LOL, loving it.

AI as in artificial intelligence is a pipe dream of many that don't quite understand how computer intelligence actually works.

True AI may not be under human control.

How does one classify AI that is under human control?
Is it actually AI?

If we were to send an advanced computer interface to a destination, it would be restricted to the mission parameters.
What we think of AI is a preset list of parameters that a computer follows as a prime directive.
Anything that happens outside those presets will be beyond the ability of the AI.
Thus, it is not a true artificial intelligence.

Our ability to anticipate conditions a program might encounter is impressive.
It may seem like that program has artificial intelligence but it really doesn't.

To send a program to the Moon to act according to a programed response is programming not AI.
AI is to send that program to the Moon and that program decides to act or not act according to its own motivations.

So, the first thing we would need to do is invent and construct an actual AI program. At which point we would need to convince that AI program to actually do what we want.
Then, if we did convince it to do what we want it to do, send it to the destination and convince it that our motives are the same as its motives.
See where I'm going?

People think of AI as something but the reality of AI is something else.
What we want is an advanced program that does what we program it to do.
That, is NOT AI.

AI is Artificial Intelligence.
Think about that for a sec.
Artificial and Intelligence.
One of the biggest threats about artificial intelligence is the fact that once it gains intelligence if might not have the same priorities humans have.

So, as far as this convo is concerned, AI is out.
However, advanced robotics is in.
Remotely controlled biotics.
Yeah, I can see that.
We have experience with that in the Mars rovers.

So, ya send a bunch of 'packages' to the Moon.
Ya send some advanced robotics to assemble those packages.
The robotics assemble all they are able to assemble.
We send people to finish the construction.

Point.
The materials are sent beforehand that allows something to be made that supports human life.

The sad reality is we are not SENDING anything.
We are not thinking ahead.
We are so damned concerned with money and the bottom line right now we are cheating our children's future hope.
We should be doing everything in our power to accommodate the future of our children yet we don't because it doesn't make financial sense.
You kill you grandchildren and don't realize it.
But hey, who the hell is this weird truck mechanic that is dying?

I am researching who is involved currently with these advanced robotics. A few months back there was a video that involved Elon Musk, the CEO's of mega site chats, and a few investors speaking about what silicon valley is currently working pertaining to the quantum technologies. But this video was more about AI's taking over full control and becoming a kind of think tank on its own. These leaders at the forefront of technology are convinced they have created a machine that will figure out it can control itself and be self reliant.




Anyways, this seems to be a good read. It's rather recent and you have most likely already mentioned this.

https://www.nap.edu/read/18801/chapter/6

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Technical Analysis and Affordability Assessment of Human Exploration Pathways

4.1 INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW

4.2 TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS
4.2.1 Possible Destinations in the Context of Foreseeable Technology
4.2.2 Design Reference Missions
4.2.2.1 The Space Launch System and the Design Reference Missions
4.2.2.2 Asteroid Redirect Mission
4.2.2.3 Earth-Moon L2
4.2.2.4 Lunar Surface Sortie
4.2.2.5 Lunar Surface Outpost
4.2.2.6 Asteroid in Native Orbit
4.2.2.7 Mars Moons
4.2.2.8 Mars Surface
4.2.3 Potential Pathways
4.2.4 Drivers and Requirements of Key Mission Element Groups
4.2.4.1 Launch
4.2.4.2 In-Space Transportation
4.2.4.3 Habitation
4.2.4.4 Entry, Descent, Landing, and Ascent
4.2.4.5 Destination Systems
4.2.5 Contribution of Key Mission Elements to the Pathways
4.2.6 Challenges in Developing Key Capabilities
4.2.6.1 High-Priority Capabilities
4.2.6.1.1 Mars EDL
4.2.6.1.2 Radiation Safety
4.2.6.1.3 In-Space Propulsion and Power
4.2.6.1.3.2 In-Space Cryogenic Propulsion
4.2.6.1.3.3 Nuclear Electric Propulsion
4.2.6.1.3.4 Nuclear Thermal Propulsion
4.2.6.1.3.5 Solar Electric Propulsion
4.2.6.1.4 Heavy-lift Launch Vehicles
4.2.6.1.4.1 Space Launch System
4.2.6.1.4.2 Falcon Heavy
4.2.6.1.5 Planetary Ascent Propulsion
4.2.6.1.6 Environmental Control and Life Support System
4.2.6.1.7 Habitats
4.2.6.1.8 Extravehicular Activity Suits
4.2.6.1.9 Crew Health
4.2.6.1.10 In Situ Resource Utilization (Mars Atmosphere)
4.2.6.2 Additional Capabilities
4.2.6.3 Summary of Challenges in Developing High-Priority Capabilities
4.2.7 Affordability
4.2.7.1 Potential Budget Available to Human Spaceflight Beyond LEO

4.3 TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS
4.3.1 NASA Technology Programs
4.3.2 Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate
4.3.2.1 Exploration System Development
4.3.2.2 Exploration Research and Development
4.3.2.3 Commercial Spaceflight
4.3.2.4 Space Technology Mission Directorate
4.3.2.5 NASA Infrastructure
4.3.3 Commercial Programs
4.3.4 Department of Defense
4.3.5 International Activities
4.3.6 Robotic Systems
4.3.6.1 Robotic Science and Exploration
4.3.6.2 A Game Changing Vision of Robotics

4.4 KEY RESULTS FROM THE PANEL’S TECHNICAL ANALYSIS AND AFFORDABILITY ASSESSMENT






Would appear there is sort of a game plan in place. Finances seem to be the biggest obstacle. And the time frame of their schedule is maybe a couple of lifetimes away. They must be hoping for some billionaire to screw his family over and donate their inheritances to NASA!!

Nice Resource!
I have never looked at The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine before?
Interesting resource, very interesting.
Thanx!

While it is a nice resource for published materials, I notice there is no actual interactive chat with anyone?
However, I might be attempting to contact some of the authors of the papers that are published.
I've done that a few times in the past and while some get no response, I have talked real-time with a few scientists.

There's a tremendous amount of published material on many subjects at the source.
Its not the same as the cutting edge real-time ideas but it does establish an understanding according to the published view.

Thanx again!

Cool, you will see things that catch your eyes from the many areas it chooses to discuss. You are able to get the think tank approach, the mathematics, the cost, all probabilities. I am always clicking when I am in search. Just trying to catch what the webpage looks like. I've found a few of these off/insider sites that discuss similar thoughts.

Definitely Enjoy!!


I'll drop more addy's when I remember them.