The simplest way I can put it is that the hood came with a MANDATE to be a bigot, whereas the cap does not.
I dont think all Trump supporters are the same. I take people as they present themselves. I think Americans in general hold alot of bigotry towards minorities (not just racial), so thats another element that makes me hesitant to compare that dumb cap with that offensive hood.
I have been on the receiving end of assumptions in the past. For instance, the bigotry against my minority(african americans) has been argued to come from this assumption of us being violent based on MOST of those convicted of (keeping in mind conviction is not always proof of actual guilt and lack of arrest and conviction is not proof of actual innocence) are African American, but most African Americans are not violent criminals.
I think I feel the same about Trump supporters and that hat, when it comes to the very hateful bigot type of prejudice(there are levels, in my opinion, to the bigotry in this country). That is to say, I think the majority of hateful bigots will wear that hat and support Trump. But I dont think the majority of Trump supporters are hateful bigots, just undeducated and easily led by fear tactics. Though, Im not sure if recipients of bigotry care if its motivated by actual hatred or 'merely' ignorance.
Fear tactics? Who is doesn't use fear tactics???
Americans were told by leftist, many of them in media, that Trump would start a nuclear war if he became president.
Americans were told by leftist "economist", and Professor of Economics at the Graduate Center of the City University, Paul Krugman the stock market and the economy would collapse if Trump was elected before, on and after election night.
Fear mongering is use by extremist on the right too, it was done when Obama was in the Oval Office.
But there are far more fear mongering extremists on the left, especially in the media.
Trump is the result of ignorance though, the ignorance of the Democrat party and the DNC to not give ALL Americans a better choice.
I dont think alot of people dislike or continue to dislike Trump so much out of those fear tactics though. How many democrats are running around screaming about Trumps finger on the button? not as many as are screaming 'build the wall'.
How many people are chanting 'protect our stocks'? Not as many as are chanting 'build the wall'
yes, fear tactics are an overused tactic regardless of politics, but some seem more susceptible to the buy in than others.
They aren't using those fear tactics anymore because they didn't come fruition because they weren't true in the first place. The fear mongering by the left has to keep changing....they quit using the picture of children "in cages" when it was exposed those picture were taken when Obama was in office. You keep talking about people chanting "build the wall" as though there is NO evidence that barriers work...but the barrier between San Diego and Mexico reduce illegal crossings by 90%. Numbers supporting a stance on ANY issue isn't using fear tactics, it's using facts.
And you insinuation that Trump voters were motivated 'merely' by ignorance is noting less than arrogant, no matter how you preface such a statement. People like me are far from ignorant. Did ignorant people vote for Trump? Absolutely. Did ignorant people vote for Hillary just because she was a woman or just because she was a Democrat? Absolutely.
With no link, Im not sure about what data you are providing.
Are you talking about the barrier that went up in the 90s, because there was NO barrier there?
Most 'build the wall' trumpeters dont even know the geography at the border. That it is not all just a 'walk' over, that there are. Here are some numbers.
The border has 1933 miles. There is currently 700 miles of fencing and roughly the other 1200 or so miles of it is on the Rio Grande River, which Mexico and US have a treaty to not build on so as to not disrupt the flow of the River.
Only 1/3 of the land is federally owned, the rest is owned by states or individuals.
And again, illegal crossings are ALREADY at a historic low.
so yeah, numbers are not about fear tactics, unless people use them that way.
what is the saying? Figures dont lie, but liars figure.
A wall may not be terrible, it just isnt urgently needed and may not bring results that correlate to the costs.
And for clarity sake,
I did use the word 'majority' and not 'all' regarding ignorance or bigotry in the Trump camp.
Yes illegal crossing are down but that is NO EXCUSE to not take further action to slow illegal crossings. It makes no sense to not try to continue decreasing illegal crossings. That would be like thinking if your residence was broken into 10 times in 2017 and 5 times in 2018 that there is no need to take any further action to prevent break ins since the number decreased.
Democrats keep talking about a wall being old technology and that is true. The wheel is ancient technology too, and just like the wheel a wall is STILL effective. Drones are new technology, and I think they should be used, but drones do NOTHING to STOP illegal crossings, they only detect illegal crossings. Walls or barriers will NEVER completely stop ALL illegal crossing just like door locks will NEVER prevent illegal entry but that doesn't mean either shouldn't be used. And neither of those inanimate objects are immoral to use.
The only people talking about a continuous barrier now are Democrats....they need to update their rhetoric. SMH
You didn't "use the word 'majority' and not 'all' regarding ignorance or bigotry in the Trump camp".....you also didn't use the word SOME or MINORITY. If you want to be specific then you shouldn't make a general statements about a large group of people....in this case about 61 million people.
Edited by
Smartazzjohn
on Tue 01/29/19 01:24 PM