Part of our citizens are believing whatever the news reports. Understand the news media knows better. They are knowingly leading our nation down the liberal, socialist path. Media owners and upper management, Washington and Big time money fought the President, not because they are dumb but because they have a world government and world financial goal. They want to eliminate the idea of national government and financial control and trade it for a world endeavor. This is a plan they will neveer admit to but one can see the direction of the last 15 years undermining national pride and patriotism.

During the early spring there was a big meeting at Davos, Switzerland. Most of the world leaders and financiers were present and ALL of them condemned the idea of nationalism except for President Trump. Many American's aren't really aware of how big this is and think it's only liberal democrat's and the media. I maintain the last three administrations skillfully undermined our nation and were planning on Hillary continuing this direction. President Trump is a wrench in their machine and they are all furious and will go to any extent to stop him. THEY DON'T CARE WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THINK.

I'm watching CNBC's NBR financial news as I write this. Until the Canadians agreed with the Presidents new UnNAFTA (USMCA) deal the program was full of how bad this was for the American workers. Since midnight Monday (1, October 2018) the NAFTA story has disappeared completely.

It's been replaced with "Chinese weary of American Products" reports. When China finally comes around they'll only have the EU to push. When Europe comes around they'll have to really dig to find negative financial news to use against President Trump.

Can those who dislike the President so much, please convince us (who do support the President) that this is just circumstantial!

I watch a farm program called AgDay every morning (4:00am). Produced in combination of Purdue University and a local TV station (WNDU). Being retired I can stay up a touch late. I like watching this program because it doesn't give the slant that major networks give. There are two big stories that started the program this morning (Thursday, 4 October 2018):

1. Country wide, farmers are very happy with the new USMCA deal.
2. India has just asked the USA government to develop a similar trade agreement with them.

The world is realizing that the last three administrations gave the American house away and President Trump is not going to support these unprofitable trade agreements.

Was watching the evening news, last night (Wednesday, 3 October 2018), on PBS and Kim Jung Un has asked the USA government to finally sign a treaty ending the Korean war.

The economy is gaining steam, unemployment is down and a few (not all) industries are giving pay increases. Citizens are feeling an increase in economic confidence.

So what happened to the Trump detractors who claimed the economy would collapse under a Trump administration?

The economy is great. The sky didn't fall. There are help wanted signs everywhere.

I'll be working overtime today in Trump land. Plenty of work for the American people.

AgDay news headline (4:00am Friday, 5 2018): Mexico seriously increases soybean imports. What isn't being publically announced is that much of these soybeans are being resold directly to China from Mexico.

Low and behold, China will get their soybeans one way or another. The media is still reporting China's raised tariff's on American goods (directly) their obtaining them indirectly from Mexico.

On the side lines are other nations buying farm goods from us including Germany. In the news they have to appear to be standing up to President Trump. By means of the back alley they are still buying our goods.

Watched PBS Business Report (last night) and the stock market slid a bit because there is concern that the Federal Reserve may raise interest rates because the economy is growing (in their opinion) a little to fast.

Anyone who spends time researching the "non-national syndicated news reports" are discovering the President is doing a good job.

Oh, one last AgDay story: At a stadium that uses AstroTurf they found a huge weed growing!

People will always need food and shelter. I wonder what Mexico is making on the deal.

Not sure but our products are being sold no matter what, making the Trump detractors upset. The network news isn't reporting on this, completely silent. Again, the public isn't getting the whole story. Collaboration between media moguls, high level politicians and big money financiers.

Sure seems to be Trump is disrupting the media moguls, high level politicians and big money financiers direction for the country.

Yess

Tarriffs on aluminium and steel fail to take a bite out of manufacturing which added 18,000 jobs in sept. CNN

I find it interesting that when I quote the news (time and dates) articles that are all positive the I hate Trump crowd seem to have disappeared. Accusations are all they seem to possess.

I've noticed CNN runs the "good" news in small print along the bottom of the screen while bashing Trump. Trump haters avoid talking about the good things happening but that won't stop the facts. If there is a red wave in Nov we can get our country back on track. This is very important for future generations. My oldest kids couldn't work a part time job for extra money when they were teenagers. Adults had those jobs trying to survive. It technically made the adults employed but it wasn't a living wage with benefits adults need. Healthcare can be solved with good jobs providing insurance for families.

Insurance: most have insurance but fewer and fewer can afford to access it. Maximum out of pocket (near $10,000) and 80/20 after out of pocket policies of insurance companies have made it a major expenditure. All brought to us by the un-Affordable Care Act.

Actually people leave the threads because the discussion veers off-topic because certain people seem to think every political discussion is about Trump or liberals vs. conservatives.

As for all that work mentioned? It's not around here. In fact, many of the jobs around here are part-time and minimum wage. I know because I spent the past 2 years looking for work. When I finally did get hired, it was low hours and low pay, which is how much of the corporate retail world works these days.

Of course, I got lucky because another employer found my resume online and went out of its way to recruit. That's the new job I started this past week. It has better everything, including a better career path. I even get legal representation as part of the benefits. But this type of work is a specialized field. I don't have a bunch of qualifications for it. I was recruited based on my life experience and goals, not education and credentials. Thus, it's a very atypical situation.

There are a lot of other people in this state who never be offered opportunities like this. They'll be stuck at jobs like the one I just left, scrambling to pick up more hours, grumbling about being overworked and underpaid despite union representation.

The economy won't be "good" until various state gov'ts stop finding themselves in fiscal crises. While we all may disagree on the causes, I think we all can agree that government spending on all levels -- federal, state, and municipal -- needs to be brought under control.

Personally, I don't see our country's economic problems as liberal OR conservative. I see it as the consequence of decades of poor (and short-sighted) policy decisions from both sides. A single President can't turn that around by himself.

It will take decades to undue that damage, which means the burden really falls upon Congress and the Legislatures. Anything one President does will likely be undone during the next administration, or by the next Congressional majority.

So to toot any President's horn -- be it Reagan, Clinton, or Trump -- when it comes to the economy is really quite pointless. We need a solution that lasts longer than 8 years, and preferably longer than 20 years, to be honest.

Bringing back manufacturing jobs is the solution. These types of jobs usually require overtime and pay pretty well. My ins has a $1600 deductible. I worked 46 1/2 hours and put in for 2 bonus hours. Should be a nice check. I was back at Lowe's spending money this weekend which helps the economy. We have lower paying jobs here also. I have a friend who has always chose that type of work. It's climate controlled and she doesn't work as hard as people in manufacturing. She doesn't have kids and has a working husband and lives in a mobile home.

It becomes conservative vs liberals because of views. I saw a poster talking about how crappy the economy is in his area. I was in orientation with a guy who lives in the same area he has listed on his profile. I also have a friend working at ga power making $130,000 and the Vogel plant is 30 minutes from the poster. I have a friend making over $70,000 at ampacet which is 30 minutes from him also and lived in the same town until 3 years ago. Where I live, I'm on a well, no trash pick up, etc. It boils down to some people want to find work and be productive and some want an excuse. I have a friend who was complaining he only worked 30 hours one week. I told him my son is on the hiring team and usually works over 50 hours every week. He quickly told me he doesn't like it there. So he is still living in that crappy apt and struggling to get by.

The more people work, the more they pay in taxes. More people spending and less on the govt.

I and every other contractor are booked solid. For months. Actually turning work away. No end in sight .
We are taking that money and buying new equipment..new tools. New hires ( when we can find them) and investing in what we do.

Everyone who WANTS to work..is

The economy has not been this good in a very very long time

I should be working today getting this place ready to rent but I'm tired. Hopefully this evening I will get some ambition. It will be nice to get moved and settled in. Then I can focus on volunteering for overtime. Christmas will be here soon.

Both of you are making generalizations based on a small sample size, i.e. your experience in your area. It's not like that everywhere.

Everyone tends to make judgements based on what they see and experience. So while in your part of the country things look to be great, in another area people will have the impression things aren't so great. Therefore, you must bring something less subjective to the discussion.

Besides, tell me in 5 years if the economy is still great. How about 10 years? We're due for another recession soon, one every 10 years or so. Tell me then how great things are. One cannot assume that what you're experiencing will be a long term trend.

The dollar is 15x weaker than it was in 1950. Manufacturing is gone. Our currency is backed by nothing. Our trade balance is a deficit. Our gov't debt is at an all-time high. Etc.

Let's try fixing those things if we truly want a healthy economy.

Unemployment is the lowest it's been since 1969. That was before I was born. I agree we are at the top of the economic cycle but that doesn't mean we shouldn't enjoy it. Smart people are paying down debt and getting ready for the downturn. Lots of people make money during a recession.

The only thing that ever seems to be certain as regards the economy, is that politicians OUT OF POWER will always say either that we are veering towards an economic cliff, or are failing to improve nearly as much as what we should be doing, in all areas. And they will often point to something as being BAD when they are out of power, and then say it's nothing to worry about when they are IN power again.

When the Republicans were OUT OF POWER, they insisted that the growing deficits that our progress away from the hole they'd left us in in 2007 were built on, were horribly bad and dangerous. Now that they are IN power, those same, now much more rapidly increasing deficits are suddenly either WONDERFUL, or to be completely ignored, or even to be praised as a brilliant "strategy."

Do I know for sure what the truth is? Of course not. That would require direct and accurate knowledge of the future.

One thing I do know well, is that using a personal experience with debt and the lack of it in one's personal life, isn't applicable to a large economy. For example, when you decide to "do without" something in your personal life, it's you both deciding and suffering. But when someone running a large scale economy of a nation decides that "we" have to "do without," it's usually someone OTHER than the people doing the deciding, who end up doing the suffering.