealthCare card, Drivers license or a temporary SIN card, you call it Social security card there and they cannot get welfare directly.

The problem with Mexico is you have a large portion of the population that is illiterate and uneducated and they have a disadvantage, The Mexican government is having a hard time with them and some of them are easy pickins for the drug cartels.

I compare it to African americans before Civil rights came it, how they were treated as second class citizens , and look how long it took before some of the blacks in America rose up and became prosperous, its going to take something like that to help the poor in Mexico and other places.

If the U.S. Canadian, Mexico, Colombian and other countries are interested in fixing the problem, eliminating the war on drugs is a good start.

But those countries need a system in place to help the underprivileged and welfare isn't the answer.

And American authorities have to use draconian measures against businesses that hire illegals and landlords who houses them.

No more welfare and generous supplementary programs to help them out, if you don't make it hard for them why would they stop coming?

You want to stop illegals from coming to the U.S.?

Pass a law that heavily fines or revokes the business license of anybody who employs an illegal alien.

Okay. Well, although there have been international invasions and government decapitations and imperial expansions such as you are advocating, which have happened repeatedly over the thousands of years humans have been around, there has never been an occasion where the strategy of "fixing" another country by invading it, ever actually worked.

And although more thorough enforcement of existing laws against employing illegals might help, you wont find any support for it (past lip service) from either of the largest American political parties. The Republicans used to oppose any attempt to require national identity documentation, and though they've reversed course on that over the years, they are still adamantly opposed to spending the amount of money needed to actually enforce even the existing laws against employing illegals. No one supported Trump's campaign proposal to expand INS or the justice system enough to deal with existing cases, and neither party has supported investigation and prosecution of employers.

If your goal is to make it less desirable to come to the US illegally, there are other options you could consider. Such as,put an end to allowing American companies to hire foreign workers at below living wages, even while they are still in their home countries; to prevent foreign companies from selling in the US market, if their national governments allow either slave labor, or oppression of the working classes.

You could also support the opposite of that, which has been proposed by a subset of the Republicans: reverse all American laws requiring safe working environments, end all anti-pollution controls, eliminate all worker rights entirely, and allow American companies to behave as badly and as corruptly as foreign companies do, so that the US wont be attractive any more.

But invasion and "repair" of foreign countries? It never works.

Okay. Well, although there have been international invasions and government decapitations and imperial expansions such as you are advocating, which have happened repeatedly over the thousands of years humans have been around, there has never been an occasion where the strategy of "fixing" another country by invading it, ever actually worked.

And although more thorough enforcement of existing laws against employing illegals might help, you wont find any support for it (past lip service) from either of the largest American political parties. The Republicans used to oppose any attempt to require national identity documentation, and though they've reversed course on that over the years, they are still adamantly opposed to spending the amount of money needed to actually enforce even the existing laws against employing illegals. No one supported Trump's campaign proposal to expand INS or the justice system enough to deal with existing cases, and neither party has supported investigation and prosecution of employers.

If your goal is to make it less desirable to come to the US illegally, there are other options you could consider. Such as,put an end to allowing American companies to hire foreign workers at below living wages, even while they are still in their home countries; to prevent foreign companies from selling in the US market, if their national governments allow either slave labor, or oppression of the working classes.

You could also support the opposite of that, which has been proposed by a subset of the Republicans: reverse all American laws requiring safe working environments, end all anti-pollution controls, eliminate all worker rights entirely, and allow American companies to behave as badly and as corruptly as foreign companies do, so that the US wont be attractive any more.

But invasion and "repair" of foreign countries? It never works.

Okay. Well, although there have been international invasions and government decapitations and imperial expansions such as you are advocating, which have happened repeatedly over the thousands of years humans have been around, there has never been an occasion where the strategy of "fixing" another country by invading it, ever actually worked.

And although more thorough enforcement of existing laws against employing illegals might help, you wont find any support for it (past lip service) from either of the largest American political parties. The Republicans used to oppose any attempt to require national identity documentation, and though they've reversed course on that over the years, they are still adamantly opposed to spending the amount of money needed to actually enforce even the existing laws against employing illegals. No one supported Trump's campaign proposal to expand INS or the justice system enough to deal with existing cases, and neither party has supported investigation and prosecution of employers.

If your goal is to make it less desirable to come to the US illegally, there are other options you could consider. Such as,put an end to allowing American companies to hire foreign workers at below living wages, even while they are still in their home countries; to prevent foreign companies from selling in the US market, if their national governments allow either slave labor, or oppression of the working classes.

You could also support the opposite of that, which has been proposed by a subset of the Republicans: reverse all American laws requiring safe working environments, end all anti-pollution controls, eliminate all worker rights entirely, and allow American companies to behave as badly and as corruptly as foreign companies do, so that the US wont be attractive any more.

But invasion and "repair" of foreign countries? It never works.

I guess you read some of what I wrote... I'm not advocating invading anything. Read it again.
I suggested that Canada and USA HELP Mexico not invade Mexico.
Then, Canada, USA and Mexico HELP Guatemala, then Canada, USA, Mexico and Guatemala HELP Honduras and so on down the hemisphere until all the countries on the American Hemisphere are 1st world.

Why is that such a difficult concept to understand?
Earth has the technology and the resources yet the technology and resources are being withheld from global advancement by the stingy, "The Oppressors".

none of that makes any sense whatsoever....more anti Republican babble?

You could also support the opposite of that, which has been proposed by a subset of the Republicans: reverse all American laws requiring safe working environments, end all anti-pollution controls, eliminate all worker rights entirely, and allow American companies to behave as badly and as corruptly as foreign companies do, so that the US wont be attractive any more.


which is exactly where ultraconservative union busting republicans have been leading us for years. motowndowntown

You can't understand it, wont research why, and so you post an insult.

Doesn't advance the discussion.