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Serchin4MyRedWine

Tue 07/31/18 11:10 AM

Just to expand on this topic a bit.

Those of us old enough to remember(omg..showing my age), back in the 70's the tree huggers or "environmentalists" stop the logging in a lot of areas in CA.

There were a lot less wild fires because logging removed a lot of the old growth and underbrush that feeds these fires.

Now we have these huge uncontrolled fires spewing lots of carbon emissions...so much for the "environmentalists" laugh

Tom4Uhere

Tue 07/31/18 11:31 AM

Toodygirl5

Tue 07/31/18 12:04 PM

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Yes, because the internet and the NEWS is so accurate and reliable.

Concerning fires and people's lives yes. I believe so !

Edited by Toodygirl5 on Tue 07/31/18 12:05 PM

catinidaho

Tue 07/31/18 06:37 PM

California doesn't have a fire season anymore, it's year round because they've been having a drought for so long. Anything can start a fire, mostly lightning. I hear more details on the tv news because I live not that far away from there.

greeneyes148

Wed 08/01/18 11:56 AM

I have been out there many times ( Mostly the L.A. area) and I was always amazed at where they built houses. The foot hills, crevasses and steep areas, while it is a terrible situation it is no wonder.. after you see where they build.

Same here in Jersey but with the Ocean. A hurricane or Nor'easter wipes out the beach front homes.. as soon as the sun shines.. they rebuild... same spots.. 5 years later.. wiped out again. over and over.

Toodygirl5

Wed 08/01/18 12:00 PM

I often wondered why people keep doing that , rebuilding in those areas.

Toodygirl5

Tue 08/07/18 03:53 PM

Fires spread to almost the size of LA

This is the. States worst Fires ever! 14,000+ firemen battling the flames.

Firemen coming to help as for away as NZ .

ABC. News this evening!

Edited by Toodygirl5 on Tue 08/07/18 03:54 PM

Rock

Wed 08/08/18 09:05 AM

The Mendocino fire, is reported to be the
largest fire in California history.

Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 09:21 AM

They showed a firenado on the news this morning. 1st time I've ever seen a real one. (Not computer generated)

shovelheaddave

Wed 08/08/18 03:39 PM

There is much going on that Trump is not responsible for. :wink:

he is not doing the things that he could to HELP solve the problem,though,and there are LOTS of things that he is doing to make it worse!!!

by not admitting that global climate change is a problem that is affecting our weather,and weather patterns,he is only helping to make it worse!!

by trying to do things like cutting emission standards on cars and trucks,he is making the problem worse!

by trying to cut the mileage standards that were set to go into place on our cars and trucks to save the auto makers money,and putting more money into the pockets of big oil,he is making the problem worse!

by trying to save the outdated coal industry,instead of doing things to support green/renewable energy sources,he is making things worse

by putting people who have made it their life long careers to try to stop the E.P.A. from dong things to help the enviornment,IN CHARGE of the E.P.A.,he is making the problem worse!!!

by trying to un-do EVERYTHING that barack Obama did t help save the planet,just because he is ignorant,and EXTREMELY INSECURE,he is making the problem worse!!

so,you can say that trump is not responsible for the warming of the planet that is the cause of all of these disasters,but by not doing everything that he can to help solve the problem,like a RESPONSIBLE president should,he IS responsible for what happens next!!!

BlakeIAM

Wed 08/08/18 03:40 PM

SMH.

Rock

Thu 08/09/18 08:46 AM

California was okay...

Until the hippies took over and screwed
it up.

Easttowest72

Thu 08/09/18 08:52 AM

There is much going on that Trump is not responsible for. :wink:

California should have been doing a controlled burn. But that would pollute the air the tree huggers say. Now they see the results. Liberals blame Trump for everything. :disappointed:

Tom4Uhere

Thu 08/09/18 10:04 AM

As many as 90 percent of wildland fires in the United States are caused by humans. Human-caused fires result from campfires left unattended, the burning of debris, negligently discarded cigarettes, and intentional acts of arson.
Source: http://www.nps.gov/articles/wildfire-causes-and-evaluations.htm

Sometimes, firefighters create a controlled burn to direct the fire's spread. In a technique called "firing out," a fire is created between the wildfire and a natural barrier, such as a road, to remove any vegetation in the wildfire's path. ... The foam acts as insulation to prevent unburned fuels from catching fire.
Source: http://www.livescience.com/39367-how-to-fight-wildfires.html

Be certain to completely extinguish cigarettes before disposing of them. Follow local ordinances when burning yard waste. Avoid backyard burning in windy conditions, and keep a shovel, water, and fire retardant nearby to keep fires in check. Remove all flammables from yard when burning.
Source: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/natural-disasters/wildfire-safety-tips/

Its a combination of an ax and hoe used to dig a fireline. A fireline is a strip of land from which all brush and debris have been cleared to rob a wildfire of its fuel. Firefighters also use hotshots and smoke jumpers to clear a large path in a big circle around the fire so the blaze is contained in a ring of dirt.
Source: http://www.wfmz.com/weather/how-do-firefighters-put-out-the-wildfires_20160526092950977/16504622

Fire is a natural part of both forest and grassland ecology and controlled fire can be a tool for foresters. Hazard reduction or controlled burning is conducted during the cooler months to reduce fuel buildup and decrease the likelihood of serious hotter fires.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_burn

When embers from a lit tree burn leaves, bark, or twigs, they can travel, via wind, to homes, other flammable areas, or even across rivers. ... Lightning strikes and human activity are the two main causes of wildfires on Earth, which routinely spread to burn thousands of acres every fire season.
Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/09/06/the-terrifying-physics-of-how-wildfires-spread-so-fast/#7bbc4e9c7791

They can move as fast as 10.8 kilometers per hour (6.7 mph) in forests and 22 kilometers per hour (14 mph) in grasslands.
Source: http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+prevent+forest+fires&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Firestorm (1998)
Red Skies of Montana (1952)
Smoke Jumpers (A.K.A. In the Line of Duty: Smoke Jumpers; 1996)
Superfire (2002)
Trial by Fire (A.K.A. Smoke Jumper; 2008)
Only the Brave (2017)
Fire! (1977)

Toodygirl5

Thu 08/09/18 11:37 AM

There is much going on that Trump is not responsible for. :wink:

California should have been doing a controlled burn. But that would pollute the air the tree huggers say. Now they see the results. Liberals blame Trump for everything. :disappointed:

petenh

Thu 08/09/18 12:12 PM

California wildfires caused by TERRORISM? Or caused by Flipping magnetic poles? HAARP programs?

Contrary to even what that sage old Smokey Bear told us ("Only YOU can prevent forest fires"), the chief cause of forest fires is ...

Lightning

Lightning hits this planet on the average of 8 MILLION times a day (https://learn.weatherstem.com/modules/learn/lessons/36/02.html). When it hits in the desert, there is not as much to burn, but when it hits in dry grasslands, arid tree areas, well, that is what causes fires. Now, fed by winds off the coast, these fires can travel.

No, Trump is not responsible for wildfires.

He is not responsible for the great economy or low unemployment either, but that is beside the point.

He might be responsible for the uptick in Cheetos sales among the stoner community, but there is no concrete evidence that concludes his unnatural coloring or vain comb-over is the reason.