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Toodygirl5

Mon 11/05/18 01:36 PM

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IgorFrankensteen

Mon 11/05/18 02:21 PM

I didn't see where anyone mentioned a core, very important truth about abusers and abusive people of all kinds.

That is, that they don't commit abuse because they can't find a willing "normal" partner.

They abuse others, because THEY WANT TO ABUSE OTHERS.

No amount of available voluntary sexual partners, even free ones, will result in abusers choosing to behave well.
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MsLeeHM

Mon 11/05/18 03:22 PM


I didn't see where anyone mentioned a core, very important truth about abusers and abusive people of all kinds.

That is, that they don't commit abuse because they can't find a willing "normal" partner.

They abuse others, because THEY WANT TO ABUSE OTHERS.

No amount of available voluntary sexual partners, even free ones, will result in abusers choosing to behave well.

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Absolutely correct. It is about power and taking it away from some one, a bullies way to dominate others. They use sex to do it instead of their fists and words although some abuser use all of them.
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The Wrong Alice

Mon 11/05/18 04:54 PM

Hmm. Taking away power, and using it to dominate others.
Schizophrenia does not show up on an MRI scan. I've had 1.
That is a common lie told by so called healthcare professionals.
What they actually do is show you 2 scans. They say, that 1 is of a normal brain, and that the other is of a brain, with the terrible horrifying incurable brain disease, paranoid schizophrenia.
If you care to look closer at what they show you, it's clearly labelled. 1 is of a normal brain, and the other is of brain on anti psychotic medication.

As for your brother being unable to do some things without his medication, it was you who said that all shrinks don't just use pills on everybody, and said how wonderful they are at helping people come off them.

Medication can be useful for a fairly short period of time, around 6 weeks, to help psychosis, which is real and transient. Much like a bandage or a plaster. What would happen if you left a bandage on forever? It would no longer help, and would in fact hinder, and prevent the wound from ever healing.

You can't actually admit any of this, or you would lose your job. But the fact is, it's true.

Wolves in sheep clothes
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MsLeeHM

Mon 11/05/18 07:17 PM

This topic is about sexual abuse. It is not about paranoid schizophrenia.

Therapy for sexual abuse issues can be extremely helpful. In survivors who experience severe anxiety or depression medication can help so that the person can do the therapy and learn the skills needed to have a successful life.

Schizophrenia of any kind is not a result of sexual abuse.

Do not mix the two. The long term effects of traumas such as sexual abuse are treatable.

Schizophrenia is a disorder of the mind. No amount of talk therapy will change that. Medication is the only thing that works. I have seen the difference in people when they are on their meds and the effect when they are not.

That is not to say a person with schizophrenia does not also suffer if they were sexually abused. All it means is that they have two different problems that require different treatments.
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The Wrong Alice

Tue 11/06/18 02:08 AM

Your wrong. And you've proved my point nurse ratchet. Not only that you've contradicted yourself on a number of occasions. I can see rationale and truthful discussion on the topic is beneath you. But hey, you probably get kick backs from the drug companies like every1 else. And you wouldn't want that effigy to be of you, should you break the rules of cauldron club. You are trying to delude people, and you do it for a living. That is sick, and twisted
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MsLeeHM

Tue 11/06/18 05:29 AM


Your wrong. And you've proved my point nurse ratchet. Not only that you've contradicted yourself on a number of occasions. I can see rationale and truthful discussion on the topic is beneath you. But hey, you probably get kick backs from the drug companies like every1 else. And you wouldn't want that effigy to be of you, should you break the rules of cauldron club. You are trying to delude people, and you do it for a living. That is sick, and twisted


R2 When a person starts to attack the person I stress of the comments they resort to bulling behaviours and logical fallacies. They do this because they have no real comments to make only their opinion.

You attacked me, the person You made assumptions that have no basis in fact. The fact is that I am not now nor have I ever been a nurse. I have also never been a doctor or psychiatrist or ever even worked in a hospital.

I do have over 30 yrs experience working as a counselor with all kinds of abuse survivors and have seen them all make huge changes in their lives. Some had been misdiagnosed and had been on medications for up to 17 years but had never worked on their abuse issues until they came to me and dealt with the abuse. Only one of my clients made no changes and that was because of a dual diagnosis that hindeeed her progress using talk therapy.

I get no kickbacks from drug companies because I don’t prescribe medications. I don’t have a licence to do that.

R2 I have nothing more to say to you. You do prove the point that some people refuse to be helped. Medications can help people like you IF they take them.

Good luck dealing with your problems.

To those of you who were abused: Thank you to those of you who shared your success stories. Talking does hel. Don’t let R2’s comments discourage you. He has mixed two different problems and believes they can’t be treated. He is wrong. Even severe cases of sexual abuse can be treated and your lives can improve. If your anxieties or depression is severe medication can help but most often this is temporary.

Please look for a therapist who knows how to deal with sexual abuse issues. If you are ready to go the work therapy can really help. It is hard work. It requires remembering and dealing with the past abuses. But remember this: You are no longer that small child living through a nightmare that no child should ever experience. You are now an adult dealing with your memories. Not a child dealing with the reality oh your abuses with no support. But you did survive. You are here today, still alive and wanting something better for your life. You are a SURVIVOR. While therapy is hard work it isn’t nearly as bad as living the abuse and you now have support.
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The Wrong Alice

Tue 11/06/18 11:47 AM

M.d.m.a. more commonly known as ecstasy, has been proven to help unlock repressed memories and emotions. It's perhaps because it often increases empathy. It was used during the war to help soldiers overcome shellshock
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janglesbo

Tue 11/06/18 12:10 PM

Sex.