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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 01:31 PM






Many threads have been started on the school shootings and I have commented on that as well, many times. My views on the animals that did that is common knowledge. But feel free to start another and I will comment.. again. But for now maybe we can stay on this subject.

As for " folk" that was just a nice way of saying black thugs.

So, since you feel that Chicago is not that bad, which city is? Detroit?, Baton Rouge?.. pick one. who is doing the crimes in the worst city?

Or we can take NYC since I know it pretty good, being that I grew up here and still live in the area. Here 76% of the violent crimes are committed by blacks although blacks represent only 21% of the total population in the city (5 boro's)

Without deferring this to some other group or incident, or pan the responsibility off to some government entity... how do you explain that?


In those school shooting threads did you ask about which 'folks' were doing it, I dont recall?

but thank you for once again interjecting race into the topic. AS a black female, I am so glad you can educate me about 'black thugs'.

Nowhere did I say Chicago is not 'that bad'. In fact, I only made the statement that it is not the 'worst'. Its kind of like saying a parent kidnapping their child is not the 'worst' crime (There are others like rape and assault I consider "WORSE" , get it?)

I dont have to explain who is committing crimes, most crime is intra racial(white on white and black on black) because people tend to vicitimize who they are around.





Did I call the shooter in the schools " folks" ?.. no I did not, know why.. because it was one person and he was killed or caught.. so everyone knew who it was. Do you call one person.. folks? And when I do say folks, it is because there are 1,000's of them.. not one lone shooter. Doesn't change the fact that I and everyone else on those threads called him for what he was.. a animal.. we never tried to deflect what he did.

And you could explain, but you won't.. because it is the same IN EVERY LARGE AND SMALL CITY. And it is black thugs... period.






I didnt deflect anything. You deflected from the simple topic of violence to 'black thugs'.

and I dont need to 'explain' why black people commit crimes anymore than you need to or have been asked to 'explain' why white people do.

this started out a thread on just violence in chicago, and slowly evolved into an excuse to critique and criticize black people.

when we had the threads on school shootings or mass shootings, I didnt see the racial experts chime in to point out who was doing what to whom though, I didnt see calls for us to be concerned about unstable 'crazy white kids', or some other racial derogatory description (like black thugs).

its fine if we are going to talk about violence, lets talk about it. Its what I was trying to do. But as a black woman, it gets old having people who are not black trying to debate with me about the 'problems' of 'black' people.






No deflection at all. When a topic is "Violence in Chicago" a logical question who be.. who is doing it. You see that as deflecting? asking who is doing it?

Really???

I see it as a normal question which is surely related to the topic.

Let me explain deflecting:
When a person is asked a point blank question and they change the subject.. entirely, ( i.e. you were asked who how you explain a 76% violent crime rate levied by a population of 21% and you answer with.. well, what about th white school shooters!, without answering the question).. that is deflecting

So I will leave it with this.
In Chicago, Baltimore, NYC, St. Lewis(s), Baton Rouge , Gary In. Newark, N.J. Camden N.J. Philly, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit, Pittsburgh, and most every other city big and small in the U.S. the majority of vast violent crimes are committed by black thugs.

Sorry, I know you hate to hear that, but the truth.. is the truth.

Regarding responses on school shooters:
In all the threads I have seen here on this subject.. everyone. Every single poster condemned what the sick animal had done.. every single person. No one deflected or tried to change the subject or tried to defend in any way, shape or form what had been done based on the color of the shooters skin.

And that is called..no agenda

Got to run now.. some work to do :)




and no one framed it as a 'white' problem either

in fact, it got framed as 'mental health' issue as opposed to targeting the race of the shooters ... what privilege, huh?

I wonder how many that embrace the 'mental health' frame for suburban shooters, could embrace the 'concentrated poverty' frame for urban shooters. They both have the same potential shoot down for those who prefer to blame race, after all,

plenty of mentally ill people dont shoot up schools, just like plenty of poor people dont shoot up urban streets.



no one here defended anything, so you can miss me with the bigoted sidetracks and questions.





Edited by msharmony on Wed 08/08/18 01:51 PM
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Sunryzer

Wed 08/08/18 03:09 PM

Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.
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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 03:12 PM


Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.

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Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 04:14 PM



Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.
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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 04:27 PM




Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa
Edited by msharmony on Wed 08/08/18 04:29 PM
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Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 04:32 PM





Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.
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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 04:40 PM






Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.
and PROBABLY many people are desperate and/or angry and not having the esteem to know how to or care to do better than what they are doing
Edited by msharmony on Wed 08/08/18 04:42 PM
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Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 04:44 PM







Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself
Edited by Easttowest72 on Wed 08/08/18 04:46 PM
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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 04:56 PM








Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself


except science does nor anatomy back up your theory that people are 'bred' to be violent.

Maybe school shootings are nature correcting itself? And teen suicides?

survival of the fittest and all ... 'cause THATS civil and logical...

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Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 05:02 PM









Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself


except science does nor anatomy back up your theory that people are 'bred' to be violent.

Maybe school shootings are nature correcting itself? And teen suicides?

survival of the fittest and all ... 'cause THATS civil and logical...




Dogs are bred for fighting. We have violent males in and out of prison breeding with lots of baby mama's passing on bad jeans. 8f it wasn't for welfare the mom and offspring wouldn't survive. So now dad and son's are in and out of jail reproducing. Like Elvis Presley song from over 40 years ago.
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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 05:21 PM










Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself


except science does nor anatomy back up your theory that people are 'bred' to be violent.

Maybe school shootings are nature correcting itself? And teen suicides?

survival of the fittest and all ... 'cause THATS civil and logical...




Dogs are bred for fighting. We have violent males in and out of prison breeding with lots of baby mama's passing on bad jeans. 8f it wasn't for welfare the mom and offspring wouldn't survive. So now dad and son's are in and out of jail reproducing. Like Elvis Presley song from over 40 years ago.



yes, and depressed miserable parents have depressed miserable kids, and busy successful parents have miserable depressed kids

was this thread about solutions or genocide?

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Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 05:52 PM











Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself


except science does nor anatomy back up your theory that people are 'bred' to be violent.

Maybe school shootings are nature correcting itself? And teen suicides?

survival of the fittest and all ... 'cause THATS civil and logical...




Dogs are bred for fighting. We have violent males in and out of prison breeding with lots of baby mama's passing on bad jeans. 8f it wasn't for welfare the mom and offspring wouldn't survive. So now dad and son's are in and out of jail reproducing. Like Elvis Presley song from over 40 years ago.



yes, and depressed miserable parents have depressed miserable kids, and busy successful parents have miserable depressed kids

was this thread about solutions or genocide?




You have said that people never do any better than their parents in poor communities. What if it isn't opportunity. What if it's genetics. What if the next generation is lazy and violent and nothing will ever help them. What if the best thing is the police stay out of it and let nature take its course. What if the best solution is to do nothing at all.
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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 06:38 PM












Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself


except science does nor anatomy back up your theory that people are 'bred' to be violent.

Maybe school shootings are nature correcting itself? And teen suicides?

survival of the fittest and all ... 'cause THATS civil and logical...




Dogs are bred for fighting. We have violent males in and out of prison breeding with lots of baby mama's passing on bad jeans. 8f it wasn't for welfare the mom and offspring wouldn't survive. So now dad and son's are in and out of jail reproducing. Like Elvis Presley song from over 40 years ago.



yes, and depressed miserable parents have depressed miserable kids, and busy successful parents have miserable depressed kids

was this thread about solutions or genocide?




You have said that people never do any better than their parents in poor communities. What if it isn't opportunity. What if it's genetics. What if the next generation is lazy and violent and nothing will ever help them. What if the best thing is the police stay out of it and let nature take its course. What if the best solution is to do nothing at all.


I have said that people RARELY move out of the financial class they are born into. That has nothing to do with their character or genes but the way the economy is set.

What if all the crimes in white communities are genetic, what if the next generation is just privileged and unable to cope with sharing and nothing will help them? what if the best thing to do is police and psychiatrists to stay out of it and let nature take its course? what if the best solution is to do nothing at all?



and still, is the thread about violence in chicago or genetics?


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Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 06:55 PM













Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself


except science does nor anatomy back up your theory that people are 'bred' to be violent.

Maybe school shootings are nature correcting itself? And teen suicides?

survival of the fittest and all ... 'cause THATS civil and logical...




Dogs are bred for fighting. We have violent males in and out of prison breeding with lots of baby mama's passing on bad jeans. 8f it wasn't for welfare the mom and offspring wouldn't survive. So now dad and son's are in and out of jail reproducing. Like Elvis Presley song from over 40 years ago.



yes, and depressed miserable parents have depressed miserable kids, and busy successful parents have miserable depressed kids

was this thread about solutions or genocide?




You have said that people never do any better than their parents in poor communities. What if it isn't opportunity. What if it's genetics. What if the next generation is lazy and violent and nothing will ever help them. What if the best thing is the police stay out of it and let nature take its course. What if the best solution is to do nothing at all.


I have said that people RARELY move out of the financial class they are born into. That has nothing to do with their character or genes but the way the economy is set.

What if all the crimes in white communities are genetic, what if the next generation is just privileged and unable to cope with sharing and nothing will help them? what if the best thing to do is police and psychiatrists to stay out of it and let nature take its course? what if the best solution is to do nothing at all?



and still, is the thread about violence in chicago or genetics?





I think nature is taking its course in white communities. We don't have as many births but we don't have as many deaths because of a calm nature and stable lifestyle.

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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 07:06 PM














Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself


except science does nor anatomy back up your theory that people are 'bred' to be violent.

Maybe school shootings are nature correcting itself? And teen suicides?

survival of the fittest and all ... 'cause THATS civil and logical...




Dogs are bred for fighting. We have violent males in and out of prison breeding with lots of baby mama's passing on bad jeans. 8f it wasn't for welfare the mom and offspring wouldn't survive. So now dad and son's are in and out of jail reproducing. Like Elvis Presley song from over 40 years ago.



yes, and depressed miserable parents have depressed miserable kids, and busy successful parents have miserable depressed kids

was this thread about solutions or genocide?




You have said that people never do any better than their parents in poor communities. What if it isn't opportunity. What if it's genetics. What if the next generation is lazy and violent and nothing will ever help them. What if the best thing is the police stay out of it and let nature take its course. What if the best solution is to do nothing at all.


I have said that people RARELY move out of the financial class they are born into. That has nothing to do with their character or genes but the way the economy is set.

What if all the crimes in white communities are genetic, what if the next generation is just privileged and unable to cope with sharing and nothing will help them? what if the best thing to do is police and psychiatrists to stay out of it and let nature take its course? what if the best solution is to do nothing at all?



and still, is the thread about violence in chicago or genetics?





I think nature is taking its course in white communities. We don't have as many births but we don't have as many deaths because of a calm nature and stable lifestyle.




well, at least the racism is not hidden. The two white men who assaulted me certainly weren't calm or stable though.

Fact: historic segregation and oppression that favored and gave privilege to whites also perpetuated and maintained a serious wealth and power disparity, and people with more to lose are less desperate than people with nothing to lose.

middle to upper class areas have less crime than areas of concentrated poverty,, its not the race, its the economic and cultural treatment OF RACE.

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Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 07:16 PM















Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself


except science does nor anatomy back up your theory that people are 'bred' to be violent.

Maybe school shootings are nature correcting itself? And teen suicides?

survival of the fittest and all ... 'cause THATS civil and logical...




Dogs are bred for fighting. We have violent males in and out of prison breeding with lots of baby mama's passing on bad jeans. 8f it wasn't for welfare the mom and offspring wouldn't survive. So now dad and son's are in and out of jail reproducing. Like Elvis Presley song from over 40 years ago.



yes, and depressed miserable parents have depressed miserable kids, and busy successful parents have miserable depressed kids

was this thread about solutions or genocide?




You have said that people never do any better than their parents in poor communities. What if it isn't opportunity. What if it's genetics. What if the next generation is lazy and violent and nothing will ever help them. What if the best thing is the police stay out of it and let nature take its course. What if the best solution is to do nothing at all.


I have said that people RARELY move out of the financial class they are born into. That has nothing to do with their character or genes but the way the economy is set.

What if all the crimes in white communities are genetic, what if the next generation is just privileged and unable to cope with sharing and nothing will help them? what if the best thing to do is police and psychiatrists to stay out of it and let nature take its course? what if the best solution is to do nothing at all?



and still, is the thread about violence in chicago or genetics?





I think nature is taking its course in white communities. We don't have as many births but we don't have as many deaths because of a calm nature and stable lifestyle.




well, at least the racism is not hidden. The two white men who assaulted me certainly weren't calm or stable though.

Fact: historic segregation and oppression that favored and gave privilege to whites also perpetuated and maintained a serious wealth and power disparity, and people with more to lose are less desperate than people with nothing to lose.

middle to upper class areas have less crime than areas of concentrated poverty,, its not the race, its the economic and cultural treatment OF RACE.




It's blacks killing blacks. Putting them in a white neighbor won't change their violent behavior. People who want to pull themselves up out of poverty will. I know because I'm one of them. I didn't have to buy rental property. I could have said it's too much trouble. Safe neighborhoods are created by neighbors who work instead of stealing killing and selling drugs.
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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 07:20 PM
















Hot spot and so forth
They claim racial disparage. And that they were profiled yadayada

You pulled me over
You profiled
Either car was too expensive to be owned by black person..Neighborhood is too wealthy to be in.

It gets difficult for the police to do much policing when the media attacks them Obama attacked them Ive heard nothing but complaints and no real solutions.
People caught up in skin color. It should be focused on the crimes committed. But they continue to count how many non whites in jail...rather than. The entire prison population got themselves in jail by commiting crimes.


there is no industry without complaints, has nothing to do with those in that industry doing their jobs.

OBama didnt attack police, he criticized SPECIFIC police about a SPECIFIC situation. HE said citizens and police needed to work together and have a better relationship.

I posted about seven potential resources for improvement earlier in the thread. But the posts continue to revolve around race.

Criminals end up in jail, but sometimes privilege favors blindness to certain criminals rather than to others.




The privilege comes when you have a family to make your bond, or give you a place to stay on parole or probation, or give you a job and take you to check in with parole officers. I watched a segment on this about a month ago. It was a black man raised by white parents complaining that blacks raised by blacks, didn't have parents that would help. That isn't on society. That's on the black community.


isnt everything concerning crime or violence in these threads?

couldnt be historical segregation, redlining, concentrated poverty, lack of resource and community investment, or implicit racial bias on who gets stopped, arrested, and how they are sentenced?

nope, just deficient black culture once again ...whoa


No arrest were made in Chicago. It's time we face facts. Some people are like wild animals. They will never do any better because they don't have the mentality.


maybe SOME people are, but its not due to their race.




No but people get their genetics from their parents. What if our welfare has bred a group of undesirables that nature would have culled? Maybe what's happening in Chicago is nature correcting itself


except science does nor anatomy back up your theory that people are 'bred' to be violent.

Maybe school shootings are nature correcting itself? And teen suicides?

survival of the fittest and all ... 'cause THATS civil and logical...




Dogs are bred for fighting. We have violent males in and out of prison breeding with lots of baby mama's passing on bad jeans. 8f it wasn't for welfare the mom and offspring wouldn't survive. So now dad and son's are in and out of jail reproducing. Like Elvis Presley song from over 40 years ago.



yes, and depressed miserable parents have depressed miserable kids, and busy successful parents have miserable depressed kids

was this thread about solutions or genocide?




You have said that people never do any better than their parents in poor communities. What if it isn't opportunity. What if it's genetics. What if the next generation is lazy and violent and nothing will ever help them. What if the best thing is the police stay out of it and let nature take its course. What if the best solution is to do nothing at all.


I have said that people RARELY move out of the financial class they are born into. That has nothing to do with their character or genes but the way the economy is set.

What if all the crimes in white communities are genetic, what if the next generation is just privileged and unable to cope with sharing and nothing will help them? what if the best thing to do is police and psychiatrists to stay out of it and let nature take its course? what if the best solution is to do nothing at all?



and still, is the thread about violence in chicago or genetics?





I think nature is taking its course in white communities. We don't have as many births but we don't have as many deaths because of a calm nature and stable lifestyle.




well, at least the racism is not hidden. The two white men who assaulted me certainly weren't calm or stable though.

Fact: historic segregation and oppression that favored and gave privilege to whites also perpetuated and maintained a serious wealth and power disparity, and people with more to lose are less desperate than people with nothing to lose.

middle to upper class areas have less crime than areas of concentrated poverty,, its not the race, its the economic and cultural treatment OF RACE.




It's blacks killing blacks. Putting them in a white neighbor won't change their violent behavior. People who want to pull themselves up out of poverty will. I know because I'm one of them. I didn't have to buy rental property. I could have said it's too much trouble. Safe neighborhoods are created by neighbors who work instead of stealing killing and selling drugs.


its poor killing poor

race only plays in because historical policy has created disparate poverty along widely racial lines


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Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 07:34 PM

What's keeping them from getting education, jobs, and homes? They quit school to sell drugs or pop out babies. They never try to do any better.
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msharmony

Wed 08/08/18 07:37 PM


What's keeping them from getting education, jobs, and homes? They quit school to sell drugs or pop out babies. They never try to do any better.



If I thought you seriously were interested in any of this, I would answer you. But Im tired of the bigotry feigned as interest at this point. And it should be close to having this thread locked for being so off topic and making so many attacks about blacks toward the one anf only black person on this thread....

good day


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Easttowest72

Wed 08/08/18 07:42 PM



What's keeping them from getting education, jobs, and homes? They quit school to sell drugs or pop out babies. They never try to do any better.



If I thought you seriously were interested in any of this, I would answer you. But Im tired of the bigotry feigned as interest at this point. And it should be close to having this thread locked for being so off topic and making so many attacks about blacks toward the one anf only black person on this thread....

good day





On the news they didn't show any white people when reporting the weekend shootings. I'm sure there are plenty of poor white people in Chicago.