Topic: Cats - declawing
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catinidaho

Thu 05/09/19 09:32 PM

Indoor cats need to have a clawing post to scratch claws on.
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PlainJane

Sat 05/11/19 11:23 PM


"Declawing traditionally involves the amputation of the last bone of each toe. If performed on a human being, it would be like cutting off each finger at the last knuckle."
My cats are all quite good when it comes to nail clipping time. There may be moments of complaints but gentle persistence and positive reinforcement work wonders. Treats and praise are the rewards.
If you've thought about starting to clip your cats nails I highly recommend it. It is actually a lot easier than you think, and I find it cuts down on their need to claw immensely!
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Seamus

Sat 07/20/19 07:05 AM

I would never get my cats declared. They need their claws for almost everything and it seems remarkably cruel to deprive them of so much of their natural existence. Clip their claws lightly at the tip. It takes a little patience and care but it's worth it. Always have scratching posts (and furniture guards if you must) but if the furniture gets clawed I don't mind that much, life is better lived with cats. :wink:
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Totage

Sat 07/20/19 07:11 AM


I say no to declawing. It is painful to cats. they cut off the tip of the toes of the cat. I read an article from about 8 years ago from someone who was bothered that their cat was scratching their furniture, and getting that surgery (it is surgery). If your furniture is that important, maybe you should not have pets. Cats need to have their claws.


Declawing a cat is inhumane and actually makes them more aggressive. Think about it, you'd be pretty angry if some one cut off all your fingers too.

It's not difficult to train a cat to claw at a scratch post. There are caps you can put in the their nails as well. If you cut their nails proper, they won't destroy furniture. Take them to the vet or groomers and get their nails cut and capped and train them to claw at a designated scratch post.
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sat 07/20/19 08:04 AM

Geezzz... an American thing mostly as in many countries -including mine- it is forbidden by law. It is only allowed if there's a medical reason and I doubt that happens very often.

A cat will suffer psychologically from it, it will get arthritis, stiffness of joints and so on.

It is forbidden in all of the below countries, which means as you can see most of the world except for America ohwell and 3rd world countries, but often they don't have cats as a pet in those countries, nor the option/money to get such ridiculous surgery on pets. Insane.

England
Scotland
Wales
Italy
Austria
Switzerland
Norway
Sweden
Ireland
Denmark
Finland
Slovenia
Brazil
Australia
New Zealand
Serbia
Montenegro
Macedonia
Slovenia
France
Germany
Bosnia
Malta
Netherlands
Northern Ireland
Portugal
Belgium
Israel
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sat 07/20/19 08:32 AM


I had 5 cats and never declawed for all the reasons you listed.

Also it takes away their best tool, for all their activities.

Mine also never clawed the furniture or anything else because
I also always hat a scratch pole around for them to exercise
their claws ;-)

I've never had that problem either. It's also a matter of educating your cats when they first get to your place. A water pistol works a treat.
When my 2 cats were kittens still they climbed into everything, even my then partner's naked legs, hahahaha. I thought that was hilarious, he wasn't so amused, lol.

I have one who can be naughty and get on cupboards every now and then and once in a blue moon think he has the right to scratch his nails on the leg of a coffee table (always the same one).
But he quickly learns that is NOT done! Just verbally or again water.

Also a cat must have a place to sit in the window. They want to look out, esp male cats. So I cater for that too.
They're not allowed on the table, settee, cupboards, upstairs.
They do occasionally get on the settee if they're in at night, the sneaky b@st@rds, haha. But no scratching.
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Totage

Sat 07/20/19 08:56 AM



I had 5 cats and never declawed for all the reasons you listed.

Also it takes away their best tool, for all their activities.

Mine also never clawed the furniture or anything else because
I also always hat a scratch pole around for them to exercise
their claws ;-)

I've never had that problem either. It's also a matter of educating your cats when they first get to your place. A water pistol works a treat.
When my 2 cats were kittens still they climbed into everything, even my then partner's naked legs, hahahaha. I thought that was hilarious, he wasn't so amused, lol.

I have one who can be naughty and get on cupboards every now and then and once in a blue moon think he has the right to scratch his nails on the leg of a coffee table (always the same one).
But he quickly learns that is NOT done! Just verbally or again water.

Also a cat must have a place to sit in the window. They want to look out, esp male cats. So I cater for that too.
They're not allowed on the table, settee, cupboards, upstairs.
They do occasionally get on the settee if they're in at night, the sneaky b@st@rds, haha. But no scratching.


lol, water never worked as a deterrent for my cats. I taught them all early to love the water so that bath time wouldn't be difficult. Spray them with water, they love that and think it's play time. lol

Cats are smart and when you take the time to understand them, setting boundaries and what not is not so bad.
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sun 07/21/19 02:29 AM




I had 5 cats and never declawed for all the reasons you listed.

Also it takes away their best tool, for all their activities.

Mine also never clawed the furniture or anything else because
I also always hat a scratch pole around for them to exercise
their claws ;-)

I've never had that problem either. It's also a matter of educating your cats when they first get to your place. A water pistol works a treat.
When my 2 cats were kittens still they climbed into everything, even my then partner's naked legs, hahahaha. I thought that was hilarious, he wasn't so amused, lol.

I have one who can be naughty and get on cupboards every now and then and once in a blue moon think he has the right to scratch his nails on the leg of a coffee table (always the same one).
But he quickly learns that is NOT done! Just verbally or again water.

Also a cat must have a place to sit in the window. They want to look out, esp male cats. So I cater for that too.
They're not allowed on the table, settee, cupboards, upstairs.
They do occasionally get on the settee if they're in at night, the sneaky b@st@rds, haha. But no scratching.


lol, water never worked as a deterrent for my cats. I taught them all early to love the water so that bath time wouldn't be difficult. Spray them with water, they love that and think it's play time. lol

Cats are smart and when you take the time to understand them, setting boundaries and what not is not so bad.

Bathe a cat????????? noway surprised
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Darren

Sun 07/21/19 02:55 PM



"Declawing traditionally involves the amputation of the last bone of each toe. If performed on a human being, it would be like cutting off each finger at the last knuckle."
My cats are all quite good when it comes to nail clipping time. There may be moments of complaints but gentle persistence and positive reinforcement work wonders. Treats and praise are the rewards.
If you've thought about starting to clip your cats nails I highly recommend it. It is actually a lot easier than you think, and I find it cuts down on their need to claw immensely!

Look on the bright side at least then you don't need to Gert your nails done :)

I really don't like cats but wtf you get a cat and know its got claws so teach it not t scratch your things get it a post or some wood or anything, if you people are that bothered about making sure there furniture stays perfect don't have pets or kids problem solve.
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Totage

Sun 07/21/19 03:11 PM





I had 5 cats and never declawed for all the reasons you listed.

Also it takes away their best tool, for all their activities.

Mine also never clawed the furniture or anything else because
I also always hat a scratch pole around for them to exercise
their claws ;-)

I've never had that problem either. It's also a matter of educating your cats when they first get to your place. A water pistol works a treat.
When my 2 cats were kittens still they climbed into everything, even my then partner's naked legs, hahahaha. I thought that was hilarious, he wasn't so amused, lol.

I have one who can be naughty and get on cupboards every now and then and once in a blue moon think he has the right to scratch his nails on the leg of a coffee table (always the same one).
But he quickly learns that is NOT done! Just verbally or again water.

Also a cat must have a place to sit in the window. They want to look out, esp male cats. So I cater for that too.
They're not allowed on the table, settee, cupboards, upstairs.
They do occasionally get on the settee if they're in at night, the sneaky b@st@rds, haha. But no scratching.


lol, water never worked as a deterrent for my cats. I taught them all early to love the water so that bath time wouldn't be difficult. Spray them with water, they love that and think it's play time. lol

Cats are smart and when you take the time to understand them, setting boundaries and what not is not so bad.

Bathe a cat????????? noway surprised



Cats actually don't mind water too much. If you notice most cats have webbed paws, that's for swimming. The misconception that cats hate water stems from their fur being hollow, so when they get wet it weighs them down and causes discomfort.
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catinidaho

Sun 07/21/19 05:24 PM

The cats I have owned lived indoors and outdoor. I never trimmed nails because there were a lot of trees. I had one cat who was a really good tree climber. She got up and down with no problem and loved it.
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Roger

Sun 07/21/19 05:47 PM

Never remove a kitty kats claws, it hurts.
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catinidaho

Sun 07/21/19 07:56 PM

I agree, Roger.
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anemail

Sun 07/21/19 09:16 PM

On the subject of cats and claws, I want to suggest a very simple and inexpensive cat scratch post: a vertical southern pine 2x4 a few feet in length. It will last years.
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catinidaho

Sun 07/21/19 09:21 PM

Thanks anemail.
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Mon 07/22/19 08:21 AM






I had 5 cats and never declawed for all the reasons you listed.

Also it takes away their best tool, for all their activities.

Mine also never clawed the furniture or anything else because
I also always hat a scratch pole around for them to exercise
their claws ;-)

I've never had that problem either. It's also a matter of educating your cats when they first get to your place. A water pistol works a treat.
When my 2 cats were kittens still they climbed into everything, even my then partner's naked legs, hahahaha. I thought that was hilarious, he wasn't so amused, lol.

I have one who can be naughty and get on cupboards every now and then and once in a blue moon think he has the right to scratch his nails on the leg of a coffee table (always the same one).
But he quickly learns that is NOT done! Just verbally or again water.

Also a cat must have a place to sit in the window. They want to look out, esp male cats. So I cater for that too.
They're not allowed on the table, settee, cupboards, upstairs.
They do occasionally get on the settee if they're in at night, the sneaky b@st@rds, haha. But no scratching.


lol, water never worked as a deterrent for my cats. I taught them all early to love the water so that bath time wouldn't be difficult. Spray them with water, they love that and think it's play time. lol

Cats are smart and when you take the time to understand them, setting boundaries and what not is not so bad.

Bathe a cat????????? noway surprised



Cats actually don't mind water too much. If you notice most cats have webbed paws, that's for swimming. The misconception that cats hate water stems from their fur being hollow, so when they get wet it weighs them down and causes discomfort.

I've never come across any cat that did not dislike water, whether my cat or neighbourhood cat. Spraying water has them running, and you don't even have to actually hit them.
I know cat / felines can swim if need be. Webbed feet? Never seen that either, a wee bit, like we have webbed fingers, a tiny bit.
I don't doubt you can make a cat get used to water, but why bother?
Cats don't need bathing at all. They keep themselves perfectly clean, groom really well, and they don't end up smelling or rolling in yukkie things like many dogs can do.
Cats are so fussy about their smell and cleanliness that they even wash/bathe themselves after you've petted them to get rid of both your smell and any dirt or fat etc. that came from you.
And they wash themselves / their nose & mouth after dinner :)
In that sense they're probably cleaner than many humans, haha.
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mysticalview21

Thu 08/08/19 06:46 AM

at one time I thought declawing was good for inside cats ... but not now cats always seem to get out ...an they need their claws for protection ...
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Susan

Sat 08/10/19 10:10 AM

I believe it is a horribly damaging procedure, and should be banned.

It causes great pain for the cat, all of the time. It is not like clipping their claws.

Plus, it takes away so many of the cat's abilities. I believe it is barbaric, selfish of the owner's, and very cruel on so many levels.
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catinidaho

Sat 08/10/19 04:01 PM

I did have to give a bath to one cat, kitten really, about three months old. This was a long time ago and he was outside and found and open container of used motor oil next to the garage. It was from a car oil change. I have no idea why he wanted to go in there because oil smells bad. There was no way he could have cleaned that off himself.
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Susan

Sat 08/10/19 07:45 PM

I had my cat for 19yrs. I think I only had to bathe her twice in her life.

She kept herself perfectly clean.
She did not like being bathed!
You have to be careful to try and dry your cat with a towel after you bathe them, as much as possible.
Or they get really, cold.

My cat loved when I dried her off if she came in from being out in the rain.