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mightymoe

Sat 09/01/18 04:29 PM

UNARMED MEN AND WOMEN (regardless of race) might partially have the actions of one brave man to thank ...

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Wow!.. I would like to thank that man too!... who is it?

MIGHT PARTIALLY have the actions of ..

Kaepernick, perhaps that same publicity that made NFL feel pressure to exclude him, made authorities feel pressure to take another look at their practices regarding unarmed suspects.

unarmed or not, everyone has to follow police orders when being detained...
I just watched a video where the police shot an unarmed white guy, someone they weren't looking for...the police stopped at his house looking for another dude, and he wouldn't let them in without a warrant... As he shut the door, the cops kicked it in and tased the guy, and the guy tried to grab the taser... The cop shot him 8 times while he laid on his porch, right in front of his three kids.... Where's Collin on that one? Oh, but it's black lives matter, not all lives matter...

http://youtu.be/ZdNHOfuIyLs

If he knew about or was asked about it, I would predict he would be where he is on police brutality and has been since he risked his livelihood...

it is disproportionate for unarmed black men, probably because of the implicit bias that frames them as more dangerous out the gate

but the killing of unarmed people should not be acceptable just because someone had a badge and felt a threat, when threat can be something as little as someone trying not to get tased, especially.

the quote you posted was everything but white ... So I have to call BS here...

so? If I stand up for breast cancer, would that mean I didnt care about lung cancer? People can speak up for a specific issue but still care about the broader issues surrounding it.

No, it's racist and you can't even see it ..but whatever, not a big surprise coming from you...

mightymoe

Sat 09/01/18 04:31 PM

the quote you posted was everything but white ... So I have to call BS here...

so? If I stand up for breast cancer, would that mean I didnt care about lung cancer? People can speak up for a specific issue but still care about the broader issues surrounding it.

lung cancer is not breast cancer...ya know, men get breast cancer too .. so why is it all pink?

msharmony

Sat 09/01/18 06:30 PM

the quote you posted was everything but white ... So I have to call BS here...

so? If I stand up for breast cancer, would that mean I didnt care about lung cancer? People can speak up for a specific issue but still care about the broader issues surrounding it.

lung cancer is not breast cancer...ya know, men get breast cancer too .. so why is it all pink?

lol,,, people dont tackle every issue every where every minute ... they pick one at a time ...

even when they care about much more than just one

greeneyes148

Sun 09/02/18 04:03 AM

Colin is a advocate against police brutality, right?

So where was he last month when that black cop was beating the living hell out of that unarmed defensless black guy in Baltimore. Beat him to the ground and then kept on punching him in the head. The video was all over the new and web. That video was the poster child of police brutality

Not a peep from Colin .. or now that I think about it any self proclaimed defender of the black people on police brutality..BLM..ect.

So is it just white cops that Colin and groups like BLM will protest about..they look the other way and are quiet when it is a black cop?

mightymoe

Sun 09/02/18 05:21 AM

of course, it's alawys been a racist movement...but come to think of it, I haven't heard anything from Collin except about suing the NFL ... Is he not protesting anymore, or is that for only on the football field?

greeneyes148

Sun 09/02/18 05:52 AM

I think in his protest by laws it states that he will only protest for gatherings of 48,500 or more..and the protest will only consist of a 4 minute knee bend.. no " small crowds and no comments afterwards"

Workin4it

Sun 09/02/18 06:50 AM

The NFL is there to make money. Kaep isn't known for being a good player. I guess his white parents didn't do a good enough job seeing he was raised with privileges. :thinking:

which leave me believing that DNA causes people to be argumentative and lack the ability to succeed. No matter what benefits we give them.

I wonder if DNA causes people to be argumentative and lack the ability to use logic, no matter what privilege they 'earn'.

No it's not the DNA, its called Liberalism. That is the cause of having : no integrity, no class, low intelligence and highly questionable ethics.

Workin4it

Sun 09/02/18 07:12 AM

The NFL wouldn't be going through this if kaep was white. Do you deny it? A white man can be fired when his work performance isn't up to standard but blacks play the race card.

We will know when it happens. Kaepernick was ranked 29 out of the top 100 quarterbacks.

Which of the 70 qbs ranking below Kaepernick in 2016 were let go after ?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/passing.htm

probally a few. So what. 29th isn't that great, especially if your ego causes low team moral. He brings teams down with his " it's all about me attitude" . He can play in the Canadian league. They might put up with his antics.

really? Is that what his teammates said?

Like I said, NFL doesnt deserve half the talent that they exploit, let alone Colin. He opened the door to a purpose bigger than entertainment and sports, and I hope NFL learns a valuable lesson about infringing on players ability to merely quietly kneel.

No, he opened the door to the unemployment line. Lol. Talk about infringing, it was his decision to go above and beyond what his paying job was. They are there to play a game for the entertainment of fans.they are free to quit anytime they want if they feel they are being exploited. But you seem to think that most players are premadonnas like Colen was. Wrong again, most are there for the love of the game and$$$. Not to stump for your own personal beliefs. It's the NFL not a podium fake racism rants.

IgorFrankensteen

Sun 09/02/18 07:45 AM

What I find tricky and confusing about the issue of collusion, is the fact that the NFL is a private club, not a publicly held company, and not a government operation. The rules and laws regulating what private clubs can do, are different from the ones for companies and for government functions.

It's obvious to me, that the NFL owners "collude" with each other almost constantly, in one way and another. They get together as a group, and set up the rules for how the game is played, what players can do on the field, they even set standards of personal behavior for the players (though not for each other, amusingly enough).

They are said to be discussing, and may have already decided to make it a formal rule, that everyone has to pretend to be happy to stand and honor the singing of the National Anthem before every game. I personally disapprove of that, because I think it is an insult to the anthem and to patriotism, to turn it into a showmanship routine like that.

Personally, I don't think there is any indication that his being "black" has anything to do with his being ignored by almost every team, and not being offered a starting job with any of them. And last I heard, he and his lawyers are not making such a claim.

I'll be interested in the out come of the trial.

The NFL has a long history of playing legal games with fans, players, and with it's own claimed status as part of an entertainment industry.

Holding players to a certain standard when it comes to just-for-show patriotism is just one of the squirrely things about them.

While I agree with what you say. I would add an opinion to it. The NFL is mostly a business, and being such, they do operate on 'pleasing the fans' so to speak. I feel Trumps interjection into the matter blew it up more than need be and put pressure on them to act where they may not have otherwise. I also feel peoples selective disapproval of his actions was more about what he protested than THAT he protested. I dont feel the same result would have come if he had said he knelt quietly to protest the treatment of vets in this country. He probably would have gotten an award, in fact, and people would scream how patriotic he was.

and even if he had ever served, people would not question him about why he should protest considering how well HE had done in life.

I really think that the issue of whether he protested is a smokescreen to cloud the disapproval of WHY he protested ... IMHO.

I completely agree that WHY he protested is what set these particular people against him. I only skeptical that it is primarily because he is non-white.

As for why Trump poked his nose in, that's a separate issue, as it always is with Trump.

One of the tricks about collusion, is that it can occur without anyone overtly saying anything to anyone. Silent collusion happens all the time, unfortunately, especially where politics and prejudice are involved.

greeneyes148

Sun 09/02/18 03:48 PM

Since Colin lost his free soap box where does he now protest? Because I haven't seen him kneel anywhere other then a football stadium.
I mean he has the money to rent air time or radio time but....nothing.

Is he done protesting? Or will he again protest, as long as someone else foots the bill?

msharmony

Sun 09/02/18 10:58 PM

if anti immigrant folks are concerned about the crimes of illegal immigrants, where are they when EACH ONE of the OTHER 30000 non immigrant homicides happen?

see how silly the question is? No one, regardless of their concerns, makes an announcement or complaint EVERY time and in EVERY incident they know that happens, let alone those they may not even have heard of.

people live their lives, they cannot look the way of EVERY wrong that happens every where every time, but that does not lesson the sincerity of their concern when they are looking or commenting.

greeneyes148

Mon 09/03/18 03:34 AM

Got Ya.

So basically Colin sees what he wants to see and only protests on a large venues. Because he surely is not taking a knee anywhere else or holding protests anywhere else

And while him and entities like BLM can chose what to protest that never seems to be when black cops are doing police brutality..such as the Baltimore incident

Because in fact....they never have protested blacks cops doing wrong...why is that?

Do you see how silly that appears

msharmony

Mon 09/03/18 06:38 AM

well, he does have to live life and do what he can WHERE he is. So since he is blacklisted in the PUBLIC arena, he has been putting his money where his mouth is in helping inner city youth understand how to interact with police and how to know their rights and several other programs to help them out.

what happens with a blacklist is that it becomes LESS LIKELY most will 'hear about it' unless they look for it.

pick a search engine and type something like "Kaepernick donations" to see what else he is doing to try to address the bodies in the streets.

msharmony

Mon 09/03/18 06:39 AM

The NFL is there to make money. Kaep isn't known for being a good player. I guess his white parents didn't do a good enough job seeing he was raised with privileges. :thinking:

which leave me believing that DNA causes people to be argumentative and lack the ability to succeed. No matter what benefits we give them.

I wonder if DNA causes people to be argumentative and lack the ability to use logic, no matter what privilege they 'earn'.

No it's not the DNA, its called Liberalism. That is the cause of having : no integrity, no class, low intelligence and highly questionable ethics.

so is Trump a liberal or what?

msharmony

Mon 09/03/18 06:46 AM

seems protesting is but one means people have to try to make a difference, he is now using his pocketbook instead of the field ...

http://kaepernick7.com/million-dollar-pledge

Edited by msharmony on Mon 09/03/18 06:50 AM

msharmony

Mon 09/03/18 06:49 AM

so what?

Colin sees whatever he sees and addresses it HOW he can based on WHERE he is. So he is not on the field anymore, which means kneeling on the field is not an option. but where he IS, waiting for a source of income, he is giving of what he does have WHERE HE IS NOW, which is finances, as posted several times already.

I dont recall anyone protesting the race of cops who are killing, so the whole tangent is silly.

Easttowest72

Mon 09/03/18 07:57 AM

kaep is busy protesting his loss of income. :astonished:

msharmony

Mon 09/03/18 03:02 PM

From: http://www.yahoo.com/sports/nike-makes-colin-kaepernick-face-just-30th-anniversary-campaign-200029766.html]

Surely there will be a calm, rational, well reasoned response to this story.

Nike revealed, through ESPN’s Darren Rovell, that it is making Colin Kaepernick the face of its “Just Do It” 30th anniversary ad campaign.

The initial image, announced through Rovell, has a close up of Kaepernick’s face with the caption: “Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything.”