That is what I do when liberals speak.

OK, Let's start with Ronald Reagan. One word explains Ronald Reagan. Reaganomics. After him, We had Bill Clinton. It took him to straighten out the mess that Reagan left. Plus he left us with a surplus. We didn't owe anyone anything. Including China.

Then after him, George Bush. Who led us into a war that we are still in and owing trillions to just about everyone. Including China.

Then we have Barack Obama. A president that inherited one of the worst economies since the great depression. The man did a lot with what he had to work with. More than I can speak here.

I see a trend myself. Not that either party does everything right or wrong. But if you look back through history, you will see a lot of Republican breaking things and then a Democrat comes in and fixes it.

Wrong.
But you are entitled to your opinion.

Obama did a lot?

Like creating more debt then every President before him COMBINED!

well, technically,, MOST presidents left with more debt than the presidents before them, debt rises regardless of party affiliation


numerically, OBama left wth 10 trill and left with 19,5 trill
which is a 9.5 trill increase for a rate of nearly 100 percent increase

which is only a few percentage points hire then republican predecssor Bush, who had no near depression but two wars factoring in to the budget

and which is almost 100 percent less than the beloved republican REagan who had neither wars nor a near depression to contend with, as I recall




In Bush's defense, wars are costly, and in OBamas' defense pulling a country from near depression and ending wars can be too....

I understand. And you're correct. The only point I was trying to make, yes, none are without fault. But at the same time, when you look back through history it's usually a Republican that makes a mess for a Democrat to have to try to clean up.

I lived through the Reagan years. By the time he was finished our economy was in the tank. Even though Bill Clinton couldn't keep his pants up, and not saying he did everything right. Just saying, the economy was booming when he went out. So, he must have been doing something right.

Enter George Bush. He inherited one of the best economies any president could ask for. But by the time he left, we were in a war and our economy was a step away from another great depression. While George was spending trillions on his hunt for weapons of mass destruction, it looked like he just forgot about the economy.

Enter Barack Obama. He inherited one of the worst economies since the great depression. Congress fought him left and right. Anything they could think of to try to keep him from doing the job he was elected for. With all the opposition he faced, it's a wonder he was able to accomplish what he did. By the time he left the economy was on its way back up.

Enter Donald Trump. I'll keep most of what I think about this one too myself for now. So far it's pretty much the same as Republican presidents before him. He inherited an economy that was on its way up before he took office. I'm waiting to see if things will turn out just like Republicans before him. In the end, will he leave it in a bigger mess than what he found it?

So far, yes, he has. He's made it worse. Higher prices on everything. Higher taxes on everything. More money out of the little guys pocket. Just like Republicans before him. So far it looks like Trump is headed in the same direction as Reagan and Bush. In the end, if he does worse than Bush, We will go into another great depression. Probably worse than the first one.

One last thing. Over the years I've seen this same thing. A Democrat will just come right out and say, We need to raise taxes so we can pay off X amount.

Republicans are sneaky. For the most part, they will not tell you that they want to raise taxes. Gas prices will go up. And so does the tax on it. Food prices will go up. And so does the tax on it. They sneak around and take your money through goods and services & other ways.

They say they aren't going to raise taxes. When all the time they do. They just do it in a way that most people don't think about or notice.

Land of opportunity....to lie through her teeth...omarosa

Complete dumpster fire..

like the man who felt she should be hired and who she not so long ago spoke well of. Both lying opportunists in my eyes. They really deserved each other.

Easy to fact check.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/12/08/does-obama-have-the-worst-record-on-any-president-on-the-national-debt/?noredirect=on

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

lol, who needs stinking research, data, or facts? They are all fake and redundant when all that matters is our own individual experiences and what our party has regurgitated to us.

Thank you for trying though Charles. I have plenty of respect for the attempt to provide back up research to questions and opinions.

Let us remember how human nature responds. The more a state becomes socialistic the more people loose the motivation to work harder:

John down the street goes to college and obtains a degree in engineering. His neighbor, George, barely graduated high school. The socialized government enforces higher taxes to subsidize Georges standard of living. John looks at this and feels, why should I work so hard when the government is playing robin hood. George receives free medical, housing, etc. He never pushed himself and doesn't work as hard as I do.

Are we there yet, not quite, but we are being pulled in this direction more and more.

"Oh, you just want people who don't have much to live in poverty"! Response: why didn't George push himself like John did. I know several individuals who had George's mindset when I was in high school and they ended up driving beer trucks and complaining the government should do something. Once socialism takes hold of a country the citizens become to dependent on receiving free services paid for by ever increasing taxes.

While some point to Europe as an example numerous European countries are bordering on bankruptcy. I was watching the news tonight and Greece's government spending is 187% of the gross national income. And this is where Washington wants to take us. Since the Clinton administration Washington is spending our children and grandchildren's future.

When the middle class is taxed to where they can no longer pay their own bills they go bankrupt, Washington will soon follow (trying to support bankrupt banks) and societies safety net will go bankrupt with it.

Socialism has never proven successful. In fact, this even played out in ancient Rome. Roman's wanted more and more at no cost. Soon the tax income fell far below the citizen out-go. Rome went bankrupt.

socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

we have next to no production, distribution, or exchange owned or regulated by 'the community as a whole'


It's still corporations and the wealthy who control the production, distribution, and exchange of just about everything in every state.

socialism is just one of those words to bring fear to people's hearts, but not close to the reality of existing in the USA.

This ^^^^^^^
Well said sir.

Those who heavily regulate and tax industry exert lots of control over those industries. Likewise there is to much money funneling back to law makers. One is controlling the other.

Socialism brought lots of real life fear all over Europe and Asia from 50 to 70 years. Socialism always degenerates into state control no matter how a dictionary defines it. In socialism everyone is equal: it's just that, eventually, those who govern are more equal.

Failures of the last three administrations:

Bill Clinton: the ACORN case set up Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac to give loans to individuals who, it was known, could not pay them back, thus becoming part of the 2008 financial bust. The Clinton administration built on this and developed the "good credit, bad credit, no credit" mentality. Yes the economy was red hot but like a balloon the economic sides were getting thinner and thinner.

George Bush: The situation in Iraq was a no win situation. Saddam was not in bed with Al Qaeda but this was an excuse used to invade. Our Arab allies warned us that by toppling Saddam the Shiites, who are dominant in Iraq, would turn to Iran and create a firestorm. Which it did. While Saddam was evil so was it's alternative: Iran. We should have kept our nose out. Saudi Arabia urgently asked us to stay out. NAFTA: allowing low import tariffs from Mexican and Canadian imports but these two countries maintained their import tariffs on USA products.

Barack Obama: Giving Iran (who desperately hates us) several billion dollars. Giving Iran the ok to develop enriched uranium for their "nuclear power plants". Decreasing import tariffs on European and Asian country products while European and Asian countries maintained high import tariffs on American goods. The un-Afordable Care Act: resulting in raised most middle class insurance premiums and doubled out of pocket maximum payments.Did the insurance industry need reforming: absolutely. But what we now have is far worse.

Didn't Clinton sign nafta? Which took American jobs so the already struggling couldn't pay for those houses.

My mistake: President Bill Clinton signed it into law December 8, 1993.

NAFTA was attacked from all sides during the 2008 presidential campaign. Barack Obama blamed it for growing unemployment. He said it helped businesses at the expense of workers in the United States. It also did not provide enough protection against exploitation of workers and the environment along the border in Mexico.

Hillary Clinton included the trade agreement in her pledge to strictly enforce all existing trade agreements, as well as halt any new ones. Both candidates promised to either amend or back out of the agreement altogether. Obama didn't do anything about these campaign promises when he was president. But when President Trump does Trump is evil.

The FBI and CIA allowed the gueen bee Hillary to get away withnot supporting the office in Bengali which lefty us with a raped and murdered adgent, Who had begged the queen bee to send more troups for protection, And Hillary using non-secure telephone lines with0out security,The republicans are being hung out to dry and the democrat's are considered little miss princess.

1. Socialism is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only

in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery.

In the same way that a Ponzi scheme or chain letter initially succeeds but eventually collapses, socialism may show early signs of success. But any accomplishments

quickly fade as the fundamental deficiencies of central planning and control emerge. Socialism is a system that ignores/removes incentives.

2. The strength of capitalism can be attributed to an incentive structure based upon the three Ps: (1) prices determined by market forces, (2) a profit-and-loss system of

accounting and (3) private property rights. The failure of socialism can be traced to its neglect of these three incentive-enhancing components.

4. The temptress of socialism is constantly luring us with the offer: “give up a little of your freedom and I (the government) will give you a little more security.” As the

experience of the 20th century has demonstrated, the bargain is tempting but never pays off. We end up losing both our freedom and our security. Those who didn't live through it don't have the memory. Add to this those who, today, propagate this either have forgotten or willingly are ignoring the failures as well as the bankrupt government it produces.

Lyndon Johnson's "The Great Society". The Great Society was to make everyone near equal. For decades large amounts of money were supplied to social programs. In the early to mid 70's most high school graduates (whose parents were poor) could easily obtain government grants (didn't have to pay it back). Of those I knew in high school who qualified few made an attempt. When I attended college my parents made a bit to much (no we were not well to do) so I struggled on my own.

The Great Society was a flop. It seemed to propagate a whole sector of society to be dependent on government social programs instead of giving them the ability to provide for themself.

It's sad that people are discouraged from working and investing because taxes are so high. People complain about minimum wage but what they don't see is a lot of people are paying more in taxes every week than a minimum wage income provides with nothing more than a high school education. That makes people say forget it to overtime because it doesn't benefit them. Then when they see people on welfare living better it creates anger. Then add the fact what's left after the govt redistributes wealth, goes to pay taxes on property. So it's ramen noodles for the middle class, while the welfare class is enjoying steak while living in gov't providing housing.