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msharmony

Thu 09/13/18 01:01 AM

A charter school in Georgia started a new year by revisiting old disciplinary policies and then sending consent forms to parents asking for permission to paddle students.

Administrators at the Georgia School for Innovation and the Classics sent a letter home to parents to inform them of the corporal punishment policy being put in place, according to WRDW in Augusta. However, parents still have to sign the form before their children are subject to paddling. The form says that the kindergarten-through-ninth grade students will be subject to a “three strike” policy, promising that the punishment won’t be administered until a student’s third offense.

Other guidelines within the policy say that a parent will be notified that the child is being paddled before the student is brought into an office with closed doors, where they will place their hands on their knees or on a piece of furniture and be subjected to “no more than three licks” of the wooden paddle.

The district’s superintendent, Jody Boulineau, told WRDW that a little over 100 forms have been returned, with nearly one-third of parents consenting to the policy. If consent isn’t given, parents must agree to the alternative of up to five days of suspension.

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third strike, only with parental consent, I can get with that, with some boundaries as to how hard those three licks are.

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Easttowest72

Thu 09/13/18 01:05 AM

Sounds like a good plan. Better to teach kids action have consequences at a young age.
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Argo

Thu 09/13/18 01:24 AM

no thanks, i'll handle any corporal punishment given to my children...

i'll handle it on their 1st offense and i don't believe there
will be any 2nd or 3rd offenses after that...
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msharmony

Thu 09/13/18 01:32 AM


no thanks, i'll handle any corporal punishment given to my children...

i'll handle it on their 1st offense and i don't believe there
will be any 2nd or 3rd offenses after that...


good plan too ...

I think the acceptance of divorce, expectation of both parents working outside the home, and stigmatization of discipline, all went a long way to foster the increase in broken homes and disrespect of others.


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greeneyes148

Thu 09/13/18 03:56 AM


no thanks, i'll handle any corporal punishment given to my children...

i'll handle it on their 1st offense and i don't believe there
will be any 2nd or 3rd offenses after that...


Gonna hit them that hard Heh
Edited by greeneyes148 on Thu 09/13/18 03:57 AM
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IgorFrankensteen

Thu 09/13/18 04:41 AM

I'd find another school fast, if the administrators were so inept, ignorant, short-sighted and lacking in creativity that they actually thought that strangers in authority hitting a child, was a good idea.

It's more than insane. It's giving up on teaching and on raising a child, and falling back on satisfying the anger of the authority figure.

I was myself spanked as a child, and I know all too well, that learning how to do a better job at life was not even slightly helped by that. All I learned, and all any child learns when you hit them, is that grown ups are physically dangerous creatures who do arbitrary nasty things to children.
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Dodo_David

Thu 09/13/18 04:46 AM

All I learned, and all any child learns when you hit them, is that grown ups are physically dangerous creatures who do arbitrary nasty things to children.


Extrapolating one's own learning to all children is wrong.

What we are talking about here isn't arbitrary.

Also, plenty of adults turned out fine after being spanked as children.
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greeneyes148

Thu 09/13/18 04:50 AM

Well Mom raised 8 of us and me and my 3 brothers were always doing something we were supposed to. And when we got caught..she beat our A*s...because we deserved it
All 8 grew up to be good parents and good people . She was the best

I' m glad I had that " dangerous creature" in my life

Thanks Mom :)
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Queenie

Thu 09/13/18 06:05 AM

Children were paddled for yrs for acting up in school. I think more then one or two survived it and became good people. Now if we look at the world today and the behavior that is accepted as norm. Maybe paddling wasn't such a bad idea.
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msharmony

Thu 09/13/18 09:43 AM


I'd find another school fast, if the administrators were so inept, ignorant, short-sighted and lacking in creativity that they actually thought that strangers in authority hitting a child, was a good idea.

It's more than insane. It's giving up on teaching and on raising a child, and falling back on satisfying the anger of the authority figure.

I was myself spanked as a child, and I know all too well, that learning how to do a better job at life was not even slightly helped by that. All I learned, and all any child learns when you hit them, is that grown ups are physically dangerous creatures who do arbitrary nasty things to children.


Respectfully.

One of the disciplines I and most children (of color) that I knew was spanking. I only say that because where I grew up it was very common for other kids to have parents begging and pleading with them and being disrespected and talked to crazy.

Also, I say that to STRESS that as MY experience personally, not to insist it is the reality for everyone else.


I learned life has consequences and choices and that my folks were good on doing what they said they would do when they said they would do it. Everyone gets something different. It really stems more from the foundation and balance that exists between positive and negative reinforcement, communication, and consistency.


All children certainly are not created the same, which is why I think it is vital in this story that parents have that choice concerning their own child. If it was mandatory for every child, I would not feel the same.
Edited by msharmony on Thu 09/13/18 09:49 AM
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Tom4Uhere

Thu 09/13/18 10:17 AM

For a time, the only spankings I got were in school.
That's because my alcoholic parents didn't care about me.
Then, I moved in with my sister and brother in law and if I got spanked at school, I got it when I got home too. But, he was a sadistic marine and I got it whether I got one in school or not.

When raising my own children I had a three swat rule.
We didn't spank our children more than three swats on the backside with our hand only. Most of the time, only one was needed.

I did not tolerate others spanking my children. Not the school, the babysitter or their grandparents. They were our responibility to parent and our responsibility to correct if their behavior was wrong.

Spankings were not meant to give me pleasure or vent my anger, they were meant to set a lesson. Anything over 3 swats and you're getting pleasure from beating on your own kid? How insane is that?
At puberty, the spankings stopped. It was more effective to restrict than to spank. The whole concept of correction is to fix poor behavior.

My children tell others they grew up in a loving home with lots of understanding and guidance. I see the values I had being passed down in their families. Just because I was abused doesn't mean I had to abuse my children and if I won't abuse my children, I will not tolerate anyone else doing it.
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Toodygirl5

Thu 09/13/18 12:46 PM

I am surprised any school can inforced this rulng.

I don't have school age Children but I wouldn't agree to this. Some in the field of teaching children should Not be.

I feel if Children cannot Behave in School, in a classroom or school grounds, Then there should be another rule in place.

Three misbehaving and then they go Home, let the Parents homeschool.
Let the Parents be responsible. For their kids.

IMO
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Thu 09/13/18 12:50 PM
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Argo

Thu 09/13/18 01:48 PM


Well Mom raised 8 of us and me and my 3 brothers were always doing something we were supposed to. And when we got caught..she beat our A*s...because we deserved it
All 8 grew up to be good parents and good people . She was the best

I' m glad I had that " dangerous creature" in my life

Thanks Mom :)


got hit that hard Heh
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Workin4it

Thu 09/13/18 06:05 PM


no thanks, i'll handle any corporal punishment given to my children...

i'll handle it on their 1st offense and i don't believe there
will be any 2nd or 3rd offenses after that...
I agree Argo, it should be handled by a parent. If it were 30 years ago I'd say let the school handle it. I got 5 licks one day for skipping school the day before. That was the last time I skipped school. Now a days I don't trust school faculty to touch any of our kids.To many unstable teachers for my trust.
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dreamerana

Thu 09/13/18 11:00 PM


A charter school in Georgia started a new year by revisiting old disciplinary policies and then sending consent forms to parents asking for permission to paddle students.

Administrators at the Georgia School for Innovation and the Classics sent a letter home to parents to inform them of the corporal punishment policy being put in place, according to WRDW in Augusta. However, parents still have to sign the form before their children are subject to paddling. The form says that the kindergarten-through-ninth grade students will be subject to a “three strike” policy, promising that the punishment won’t be administered until a student’s third offense.

Other guidelines within the policy say that a parent will be notified that the child is being paddled before the student is brought into an office with closed doors, where they will place their hands on their knees or on a piece of furniture and be subjected to “no more than three licks” of the wooden paddle.

The district’s superintendent, Jody Boulineau, told WRDW that a little over 100 forms have been returned, with nearly one-third of parents consenting to the policy. If consent isn’t given, parents must agree to the alternative of up to five days of suspension.

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third strike, only with parental consent, I can get with that, with some boundaries as to how hard those three licks are.




They had this up until the time i was in 6th grade in public schools.
It was mostly students of color that it was applied to.
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msharmony

Thu 09/13/18 11:02 PM



A charter school in Georgia started a new year by revisiting old disciplinary policies and then sending consent forms to parents asking for permission to paddle students.

Administrators at the Georgia School for Innovation and the Classics sent a letter home to parents to inform them of the corporal punishment policy being put in place, according to WRDW in Augusta. However, parents still have to sign the form before their children are subject to paddling. The form says that the kindergarten-through-ninth grade students will be subject to a “three strike” policy, promising that the punishment won’t be administered until a student’s third offense.

Other guidelines within the policy say that a parent will be notified that the child is being paddled before the student is brought into an office with closed doors, where they will place their hands on their knees or on a piece of furniture and be subjected to “no more than three licks” of the wooden paddle.

The district’s superintendent, Jody Boulineau, told WRDW that a little over 100 forms have been returned, with nearly one-third of parents consenting to the policy. If consent isn’t given, parents must agree to the alternative of up to five days of suspension.

,,,,


third strike, only with parental consent, I can get with that, with some boundaries as to how hard those three licks are.




They had this up until the time i was in 6th grade in public schools.
It was mostly students of color that it was applied to.



was there parental consent involved? or was it across the board?


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dreamerana

Thu 09/13/18 11:15 PM




A charter school in Georgia started a new year by revisiting old disciplinary policies and then sending consent forms to parents asking for permission to paddle students.

Administrators at the Georgia School for Innovation and the Classics sent a letter home to parents to inform them of the corporal punishment policy being put in place, according to WRDW in Augusta. However, parents still have to sign the form before their children are subject to paddling. The form says that the kindergarten-through-ninth grade students will be subject to a “three strike” policy, promising that the punishment won’t be administered until a student’s third offense.

Other guidelines within the policy say that a parent will be notified that the child is being paddled before the student is brought into an office with closed doors, where they will place their hands on their knees or on a piece of furniture and be subjected to “no more than three licks” of the wooden paddle.

The district’s superintendent, Jody Boulineau, told WRDW that a little over 100 forms have been returned, with nearly one-third of parents consenting to the policy. If consent isn’t given, parents must agree to the alternative of up to five days of suspension.

,,,,


third strike, only with parental consent, I can get with that, with some boundaries as to how hard those three licks are.




They had this up until the time i was in 6th grade in public schools.
It was mostly students of color that it was applied to.



was there parental consent involved? or was it across the board?




I was a kid at the time. I don't know about that.
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msharmony

Thu 09/13/18 11:19 PM





A charter school in Georgia started a new year by revisiting old disciplinary policies and then sending consent forms to parents asking for permission to paddle students.

Administrators at the Georgia School for Innovation and the Classics sent a letter home to parents to inform them of the corporal punishment policy being put in place, according to WRDW in Augusta. However, parents still have to sign the form before their children are subject to paddling. The form says that the kindergarten-through-ninth grade students will be subject to a “three strike” policy, promising that the punishment won’t be administered until a student’s third offense.

Other guidelines within the policy say that a parent will be notified that the child is being paddled before the student is brought into an office with closed doors, where they will place their hands on their knees or on a piece of furniture and be subjected to “no more than three licks” of the wooden paddle.

The district’s superintendent, Jody Boulineau, told WRDW that a little over 100 forms have been returned, with nearly one-third of parents consenting to the policy. If consent isn’t given, parents must agree to the alternative of up to five days of suspension.

,,,,


third strike, only with parental consent, I can get with that, with some boundaries as to how hard those three licks are.




They had this up until the time i was in 6th grade in public schools.
It was mostly students of color that it was applied to.



was there parental consent involved? or was it across the board?




I was a kid at the time. I don't know about that.


okay. I remember a paddle in our elementary school, but I dont think it was a consent thing, other than parents consenting by enrollment and agreeing to procedures and regulations.

I think this is an interesting compromise. Those who dont want it can keep their kids out of it and those who believe in it can be a part.