President Trump's rhetoric not to blame for mass shootings: Mick Mulvaney

"cting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney said that no politician, including President Donald Trump, was to blame for shootings like those in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, which left at least 29 people dead this weekend.

As Democratic presidential candidates point the finger at the president's divisive rhetoric, Mulvaney said on ABC's "This Week" that the suspect who allegedly killed 20 people at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, appeared to have been motivated by beliefs he harbored before Trump became president.

"This was a sick person, the person in Dayton was a sick person," Mulvaney told ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl, during an interview Sunday. "No politician is to blame for that. The person who was responsible here are the people who pulled the trigger. We need to figure out how to kind of create less of those kinds of people as a society and not trying to figure out who gets blamed going into the next".

http://www.yahoo.com/gma/crazy-people-carry-shootings-not-able-guns-mulvaney-132405391--abc-news-topstories.html


Meanwhile, the House passed HR 8 in March. This bill establishes new background check requirements for firearm transfers between private parties and has had no action from the Senate. S894 was introduced in the Senate in April "To authorize dedicated domestic terrorism offices within the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation to analyze and monitor domestic terrorist activity and require the Federal Government to take steps to prevent domestic terrorism." It too sits in the senate with no action since April. Some, but not all states have passed "Red Flag" laws which allow a family member or police to petition a judge to remove guns from individuals who pose a threat to themselves or others. We have seen no action on this from Congress.


When it comes to Trump, the White House, the Republican Senate, and Fox News:

“I am concerned for the security of our great Nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within.” - Douglas MacArthur

“America won’t fall from an outside source, it will fall by its own creation.” -Abe Lincoln

Trump smirked at the idea of shooting migrants at rally three months before El Paso massacre

"Donald Trump laughed and joked after a supporter suggested shooting Mexican migrants at a rally in May 2019.

The clip of the interaction is once again spreading across social media, as the US reels from the El Paso massacre.

“When you have 15,000 people marching up, and you have hundreds and hundreds of [immigrants], and you have two or three border security people that are brave and great – and don’t forget we don’t let them and we can’t let them use weapons,” Mr Trump said, to an audience of thousands in Florida".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-shooting-migrants-video-rally-el-paso-a9038961.html

We ALL KNOW what provoked these shootings, folks. Vote in 2020. Vote like YOUR LIFE depends on it.

I refound this today. It goes back to 2017. But it's very relevant to what has happened with this last shooter.

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

"President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database".

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221?fbclid=IwAR2fmcn7WJjxer6S8lzEOxI6NX5uJGwEjRatXXNH2HW7OayaY1QjUYTmJVA

Trump didn't shoot all the people at Wal-mart. But he put a loaded gun in this mentally ill person hands. He revoked a law that was designed to keep AR15 or any other gun out of the hands of mentally ill people. And he did it out of spite for Obama. And look what it's getting us. No, Trump didn't pull the trigger. He just made it where someone else could. Trump is just as responsible for the death of these people as the actual shooter is. Trump calls himself a "stable genius". Stable geniuses don't revoke laws that are designed to save lives.

This one goes back a little way. It was right after Trump revoked the law that Obama put into place.

TEXAS CHURCH SHOOTING


"26 people were killed at First Baptist Church in rural Sutherland Springs, Texas, authorities said. The shooter fled and was pursued by a resident and police but was found dead after running his car off the road.

Law enforcement officials identified the alleged gunman as Devin Patrick Kelley, 26, of neighboring Comal County, Texas.

Kelley was court-martialed in 2012 on two charges of assaulting his spouse and their child, a U.S. Air Force spokeswoman confirmed. He was confined for a year, reduced in rank to airman basic E-1 and given a bad conduct discharge in 2014".

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/texas-church-shooting

This goes back a good way. Even into Obamas years. But at least he tried to take guns of all kinds out of the reach of the mentally ill. Trump came along and put the gun back into there hands.

I just joined here a couple days ago and just found this thread tonight. Even though you seem to bounce between the far left and the middle with what you post, I have found this interesting and informative. You seem to cover a wide range of what Trump does day today. I'll keep reading. I don't know how to post like you do. But I did find this.

Trump Boasts 'Amazing' Visit To Grieving Cities. They Don't Seem So Thrilled.


For President Donald Trump, his visits on Wednesday to El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio ― two cities struck by tragic mass shootings just days ago ― were what he described as “amazing.” For the swaths of frustrated protesters in both cities, however, the president’s visit was anything but.

Trump promised to unite the grieving, angry communities as he prepared to land in both cities. Instead, he spent the day posing for photo-ops in hospitals, attacking Democratic officials who have criticized him, and boasting about his rally crowd sizes ― something not unusual for the president.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-visit-el-paso-dayton-protests-022220233.html


Trump was told he wasn't wanted in el paso. But he went anyway.

Trump Comes to Console. El Paso Says No Thanks.


EL PASO — Earlier this year in his State of the Union address, President Trump described to the nation how the Texas border city of El Paso once had “extremely high rates of violent crime” and was considered “one of our nation’s most dangerous cities.” Then he turned it into the living argument for his border wall.

“With a powerful barrier in place,” he went on, “El Paso is one of the safest cities in our country. Simply put, walls work and walls save lives.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-trump-escobar.html

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