Yahoo news about as reliable as fb

Having a wall does not mean "keep out", it means "Use the Door!"

In my case, being English it was the other way around. I have never heard of him until shortly before the election when he became President. I didn't think he was great because I liked him; I liked him because I thought he did the right things. What I saw him do and what I heard him say is the basis for my opinions of him. Same for Trump ugh! How can any women have any time at all for that dingbat I will never understand.

When Obama came to visit England he was welcomed with cheering crowds. When Trump came there was pressure to stop the visit but that didn't work and when he arrived he was greeted with boos, not cheers. That's how most in the UK see American politics.

Reading the quotes helpfully posted by Charles makes a lot of sense to an Englishman.

Obama was a great orator....but that was about it. He took too much shitt from other countries and appeared before all the world weak. Trump at least is not weak. Actually no other President in history looked as much a weakling as Obama.

Obama's One Omission cost Europe heavy.
When the Syrian crisis began 2011-12; America had a great opportunity to act. USA worked covertly and feebly while Syrian citizens were chemical bombed by Assad (whose government belonged to the minority Muslim sect, Shia). Obama drew the red line on chemical weapons. Putin sent his MIGs.

Emboldened by Russian support, Assad blew through his cities. European Union (Greece first) was constrained to open the doors to Syrian refugees.
What followed is well known. Refugees from few more countries.

By the time US sent air cover, as a counter to Russian air presence; it was all over.

--xx--
If Obama had acted, he would have championed the Arab Spring movement.
Maybe he was wrongly advised and the experts thought that Syria was another Afghanistan. It's like saying Turkey is Saudi Arabia.

--xx--

Or may be it was the Nobel Peace Prize ...

He was the POTUS at the time we avoided a depression. ID say that was quite a bit. What was seen as 'weakness' was merely humility. But of course, that is a subjective standard. Many who saw that as 'weak' applaud Trump for his coziness with leaders of Russia and North Korea.

I feel Obama did not get (nor seek, honestly) nearly as much credit as he deserved, to be quite honest. I feel like if someone who looked and had the 'financial status' of Trump would have done the same things, people would not STOP singing his praises. And he surely would pretty much demand they should ... to be quite honest.


Was he perfect, no. no one is or will be. But its a case, in my opinion, where with some candidates, people will say, 'he walked on water, BUT his feet got wet, so he wasnt that great" And others will say, "Oh my gosh, did you know he could swim so well?"

Just depends on biases that frame the perceptions.

Pick your poison. The same story can be found here,

http://hedgeaccordingly.com/congress-prepares-for-a-battle-over-secret-grand-jury-evidence-in-russia-inquiry-aposi-intend-to-fightapos-2/

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/435745-democrats-face-dilemma-after-mueller-probe-ends

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/democrats-face-dilemma-impeachment-n978066


Whining about which news service carried a story is kinda useless. When a story goes out over the wire several news sources may pick it up. Saying that Yahoo is about as reliable as FB, well, that just isn't true. There is worse. You could get your news from places like Breitbart. Breitbart is so far right that they leave out most of a story and only tell you what they want you to know. Kinda like a government controlled news service as you would find in Russia or North Korea.

So far right that most of the story is partially made up or an outright lie. Many times I have read stories posted by Breitbart. Then go find that same story on Yahoo or ABC, CBS, The Hill, and others. And find out facts that were left out by Breitbart. Or fabrications added to the story by Breitbart. So, yeah, there are worse.

Trump promises incredible health care, again

"President Trump is laying the groundwork to run for reelection on reforming health care, a strategy that appears to rely on voters forgetting that he was elected in 2016 on the same promise".

http://news.yahoo.com/trump-health-care-promise-2020-election-191825080.html

6 promises Trump has made about health care

"No one will lose coverage. There will be insurance for everybody. Healthcare will be a “lot less expensive” for everyone — the government, consumers, providers.

President Donald Trump and his advisers have been talking about an Obamacare repeal and replacement plan and making blanket statements about what it would entail, for nearly two years. In his recent speech to Congress, Trump cast his presidency as one of the promises made and promises kept. And he and his aides have made plenty of promises about healthcare".

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-obamacare-promises-236021

Republican Health Care Lying Syndrome

"Here are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and Republican claims about health care.

"O.K., it’s not news that politicians make misleading claims, some more than others. According to a running tally kept by Daniel Dale of The Toronto Star, as of Monday morning, Donald Trump had said 4,682 false things as president".But G.O.P. health care claims are special, in several ways. First, they’re outright, clearly intentional lies — not dubious assertions or misstatements that could be attributed to ignorance or misunderstanding."

http://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/opinion/republicans-health-care.html

As Trump alienates allies at home and abroad, Pence's Asia trip highlights his competent diplomatic skills

"If President Donald Trump is worried about Mike Pence upstaging him in 2020, he has no one to blame but himself. As Trump rankles allies and foes alike with his support of Saudi Arabia, the vice president is proving himself to be a savvier — or at least more settled — diplomat on the world stage".

http://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-alienates-allies-home-abroad-pence-s-asia-trip-highlights-ncna939771

Trump’s Blasts Upend G-7, Alienating Oldest Allies


"WASHINGTON — Shortly before leaving the annual meeting of major world powers on Saturday, President Trump boasted that it had been “tremendously successful” and that on a scale of 0 to 10, “the relationship is a 10.”

Fewer than nine hours later, the relationship was plummeting toward a zero. With a petulant tweetstorm from Air Force One, Mr. Trump all but blew up the Group of 7 nations that the United States has led for more than four decades and essentially declared open political war on America’s closest neighbor".

http://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/world/g7-trump-russia.html


Donald Trump is alienating allies the US needs to confront China on trade, panel warns

"US President Donald Trump must join with the EU, Japan and other allies to form a united front against China, an advisory panel warned on Friday, adding that his aggressive trade actions against long-time US partners could undermine that effort".

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2150003/donald-trump-alienating-allies-us-needs-confront-china


Trump will never fill Obama's shoes. He will never be "The Man". And that is what eats at Trump and his followers.

Well Charles finally we do have something we can agree on and that is that Trump will never fill Obama's shoes.. and that's because Trump loves his country and OBAMA IS A TRAITOR. .

So far Obama beats Trump left and right. And that eats at Trump and his followers.

2 Years of Trump Vs. 2 Years of Obama: By the Numbers

"Halfway through his first term as Vladimir Putin’s Executive Assistant in Charge of U.S. Operations, Donald Trump claims he has accomplished more than any administration in history, including the highly successful Cash Money Records administration that took over for the ’99 and 2000s.

We wanted to see if this was true. So we sifted through all of the measurables from the first two years of both presidents in an attempt to quantify their presidencies".

http://www.theroot.com/2-years-of-trump-vs-2-years-of-obama-by-the-numbers-1832209709

This is why many of the right can't stop talking about him and keep trying to put him down. Trump will never be the man Obama was. He will never be the President Obama was and he will never reach the hights Obama did. Trump will leave office in 2020 with the stigma of being the most crooked president in US history. Trump will leave office with the worst record for foreign policy.

Trump will be looked upon as a lover of Russia and other communists countries. He will also be remembered as one of the most naive presidents ever. But the biggest thing Trump will be remembered for is all the lies he has told. He will never have the legacy that Obama has. No matter how much he tries to erase Obamas.

Speaking for myself I would have to say If anything eats at the right is that Obama isn't in Gitmo or hasn't been hung for treason..as far as you say Trump leaving office as the worst president..maybe by the left traitor loving side but as far as I see we know all of this communist crap like the Russian collusion BS was nothing more than a low IQ as usual, attempt to get Trump out of office...and as far as lies..Obama told his fair share of them as well..

The Trump movement is MASSIVE.and smart no matter how much the main stream media wants to down play his following..just take a look at his rallies..and after the Russian Collusion exoneration..expect them to get even bigger..So thanks to the Dems it looks like Trump will be looking at a second term Trump in 2020 # WINNING AGAIN

I am beginning to think that 'traitor' is another of those meaningless swear words that people like to throw about at those they don't like. Calling someone you don't like a 'traitor' does nothing to help in this thread. And as for quoting endless YouTube content, that is plain ridiculous if you're trying to make a sensible argument. And who or what is this mysterious thing called 'Q'? I've never heard of it or him or her, so such references are meaningless. Let's have some sensible quotes please.

Q is for Quacks that dive down rabbit holes for grandios pedophile stories and other far fetched conspiracy theories . A forum for white nationalist as well

You mean they throw around the word traitor ..like others throw around the word colluder..lol

I mean let's look at it this way if Trump was such a Russian Government Colluder..what is Russia doing in Venezuela with the Chinese?..I know they want to come over and be friends ...of course they do..

As for those who don't want to believe in the depth of pedophilia in our government and Hollywood..it's only because they haven't done the research I have..I've given the sources DO THE RESEARCH

Here I'll even make it easy for ya..just type in Hillary child trafficker..ya don't even need YouTube..just search it..DO IT..now what do ya got to say..NOTHING...the more you research the more ya learn...now what..

Now go LOOK into what the NYPD found on Anthony Weiner's lap top..go ahead..check it out ..

In simple terms the difference between Obama and Trump:

Obama believes and had an administration that believed the purpose of government was to help those who are unwilling or unable to help themselves. They did this through expanded social programs and attempts to play Robin Hood. Democrats want to significantly expand that concept if they can.

Trump and his administration believes that personal prosperity is the responsibility of the individual person. The governments function is to provide a strong economy and a level playing field for all so they can prosper from their own hard work. This was the way America was until somebody in government decided that government needed programs to end poverty and created the start of the current welfare state.

Ah, I see what you mean

These, in my opinion, are overstated misnomers. There is a big difference in helping whose 'unwilling' to help themselves and those 'unable' to help themself, firstly.

also the concept of 'personal prosperity' through 'individual' responsibility is not something that either party strongly truly supports, as shown by how few of them got to where they are through 'individual' responsiblity, but through systems and networks that like it or not were also set up to help those 'not willing or able' to work quite so HARD to do it 'themselves.'


The biggest non bias different in the party platforms were that one side wanted bigger government and the other smaller government. and through the founding up until today, those sides have changed parties AND names at least once. One side has been 'conservative' wanting the preferences the systems built in for THEM preserved on the backs of others. and the other side has been 'liberal' wanting preferences to be demolished at the sacrifice of others.

Both platforms involve a concept of giving and taking, but disagree on who should be doing either side of that equation.



to read more of the similarities and differnces,

http://democrats.org/about/party-platform/#preamble

http://prod-static-ngop-pbl.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf

Former Federal Prosecutor On Mueller: Never Took Me 400 Pages To Say 'Nothing's Wrong'

"Former federal prosecutor Chuck Rosenberg believes there’s likely plenty in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report that’s damaging — and possibly criminal — regarding President Donald Trump. “It’s never taken me 400 pages to say nothing happened,” he added, referring to the reported length of the Mueller report".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/former-federal-prosecutor-mueller-never-022736518.html

Donald Trump Is Taking Away Health Care from the Poor Just to Spite Barack Obama

"Fresh off his Republican Party's 941st embarrassing failure of an attempt to repeal the Affordable Care Act—this number is technically approximate, but spiritually accurate—Donald Trump has elected to wreck as much of it as he can without having to rely on Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan, the dueling twins of utter legislative ineptitude. On Thursday, the White House announced that it would end the payment of federal subsidies to health insurance companies that make insurance affordable for millions of low-income Americans. A press release bafflingly called the subsidies "bailouts," an absurd descriptor that previously earned the Washington Post's coveted Four Pinocchios rating".

http://www.gq.com/story/trump-ends-csr-payments

Trump's healthcare push takes a back seat

"President Trump is taking a step back from the healthcare battle he reignited.

The president tweeted Tuesday his party will vote on health care after the 2020 election, when Republicans hold the Senate and win back the House.

Just last week Mr. Trump said his party will be the party of healthcare in a move surprising even fellow Republicans, with the administration backing the full dismantling of Obamacare.

Democrats immediately pounced.

"It's the same old song they've been singing," Senator Chuck Schumer said, adding "Translation: They have no healthcare plan."

Republicans are not eager to go back to a topic that has vexed them for years.

http://www.wdtn.com/news/u-s-world/trump-s-healthcare-push-takes-a-back-seat/1895626296?apt_credirect=1

**********************************************************************************

Trump says he wants Obamacare killed. Like, right now. Then he says that no healthcare plan by the Republicans will be made until AFTER the 2020 election. "Translation" "I'm going to kill healthcare and leave millions with no coverage. And even though we have no plan, If you want another healthcare plan you better vote me back in". Even though we have no plan and no idea how to build one. And no inclination to start, Vote for me anyway. Never mind what I promised.

This is your Republican party.

Party planks have excellent wordsmithing so most politicians can "interpret" the plank to fit their situation and constituents. We can each read what we want into those platforms.

You seem to believe there are systems and networks that some can use to get ahead while others do not have access to those systems and networks. While that might be true in limited cases, everyone has an opportunity to excel if they wish to. You might not be able to get into a prestigious college but you can easily get into a community college or vocational school to start climbing the ladder of success. To come up with a number of reasons why you can't just says you don't want to do the work necessary. The roll of government should be to give each that opportunity and a level playing field; if you fail, that is your problem not the governments!

I agree that there are people that are unable to get ahead because of physical or mental handicaps but most of the people who are failures do not have those significant handicaps. They fail because they are unwilling to learn how to be successful and apply those lessons to their lives. You see them every day in society.

And you seem to assume that she talking about those that need a "handout" NOT A "handup" sir !
Most turn their lives around thanks to the good graces of goverment agencies that step in when all else is failling for them and become productive and succesful .
Yes you do have those that are a product of there situation and just stay down and live off of society .
But most of those have either mental or drug dependentcies holding them back and lack of health care doesnt help .
Not all is what it seems ! "You cant teach a starving man to fish until you've filled his belly first "